Topic: AMT fucks us over again - page 6. (Read 44973 times)

it makes me sick to see this asshole talk.

You do know that grabbing him would and force-ably taking him anywhere would be kidnapping right? Then when you kidnapped him and took him to the police department and you said the man is a fraudster they would be like, "Great you upstanding citizen, and where is your proof?" then you shrug your shoulders and let go of Zipkin. He says, "This man kidnapped me and brought me here." Then you are arrested.

You are not judge and jury, your word holds no sway over police, this is why there needs to be a specific unified front against this man.

You'll never guess what Mr. I-Don't-Mine replied with when asked if he mines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_UHaHjqW1c#t=2135

The 7-year-Penn-State-grad speaketh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbf2bQcByQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_UHaHjqW1c

Excerpt (paraphrased) from the interview (first link):

Q: Those are nice shoes you wearing. You pay with bitcoins?
A: I firmly believe that socks, such as, and matching socks, such as, wear, I mean worn by people goes hand in hand and what nut with feet, such as, and shoes. The alpaca sock company is the finest example as to where a person mining, using, bitcoins can buy such, such as, with bitcoins. Personally, that is me, I would have paid for shoes with bitcoins, but I had to use fiat money notes for these particular shoes I'm worn, wearing, so next time I use bitcoins, such as.

Q: What do you think about the regulations in Ukraine and the US?
A; The closer the miner is to the dam, the cheaper the electricity costs is...

Seriously, we need to see the video to see how close I came to paraphrasing it.  



Quote from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbf2bQcByQE#t=360 : "Companies from across the globe, all over the planet..."

I'm surprised he didn't go further with: Companies from across the globe, all over the planet, and from around the world are...

From the second link: "PayPal processes bitcoin transactions. Processing bitcoin transactions is a very profitable business."

https://blockchain.info/address/1P9NwQ1pUS8vpKRG8um6NyAXLcvv1dG9sg Originating address largest amount 125 BTC sent to the following address below with 71 sent to another wallet (more research will be done on that line too):

-https://blockchain.info/address/15QTGigFgnMpqcg5tQwBszQ94me98ZTVkr?filter=1 from here the amounts split into various but this wallet is HUGE. And obviously theirs as all the money went into it from the one they received with.

    https://blockchain.info/address/1YjsZMkfcH4gbxLwaJVZrfKybYPP1s9Pv
    https://blockchain.info/address/128NQWHuvDmkUHYnV9NRLWWN7R88VPGhk2
    https://blockchain.info/address/112tW5ctwM18oRRWHHixm5QUr1Ytw8Ky1s
    https://blockchain.info/address/1TCEZsNRhcmx4jBtZr7jt1yM59dJXZKoe
    https://blockchain.info/address/16xWKyjKGetjeNjZpc4k41VCGjwxsh2V47
    https://blockchain.info/address/1DkfRDLWddQFWCXFXWt3BcqWHKEk7hPfcv
    https://blockchain.info/address/17gTCVrEwrR5gTRaxHUu8ZW5KaqkYRez5h
    https://blockchain.info/address/16HZDDiB7u5Kjxq3vWNmwtjiG2hjCRAWVc
    https://blockchain.info/address/1LoViFYZ8GGuBbXJpGYtftBjsC14QMWnnY
    https://blockchain.info/address/1TCEZsNRhcmx4jBtZr7jt1yM59dJXZKoe
    https://blockchain.info/address/1TCEZsNRhcmx4jBtZr7jt1yM59dJXZKoe
    https://blockchain.info/address/1TCEZsNRhcmx4jBtZr7jt1yM59dJXZKoe
    https://blockchain.info/address/19EXG8XLVVsdZ96VayJCoEUM1Wy48MNm62

Various over 100-1000+ BTC moved around to those wallets

             https://blockchain.info/address/1TCEZsNRhcmx4jBtZr7jt1yM59dJXZKoe   200k+ BTC. Again really odd. Interesting trail to follow. How much of this is his? Those are alot of bitcoins if they are his.
    

I would grab him and turn him in the police for committing fraud against US

I'd politely shake his hand and let him know I'd see him in court where the real ass fucking will take place.

I'm not a thug, just want as much of my money back as I can get. Also I want to see his life ruined, but I can't do that without further harming myself so I do it by proxy via the law.

OK so does any one know if he owns any property cars ect ?

Lets go after what we can get out money back ?

We can place liens and go after everything if the lawyers are going to take for ever I will file a a small claims or our own class action lawsuit .

Or each of us does a class action lawsuit and go against his properties ect

cant seem to find anything owned in Philly by this guy

btw if you see this fag in person what would you guys do ?

Well since he has a habit of making misleading or outright false statements, I thought it would be worth noting I found the BTC addresses they are using. Thanks to my source who had this information FYI reliable and definitive origin point . Let's play FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!

https://blockchain.info/address/1P9NwQ1pUS8vpKRG8um6NyAXLcvv1dG9sg originating bitpay address used to pay AMT
https://blockchain.info/address/1N7pFYGpthLU2HcvaLR2FPreAYKSX4Ms6K This is where most of the bitcoins were going or are still more research needed
https://blockchain.info/address/1L1YrK5ij5WRDJzVvHmNu9igjjAsrAGP8M looking at the consistent amounts coming and the dates, I presume this is due to mining with the hardware. Again more investigation needed, but this seems like the likley case here considering he cant sell hardware by his own account, so mining with it is really the only option.
https://blockchain.info/address/13p4zncq6m3Ax7tvKhEG2k49hgwfS5g7ic (still working on this one)

The 3 addresses following have huge amounts moved into them. Obviously there will be more money being moved around. Least to get a feel for where the money goes and went. I want to thank my source for this, he/she can come forward if they want credit, but they should know they have my thanks for this information they provided.

Somehow I doubt his (ex)wife thinks he has a medium sized staff. Otherwise she might still be with him.....OHH you mean employees whoops lol. But yea well AMT_miners certainly acts like a personally affected individual. And again anything posted under AMT_Miners is authorized by him. It has to be. Otherwise it's just negligent management which he is liable for anyway as he has associated himself in the past with AMT_Miners as the account.  

Again this is assuming they are separated. Not even sure if that is happening.

Remember Opie, isn't josh posting those things it his medium sized staff. And more to the point it doesn't matter because his medium size staff say it was never legally stated that Josh Zipkin was even CEO. That claim was despite court documents filed calming he was President, CEO, and Sole Shareholder of AMT. Make you wonder what Jim Brown was working for.... maybe imaginary dinners.

How much do you want to bet this whole thing unravels for him when he goes to court and we quickly find out there is no Jim Brown. It would certainly explain why Jim Brown didn't show up and sign for the certified mail with return receipt that contained my refund request. It's ok though I managed to e-mail one to them at the address that they would often respond to me from, showing they were being selective about what e-mail that responded too.

Figured it would be worth noting that Josh is off his meds again and ranting like a lunatic. Went ape shit and started a thread seemingly just to smear me, I think his original intention was to issue a refund plan but it quickly degenerated into smearing me. If he could just FOCUS on the main topic it might have been ok. But we have heard these promises of refunds before. To date it seems like noone has gotten one.

Also he openly admitted he would be "slandering" me. I won't go into the differences between that and the other thing he meant. But at least he was open about his intentions. Clearly now there is even more cause to deal with him.

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Went through the Skype chat room and noticed some customer locations. Edited the redacted chat logs to replace locations with, um, . Old pdf has been deleted from my gpage, here is the new link to the pdf
https://sites.google.com/site/hpulhp/home/files/AMT-NDA%20Room%20chats%20to%20date%20names%20REDACTED%20.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1

Unless you report him as instructed, you likley will never see your money again. Fact is he "claims" he will be refunding us publicly. In the leaked chats he pretty much states in various ways why he won't. My suggestion? Contact the FTC or the FBI. Hell even the SEC as he has claimed we are all investors (except me because I speak out against him, which of course is a load of shit, I gave him money to build his company, and he ripped me off like he did the rest of us and gave us crap in return).

i wanna sell there crap 1.2 miner and the kit shit with 2 boards both of them together is about 1.5 ths name me a price and i'll sell it lmk .. its just too noisy to have in my place n creates too much heat .. 

My God-Father was Jewish, now buried in Crossville, TN, at Green Acres Cemetery. My grandparents were named Hirschberg. I was delivered by a Jewish doctor, Dr. Janti, in 1960, at Bethany Free Hospital, according to my birth certificate. Obviously, I hate Jews. 

Honestly, I am not into bashing any group, both have good/bad. Religions, races all of it has people who exploit the position they are in. I have met some salt of the earth genuinely good Jewish people, and Masons as well. By the same token I have met some unethical morally bankrupt ones in the same classification (Josh Zipkin being one on that list). His desire to have someone killed regardless just screams volumes of his character. I would like to see him suffer justice for his actions. Bottom line it's his actions and merits that matter. And he has actions that scream louder than his words. And we have it documented. That is what matters.

We want justice. The refunds, he has not detailed any kind of plan to refund us. Just talks dates out in the future. Like before. No new information as to what will happen. So why should we believe we are getting refunds? No reason. Not until there is a detailed plan and a public apology on their website as well as the details for the refund. That is what it will take to make this right. But seeing as he has the attitude of "fuck the MPP", doubt its coming without law enforcement to make it happen. 

The fact Spondoolies has been delivering makes the Jews look like Bitcoin saints however, this business of shipping people bricks isn't looking so good.