Topic: AMT miners - I Just ordered one from them - questions. (Read 6238 times)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-httpamtminerscom-is-a-scam-owned-by-joshua-zipkin-797048 Scam thread for anyone interested.

For the full run down and the various threads related to AMT you can look at this page. There is MORE than enough information here to make an informed decisions. And you can see what he thinks of his customers IN HIS OWN words from the chats that were leaked.

http://amtminers.wordpress.com

"amtminers.com Joshua Zipkin"
"Joshua Zipkin" "amtminers.com"

Context of how he deals his customers dirty.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2fnii5/amt_ceo_joshua_zipkins_naughty_and_nice_list/

Don't send your money to AMT unless you want to feel like a sheep, because you are going to get fleeced.

When they do send you hardware it's lacking basic hardware components like power supplies, as well as cabling, and anything resembling an instruction manual. They they lie to you and tell you a PSU is in the mail. I was told this two weeks ago by the CEO himself Josh Zipkin, of Jenkintown PA. I asked how it was sent and was told express. I've yet to receive my PSU. The leader of the company is incompetent, or so he actually told me via skype chat. He did spell incompetent wrong though, which either proves his point or somehow acts like a double negative. And a double negative is exactly what this company is. They get a F-- for proper delivery, the PSU was left out of my machine but they did include some very rusty sharp metal for some unknown reason, luckily I'm up to date on my tetanus booster.  They get an F-- for customer service, disclosing peoples personal information in forums and using intimidation tactics to try and silence their clients. They get an F-- for business management. The CEO is clueless and any technical experience seems to come from companies they contract with, so side step the middle man on this one and buy direct.

The OP was likley an AMT sock puppet account as Joshua Zipkin has been known to be vindictive. The press has even covered that in depth in the chat leaks he had with customers who were helping him.... he claims the chats are made up, however I was one of the people in those chats. The original leaker as well (not me) leaked some choice bits. But I can back those up and have with screenshots. Joshua Zipkin is in my opinion a very deceptive individual and I do not recommend trusting him with your money.

Bringing this back but I think its important people see whats going on for real with this company. As this thread is high up on the google search index it is important people know whats really going on with this company so they too don't get taken.

Here you can see EVERYTHING about what they have been doing.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-official-amt-thread-569769 Offical censored thread (post anything disparaging or complain unfavorably against them and it is gone in minutes if not seconds)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amt-users-thread-584891 A user complaint thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amt-fucks-us-over-again-569926 Another user complaint thread


Other threads pertaining to AMT scam accusations.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-amt-miners-the-biggest-scam-out-there-752430
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--741795
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amtminers-advanced-mining-technologytechnologies-are-scamming-thieves-569821
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beware-amtminers-722263
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/advanced-miners-scam-and-bad-equipment-571855
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/joshua-zipkin-steals-millions-with-his-amtadvanced-mining-technologies-scam-603878
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-amt-confirmed-amt-scammer-joshua-zipkin-call-to-action-759543

The fact is there is plenty of information to determine that they have done nothing but lie time and time again. There are chats to even confirm that (as seen above). I was one of the participants in those aforementioned chats and can provide more than just text on the very same chats (and have in some of the other threads) I was not the leaker however, but the leaker was not a customer who got fed up with the BS. I also got fed up and just decided to disclose my participation in there. Most of it with Joshua Zipkin stating that he was not packing miners, but unpacking them because he had played favorites (something that made the crytptocoinsnews.com rounds).


From this point forward AMT will not be discussing any company issues, giving any company updates, or providing any support on this forum. AMT recognizes some forum members have tried to and will continue to try to speak on behalf of AMT and we urge customers to simply not listen.  Because you publicly passed the support buck to yours truly. So yea you pretty much gave us and me specifically that right and in your little backtrack con pulled back and deleted your posts once you got called out on it.

We will be launching a support forum via our website which can be found at http://advancedminers.com/forums Looks like you took a page from the BFL playbook. They do a fantastic job of censoring their dissent there. And continue to rip people off to this day. I imagine you will be doing the same.

Our goal is to deliver miners to existing customers and get to the point where we issue full refunds to our clients despite receiving a miner or not. Any opinionated comments from any past clients or non-clientele, allegations, conspiracy theories, rumors, "investigative reports" are most likely fabricated exploits designed to defer new clients from purchasing from AMT. As there are several from this forum ,please realize these individuals do not and never have spoken on our behalf.
Let's break this down shall we? You have never had any intention of refunding anyone. You made that clear with your various refusals to do so to anyone who asked. That is simply a fact. These are not fabricated events and for saying that now the full truth will come out. Streisand effect in full effect. This will continue until you refund your "past clientelle" for ripping them off.

Our true clients that need support understand what we're talking about and we're happy to support them via our thread which we will populate with helpful tutorials and information everyday going forward.
Considering you have not done that for a vast majority of clients now, this is highly doubtful..

Your "true" clients were all the people in this forum who bought from you. That consititutes a true client...but you defrauded them and lied to them hence....and you have also exposed your vindictive nature which the news reports have already mentioned. You made various claims about support in the past.....since your consistent at being negligent I will let others judge that matter.

But since your SEO efforts to try to keep this forum out of the google searches has failed (if anything its at the top) I think its important to note also you continually are trying to work around giving those refunds. For one its proving to be more costly for avoiding that than it is to actually paying people back. If you did that (refund the difference) these issues would go away and you would actually regain your reputation. But since you have made the clear choice to avoid refunding past AND true and verified clients. Well good luck. I think the community sees you for what you are. And BCT does not need you. You need BCT. That much has ALWAYS been clear. Good luck staying in business. You and anyone who you partner with will feel the community boycotting you. You may have the false confidence to think otherwise. But you won't succeed in conning us. Even if we don't get our money back, you will maintain the stain of being an individual with a tarnished reputation over this whole mess. Either way we will keep on keeping on here as this is where most people come to find out about vendors in most cases.