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hero member
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July 21, 2014, 07:08:31 PM
I was not expecting a delivery this morning, since I gave up reading the forums and lost all hope, but DHL knocked on my door and handed me a box with a miner inside. I have no idea how much mining power it has since I was on my way out and there was no information either, but I will power it up when I get home and post my results. I originally placed 2 orders with AMT, 580 and 650. I received the Kits but those don't work anymore, the chips stopped working one by one. The kits of 2 x 1.2TH/s only yielded 540GH/s at first and then died off. I asked AMT for RMAs but never received an answer in the past 2 months. So when I received this package today it was quite a surprise.



Well this is a positive development. Its something. Guess the next step is to see how it performs.
sr. member
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July 21, 2014, 01:03:29 PM
yes, you need to use the appropriate 20amp wire also (12/2 Gauge). I also don't recommend using 10amp chords on single miners even at 1000w, user 15amp.
legendary
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July 21, 2014, 12:47:21 PM
If you have 16 gage wire, put at 20A fuse into the 15A spot and you run 1800W continus be prepared to have fire departement stop by, you will burn down your shit.
sr. member
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July 21, 2014, 12:30:10 PM
To spread the word about the AMT User page on Facebook, I've started an ad campaign to reach the masses around the world. It's quite amazing the tools that facebook has in it's ad manager. In a few short weeks I've been able to reach thousands of people and more everyday.



Although this number is less than the views the thread on bitcointalk has, this campaign is reaching unique people vs repeats on bitcointalk.
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July 16, 2014, 06:22:57 AM
SCAMMERS!

I'm just wondering who you're screaming at?

This isn't their thread. If you are just trying to make it known they are scammy then obviously you're a little behind the times. 

Orders of 1.2TH should receive at least 1 2TH/s just because the fuck ups. I think they will use that as their justification for MPP. If they give the 1 TH for the 1.2 TH I think someone might hunt them down. It won't be me, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone

Now if we are looking at this from a monetary point of view we should be expecting at least 2 x 2Th/s models. This may not be the profit margin they were looking for but they would still make a couple hundred off of my order. Now remember they said they expected to run at a loss at first just so they could get their name out there and get some word of mouth. I think they've managed that at this point. Maybe not like they were expecting.

now 2 x2 TH/s is pushing it for keeping it in my home. It will make everything miserable and my outdated apartment's electric weep sparky tears. I live in a goddamn desert anyway. I'll have to look colocation if I don't want to fight the heat with the cooling. I'm wondering how much would be reasonable to pay.

I mean obviously what it would cost in electricity + just the convenience I've never had to co-locate before, anyone who has any words of advice so I don't get taken... again? Or just point me to any website you might find helpful and I'll take it from there.



There are a few cheap colos in the midwest and rockies as power tends to be cheaper, this thread http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=960832 has some good ones. Personally so I have the hardware closer I am willing to pay the premium and keep it in the NY/NJ area. But that's me, I have other things going on that require them to be close to me. But for most people, I would recommend the cheaper route. They are no less capable. Only drawback is you likley would be moving it outside of an easy to reach area. If you happen to be in one of the areas of cheaper power, then you should be able to find a colo local to you. Shop around and check reviews from IT pros in your area as well. That will help immensely.
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Just a regular guy who likes his fiber.
July 16, 2014, 05:06:13 AM
SCAMMERS!

I'm just wondering who you're screaming at?

This isn't their thread. If you are just trying to make it known they are scammy then obviously you're a little behind the times. 

Orders of 1.2TH should receive at least 1 2TH/s just because the fuck ups. I think they will use that as their justification for MPP. If they give the 1 TH for the 1.2 TH I think someone might hunt them down. It won't be me, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone

Now if we are looking at this from a monetary point of view we should be expecting at least 2 x 2Th/s models. This may not be the profit margin they were looking for but they would still make a couple hundred off of my order. Now remember they said they expected to run at a loss at first just so they could get their name out there and get some word of mouth. I think they've managed that at this point. Maybe not like they were expecting.

now 2 x2 TH/s is pushing it for keeping it in my home. It will make everything miserable and my outdated apartment's electric weep sparky tears. I live in a goddamn desert anyway. I'll have to look colocation if I don't want to fight the heat with the cooling. I'm wondering how much would be reasonable to pay.

I mean obviously what it would cost in electricity + just the convenience I've never had to co-locate before, anyone who has any words of advice so I don't get taken... again? Or just point me to any website you might find helpful and I'll take it from there.

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July 15, 2014, 03:36:05 PM
To be honest just looking at the pictures its pretty obvious what they are and comparing them to the website. They are just re-branded...honestly see nothing wrong with that.

So this is what they're shipping to everyone? $1000 machines to people who spent $5000? Even Apple can't pull off those kind of profit margins. WTG Josh!

Update 1.2ths




Yea would be pretty bad if they sent out just 1THs systems to 1.2Ths....guessing here but I think all 520Ghs users get the 1Ths and the 1.2Ths get 2ths seeing as there are no lesser options than 1Ths. Not a great situation...it would be nice if it were better comp for everyone (again assumption). I guess cross one bridge...at this point getting them at all is one bridge to cross. tackling the compensation situation would be another one. Assuming this is what is actually shipping. Until we get the hardware its just all speculation at this point.
legendary
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July 15, 2014, 03:17:14 PM
SCAMMERS!
legendary
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July 15, 2014, 03:00:21 PM
To be honest just looking at the pictures its pretty obvious what they are and comparing them to the website. They are just re-branded...honestly see nothing wrong with that.

So this is what they're shipping to everyone? $1000 machines to people who spent $5000? Even Apple can't pull off those kind of profit margins. WTG Josh!

Update 1.2ths


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July 15, 2014, 02:52:52 PM
AMT continues their censorship spree, without giving customers answers.

Another 30 out today. Please be kind enough to post that you've received a tracking number. Thanks.

What exactly are you shipping? Why are you hiding that fact? What are you hiding?

Huh they posted that in the last page did they not? Its pretty obvious they are AMT branded dragon miners. Until people start actually getting them though we won't know for sure really tho.

1 TH dragons?
1.2 TH dragons?
2 TH dragons?
scrypt dragons?

What exactly?



To be honest just looking at the pictures its pretty obvious what they are and comparing them to the website (http://www.bit-winkor.com). They are just re-branded...honestly see nothing wrong with that. We see it all the time with products. Sometimes its a tablet, or a phone or something else. Its all usually sourced from something in China with a few exceptions. If it works and we get our hash power + comp....looking at the economics of it, with whatever chips AMT had left (which likely was considerable) they could have had these made at a much lower cost than the advertised price and just had to pay for the additional work on assembly. They are working with an already working and proven design. On the cost side it should be alot less than the advertised price for them just on the point that AMT would have likely provided their own chips. How much more? Guessing each machine would be built at 1000-1300 depending on the model. This is a guess based on AMT providing chips to the source. Who knows what other incentives and such are involved that could bring the price up/down. But it seems like a reasonable estimate.
legendary
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July 15, 2014, 01:59:57 PM
AMT continues their censorship spree, without giving customers answers.

Another 30 out today. Please be kind enough to post that you've received a tracking number. Thanks.

What exactly are you shipping? Why are you hiding that fact? What are you hiding?

Huh they posted that in the last page did they not? Its pretty obvious they are AMT branded dragon miners. Until people start actually getting them though we won't know for sure really tho.

1 TH dragons?
1.2 TH dragons?
2 TH dragons?
scrypt dragons?

What exactly?

hero member
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July 14, 2014, 09:11:36 PM
Yes, otherwise I would not have mentioned it.

Ok, good. Yes, 2000 will blow not only every 15a circuit, but every 20a circuit at 120v. You can't run a circuit above 80% continuous (20a * 120v * 80% = 1920 watts). You will have to use dual circuits. They come with dual 1000w power supplies, so you'll have to put each power supply on a separate circuit.

Right. so doable if the circuits are seperated. For home based mining these will be very impractical. Also something of note....make sure the wires used are rated for the PSU currents being sent through it. Don't plug in a power cable used on a 300W PSU into a 1000W PSU or you will find the cables exploding, catching fire, melting (one or all at once). Common rookie mistake I made that mistake years ago on something else. Learned that lesson quick. I presume the systems will come with cables rated for use on them. That said check the cable jacket before plugging in. OR plug it in wait a few minutes....if the wire is hot to the touch, power the miner off lest you burn your house down or have the cable explode which could also cause the PSU to fry as well and in turn the miner.

These are just small but significant technical details most people don't think of as out side of the server room rarely is hardware this power intensive run. But yea what syke said is accurate as well. Better to split the load across to circuits. In theory you COULD get away with running the 2TH miner on a single 20A. But really really pushing it at that point and only then if you have a dual pole circuit. Single pole will likely just overheat and trip regularly in the summer. But that also assumes the miners run at peak 2k power all the time. Most of those are 80 percent efficient themselves (if I am guessing at bare min on PSU). So its possible to run ONLY a 2TH miner on a single 20A circuit and nothing more.
legendary
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July 14, 2014, 07:58:54 PM
Yes, otherwise I would not have mentioned it.

Ok, good. Yes, 2000 will blow not only every 15a circuit, but every 20a circuit at 120v. You can't run a circuit above 80% continuous (20a * 120v * 80% = 1920 watts). You will have to use dual circuits. They come with dual 1000w power supplies, so you'll have to put each power supply on a separate circuit.
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July 14, 2014, 06:00:20 PM
As nice as that would be, for those unaware with even one of those 2THs boxes, you will blow any 15A circuit (which is most US homes and apartments) 20A will run it, but you will need some cooling just from the looks of it it looks like a monster.....and for anyone with the cash, run it in a datacenter. Getting it hosted is your really best option unless you are willing and able to spend the money to add more Amps to a circuit or two (not to mention the nice electric bill that comes in at the end of the month).

Just looking at the specs online for these things. http://www.bit-winkor.com/xproducts_view.aspx?id=11 25Kg=55Lbs.

You do realize those are the exact same machines AMT is now bragging about?

Yes, otherwise I would not have mentioned it.
legendary
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July 14, 2014, 04:09:48 PM
As nice as that would be, for those unaware with even one of those 2THs boxes, you will blow any 15A circuit (which is most US homes and apartments) 20A will run it, but you will need some cooling just from the looks of it it looks like a monster.....and for anyone with the cash, run it in a datacenter. Getting it hosted is your really best option unless you are willing and able to spend the money to add more Amps to a circuit or two (not to mention the nice electric bill that comes in at the end of the month).

Just looking at the specs online for these things. http://www.bit-winkor.com/xproducts_view.aspx?id=11 25Kg=55Lbs.

You do realize those are the exact same machines AMT is now bragging about?
hero member
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July 14, 2014, 01:31:27 PM
Sorry AMT, deleting posts won't do any good.

Announcement:
We Segree Digital have developed new 2TH/S A1 28NM miner

Price and Delivery

Unit factory price : 2700USD/PC
More than 10pcs:  2600USD/PC

Looks like 3x 2TH/s miner for each 1.2 T order seems fair.

+1

As nice as that would be, for those unaware with even one of those 2THs boxes, you will blow any 15A circuit (which is most US homes and apartments) 20A will run it, but you will need some cooling just from the looks of it it looks like a monster.....and for anyone with the cash, run it in a datacenter. Getting it hosted is your really best option unless you are willing and able to spend the money to add more Amps to a circuit or two (not to mention the nice electric bill that comes in at the end of the month).

Just looking at the specs online for these things. http://www.bit-winkor.com/xproducts_view.aspx?id=11 25Kg=55Lbs.
sr. member
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July 14, 2014, 12:23:47 PM
Sorry AMT, deleting posts won't do any good.

Announcement:
We Segree Digital have developed new 2TH/S A1 28NM miner

Price and Delivery

Unit factory price : 2700USD/PC
More than 10pcs:  2600USD/PC

Looks like 3x 2TH/s miner for each 1.2 T order seems fair.

+1
legendary
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July 13, 2014, 08:30:14 PM
Sorry AMT, deleting posts won't do any good.

Announcement:
We Segree Digital have developed new 2TH/S A1 28NM miner

Price and Delivery

Unit factory price : 2700USD/PC
More than 10pcs:  2600USD/PC

Looks like 3x 2TH/s miner for each 1.2 T order seems fair.
legendary
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July 08, 2014, 08:09:48 AM
"the fact that there is a lodge around the corner"

THey didn't say it was in the lodge, they stated there was one near by

"Maybe they were in a hurry and didn't walk around it to see the front  Cheesy LOL"

To that they responded, "Actually that is the truth."

That is exactly what I was told by FedEx when they tried to deliver my first time, they didn't walk to the back.

The street address is an even number so looking North it is at the right side of the street.

Can AMT send a photo of the actual location?  I requested this, but was typically ignored.

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