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Could you explain in some more details of what this customer needed to do to fix the flaws in the design?

Are these software fixes?
Are these how the heat sinks are mounted on the board?

In the 3 weeks that we were working on the system, there were no problems with the electronics.  That particular unit has much more than 4 days on it.  At this point, I suspect, it has closer to 10 days as we were running prior to making it available online.  I have a machine shop making parts for us now as we are duplicating to get the rest of what we have here running.  Unfortunately, it is not much.  My hope is that AMT will come through with payment.  If not, I'll see what I can whittle away from their bill using other means. 

The customer came in with a half built unit with 5 hash boards installed.  He received the unit earlier in the day (just about 4 weeks ago or so) and brought it to IMET.  We did not try to power the unit. Instead, we took it all apart and tested one hash board at a time.  2 of the 5 hash boards received worked.  I showed the customer how to test hash boards and gave him a rack of hash boards right from our stock that were never delivered to AMT.  He went through the whole rack and saw 100% yield.  I gave him 3 working hash boards, and we spent 3 weeks working the pieces of the design that were flawed.  We never laid a soldering iron on the PCBs.  They worked fine out of the gate.   

Just to clarify what you are saying.

The customer came in with 3 bad boards,  you replaced them, and now they are working for 4 days straight?

No problem at all. 

Fair point. Thanks for clearing it up. You have to understand (if you read through these forums much) how any detail left out is left up to scrutiny. But knowing this helps all of us understand to some degree what is going on.

The customer got the miner directly from AMT.  I just helped him get it working.  We are not supplying hardware.  AMT has most of it anyway as we allowed them to take receipt based on prior dealings and a check that we didn't suspect would bounce.  The AMT customer put in the sweat equity and I put in the money to get where we are right now.  I figured I would see this through as I am interested in this market.

So why was a customer allowed to go in and get the miner? He put in the work to pick it up and that’s it? I get there is a dispute between AMT and IMET, I am just wondering how it was a customer was able to get a miner from your location? All said its kinda interesting if you solved the issues and AMT is not running with this......I am just pointing out that its better to keep a certain amount of scepticism until its certain that things are what they indeed appear to be....

If you are making arrangements for customers to get hardware like that....what is the arrangement? Sounds like its possible to get hardware from you directly? Customers could do this? Is there an added cost involved for those not skilled to put in the "sweat equity"?

We have 100% yield on the printed circuit boards that AMT left and did not touch, and I have an AMT customer that can vouch for IMET in this case.  The only reason I did something with the stuff AMT left is because an AMT customer came here and was willing to put in the sweat equity as long as I provided guidance.  This is the reason why I had time to take on this project.  I thought that it would cause AMT to pay their bill in exchange for info on how to get working units out to the public instead of pulling chips off of boards or whatever they are doing now.  We did not fix, modify, or change any of the PCBs.  We did not replace any boards in the system after the power outage.  The only reason I was in the shop on Sunday was to pack up for the Medical Design and Manufacturing show we had this week in NYC.  There is no rolling of dice, and I'll leave it to the AMT customer if he wants to come forward.

We will keep this unit (which actually belongs to the AMT customer now) running, so keep watching.  We had no working miners here, we simply started by rebuilding the unit that the AMT customer brought here.  The system that he received only had two working hash boards out of 5.  Again, we did not fix, modify, or change any of the PCBs.  We replaced the 3 bad boards, and I had the AMT customer do all of the things that I suggested that AMT do while we were working with them.  We have other units up too.        

Dude... a miner working for 4 days is better than any demonstration that AMT ever did.  Has AMT ever shown a working miner?

Its possible. Couple of reasons. One they have hardware they fixed...and are now mining with clearly. And its possible to have a working batch of hardware...To be honest they had an "outage" it could be that the hundreds of boards they they have could be replaced. I am just stating don't be so quick to believe them either. I had a working miner to start with for a few days before it systematically failed. It seems to be more like rolling the dice and hoping you get a lucky working device.

4 days is hardly a real benchmark with this hardware it seems anyway. There are other people here who had working devices for a bit longer than that and it started to fail later on. We don't know they could have a bunch of working miners there for all we know. We don't know. IMET could just as well be covering their own ass...but fact is they are mining with hardware. We don't know the situation as both sides have a reason to state its not their fault (regardless of whether it is or isn’t they have to do that for legal reasons to avoid liability)

Very interesting indeed!  Running for 4 days straight without any hiccups!

I thought these systems were fundamentally broken?   How is it that IMET is running the system continuously for 4 days without any hiccups?

Bick did you design something working lately ?

I confirmed today that either the power or the Internet to the building went down as we had other computer hardware offline when we tried to start work this morning.  Keep watching.

I got no follow up with AMT regarding the RMA.

Anyway,  I received a letter Friday from the Office of Attorney General in Pennsylvnia requesting additional information.

AMT legal woes going to turn to the worse.

I can see how that would come across. I tend to be more pragmatic in my approach to dealings and I had not even gone through all (100+) posts at the time...but I had a tendency to wait it out. Once the March timeframe came and went is when I felt action needed to be taken. This situation really sucks overall. BUT there is headway being made to make people whole (the technobit solution is a fuckton better than the previous solution on quite a few levels, I will let AMT comment on the details as thats their area to do with). The class action gives us accountability over this whole mess now. So there is no other option BUT to address this. I am just making sure by working with them now on this whole crap, we get GOOD results. I really hate that we got crap machines. BUT now I and others have the option to contribute to something better that we all can benefit from...sure AMT benefits...it might even make them a better company after all this (since they cant repeat this mess as a class actions settlement likely would add that provision in there or its contempt of court). The goal ultimately really is to make sure the miners who got fucked get made whole. You had one of these miners given or bought or whatever...if you didn't use it ok, but I am sure you can to some degree understand our need for this based on the quality of the hardware alone. I really don't care if it was IMET or whoever. I just want to make sure the next group of products we get to replace this works well.

Fair enough. I'll try to tone down the JBF thingie, albeit it was just penned as banter and not once due to hatred, for I truly dislike the word hate.

I'll gone one further. A couple years ago when I introduced Bitcoin Leather, I had three fellow bitcoiners of Jewish descent order custom wallets with no money down. To this day they set in Martin's studio awaiting payment. Seriously, I'm not pissed at them cause they're Jewish, in fact, I'm not pissed at all. Just the cost of doing business. And, I'm not pissed at Jews or think ill of their race due to this. What does surprise me though is that one of them is a well-known Bitcoiner who refuses to reply to emails/PMs, but I won't go outta my way and call this particular guy a scammer over over $150, albeit he's on my RADAR and won't be afraid to call him out if I catch win of him conducting some sort of scam.

Freemasons are great people.
Jews are great people.
I would love to visit Bulgaria and meet those lovely folks.
I have no qualms with any of the above.

Early on, I thought you were a shill of AMT, but changed my mind up to a couple days ago. At this penning, I'll honestly take your word that you're not.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Actually  I am not Josh or AMT...its pretty obvious...my spelling and prose alone speak for itself. You seen how AMT writes? script vs Scrypt? Among other things. All said I will apologize for my accusation toward you. I looked at ALOT more posts you have thousands...a book could be compiled from your stuff alone....I am not convinced you are a shill. Whatever your motive is it is what it is..I apologize for the shill thing. The racist thing on the other hand....it is an issue. That said in the past you have generally been polite to me at least so at least in the interest of mutual respect (hopefully) I will at least respectfully disagree with the one point on what I see as racist comments. I still think the other two d-bags are paid shills tho, the get called out and all they can do is toss it back without replying to the original question.

It amazes me that the person I once defended when Josh accused you of being a pedophile is accusing me of being a racist and taking payola, neither of which is true. I'm 54-years-old, and if either were true, I would declare such, e.g. all niggers are pieces of shit and BFL gave me Xs thousands of dollars to shut my motherfuckin' month. Since I've never said such, because neither is true, this is just a falsehood on Bick's part, of which I want to believe he's only spreading such because of what he perceives to be true based on my actions or lack thereof.

There is no reason in hell Bick should have the red-ass toward me, for I surely don't have it toward him. And, we're in the same camp pertaining to most issues, e.g. BFL and AMT.

Remember, I'm the dude that's dug up more shit on BFL, et al. than probably everybody else combined and, quite frankly, I'm outta ammo, sans sticking it up their ass for the Monach being late, but you guys have that covered.

Seriously, all, I was not paid one iota to keep a hands-off approach of BFL.

That said, I'll try this one more time: Peace, Bick.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Agreed and good advice....thanks.