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Topic: An complete argument for same-sex marriages. You can't prove it wrong (Read 2706 times)

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you know marriage is suppose to be a union of blessing from god, but the homosexuals wanted marriage cause they wanted to reap the benefits and union.  Thats why they fought so hard for.

OK.. so homosexuals want their marriages recognized, just to get hold of the benefits. In that case, why can't we extend the benefits to unmarried homosexual couples? There will be no need to go through a sham marriage.

You want to go on a first date and have to pay alimony if you don't call them again? Tongue

This is an important point though. I think all of the legal benefits (and drawbacks) of marriage should be separate from any religious component. There should be a legal marriage available to anyone (straights, gays, atheists etc.) and then religious institutions can decide which marriages they want to bless and allow into their church/mosque/temple to do the marriage ritual.

For a lot of couples the religious component is important, but only the legal marriage should provide tax benefits or spousal privilege or all of that stuff. Religions can decide who gets to do their type of marriage, but under the law everyone should be equal.
sr. member
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It's All About Choices Anyone can have a romantic and/or sexual relationship with anyone they choose. No one is forced to be with anyone. In order to get married, you need to be with someone of the opposite gender. If that's not something you want to do, then realize you aren't going to get married either instead of demanding the government needs to change to fit your choices.

you know marriage is suppose to be a union of blessing from god, but the homosexuals wanted marriage cause they wanted to reap the benefits and union.  Thats why they fought so hard for.

Says your religion but not all religions.  Why do you keep asking the government to meet your needs but not others?



I didnt state this in religion I stated that from television shows and other media sources and hearing gay couple just want to have the same benefits or share benefits from a job that they have like health care.
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This forum  is too open Everything can be discussed.  amazing!!!1

Well.... that is what we call the freedom of expression. And our ancestors fought hard to win that right. Well... some of the moonbats would like to take that away from us, but they are not going to succeed.
newbie
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This forum  is too open Everything can be discussed.  amazing!!!1
sr. member
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i think we should ban everything that i don't like, and everything that i DO like should be legal.

that's basically how dummies who are against same-sex marriage think. and they are stupid.
legendary
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you know marriage is suppose to be a union of blessing from god, but the homosexuals wanted marriage cause they wanted to reap the benefits and union.  Thats why they fought so hard for.

OK.. so homosexuals want their marriages recognized, just to get hold of the benefits. In that case, why can't we extend the benefits to unmarried homosexual couples? There will be no need to go through a sham marriage.
legendary
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It's All About Choices Anyone can have a romantic and/or sexual relationship with anyone they choose. No one is forced to be with anyone. In order to get married, you need to be with someone of the opposite gender. If that's not something you want to do, then realize you aren't going to get married either instead of demanding the government needs to change to fit your choices.

you know marriage is suppose to be a union of blessing from god, but the homosexuals wanted marriage cause they wanted to reap the benefits and union.  Thats why they fought so hard for.

Says your religion but not all religions.  Why do you keep asking the government to meet your needs but not others?

sr. member
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It's All About Choices Anyone can have a romantic and/or sexual relationship with anyone they choose. No one is forced to be with anyone. In order to get married, you need to be with someone of the opposite gender. If that's not something you want to do, then realize you aren't going to get married either instead of demanding the government needs to change to fit your choices.

you know marriage is suppose to be a union of blessing from god, but the homosexuals wanted marriage cause they wanted to reap the benefits and union.  Thats why they fought so hard for.
legendary
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It's All About Choices Anyone can have a romantic and/or sexual relationship with anyone they choose. No one is forced to be with anyone. In order to get married, you need to be with someone of the opposite gender. If that's not something you want to do, then realize you aren't going to get married either instead of demanding the government needs to change to fit your choices.
sr. member
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I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

This suggestion can be considered. Homosexuals are only 1% of the population, but they are creating nuisance to the remaining 99% of the population. It will be better if the homosexual and the heterosexual populations live separately.

Jesus Christ. Where do you get this shit from? 99% of people don't think like you or hold the same opinions. Homosexuals causing a nuisance? Wat? Is it them that's out doing all the crimes? I don't think I've ever been botherd by a homosexual in my entire life. They literally have no bearing or impact on my life and probably don't on yours. We can all live and coexist with all sexualities as long as people can get over their fear and pointless disgust and anger with them. Peace.

I agree, that we shouldn't judge others and we should coexist without anger towards them. Although I don't support same-sex relations, they're free to do what they want.

On the other hand, our nation was built upon Christian values and the bible says in Genesis 2:24 - "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."



But the bible doesn't say that the wife should be a man or a woman.

Did you read the whole bible to make that claim?  It will take someone more then 1 read to understand the bible, Alot of people ask me this question, "Why did god stopped talking with us?", I tell them to read at least half of the book and you will find the answer.  You guys wont understand the bible cause you never read it in the first place.
legendary
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Seriously though, does loving your neighbour extend to your gay athiest ones too?

Yes, it does. (:
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So the entire Old Testament is bullshit and you don't listen to that part of the bible?

That question is invalid.

I don't follow Old Testament law.

In place of the Old Testament law, we are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2) which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39)

Sounds pretty gay to me  Grin. Seriously though, does loving your neighbour extend to your gay athiest ones too?
legendary
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People who are anti-gay spend an awful lot of time thinking about gay sex, which seems kinda gay. Just sayin.  Wink
legendary
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I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

This suggestion can be considered. Homosexuals are only 1% of the population, but they are creating nuisance to the remaining 99% of the population. It will be better if the homosexual and the heterosexual populations live separately.

Jesus Christ. Where do you get this shit from? 99% of people don't think like you or hold the same opinions. Homosexuals causing a nuisance? Wat? Is it them that's out doing all the crimes? I don't think I've ever been botherd by a homosexual in my entire life. They literally have no bearing or impact on my life and probably don't on yours. We can all live and coexist with all sexualities as long as people can get over their fear and pointless disgust and anger with them. Peace.

I agree, that we shouldn't judge others and we should coexist without anger towards them. Although I don't support same-sex relations, they're free to do what they want.

On the other hand, our nation was built upon Christian values and the bible says in Genesis 2:24 - "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."



But the bible doesn't say that the wife should be a man or a woman.

No, it doesn't.
But there's no dictionary that says a wife can be a male either.
legendary
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So the entire Old Testament is bullshit and you don't listen to that part of the bible?

That question is invalid.

I don't follow Old Testament law,
The Old Testament is primarily a record of God’s interaction with the Israelites. The laws given to Moses (the Ten Commandments) were given specifically for them in the context of God’s covenant with them. The Mosaic Law never applied to anyone else.

It doesn't apply to Christians today.

In place of the Old Testament law, we are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2) which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39)

Here's a few other biblical references
  • So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. (Galatians 3:24-25)
  • The ‘Righteousness of God’ is now manifested apart from the Law. (Romans 3:21)
  • The Law is a law of sin and death…not of life. (Romans 8:2)
  • The Law was temporary, until the Messiah came. (Galatians 3:19)
legendary
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On the other hand, our nation was built upon Christian values and the bible says in Genesis 2:24 - "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."



No matter how many times that talking point is said....

NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

Unless you mean another country other then the USA, the USA was born from religious persecution and the constitution (as tortured and shit on as it has been as of late) was designed to keep religion out of government so.....

ALL RELIGIOUS and NON RELIGIOUS PEOPLE COULD BE FREE FROM TYRANNY. 

Your statements and others above wishing to FORCE THEIR SPECIFIC religious views on people illustrate that point exactly. 



The thing is even the persecuted believed marriage was between a man and a woman. Can any Native American bitcoin lovers dispute my claim?

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The bible says a lot of things but I doubt I'd see you calling for people to be put to death for adultery, pre-marital sex, working on Sundays, kids disrespecting their parents etc etc.

Could you find me those verses in the new testament please?

So the entire Old Testament is bullshit and you don't listen to that part of the bible?
legendary
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If we legalize homosexual marriage today, then tomorrow they will ask for homosexual adoption to be made legal. Next they will ask pedophilia to be made legal.This will never stop. I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

Good idea! I nominate the USA.  Cheesy Enjoy your new life in Saudi Arabia.
This country was founded by radicals who were religiously persecuted and wanted true freedom. That is where you don't make rules for me and I don't make them for you.
legendary
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The bible says a lot of things but I doubt I'd see you calling for people to be put to death for adultery, pre-marital sex, working on Sundays, kids disrespecting their parents etc etc.

Could you find me those verses in the new testament please?
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