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I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

This suggestion can be considered. Homosexuals are only 1% of the population, but they are creating nuisance to the remaining 99% of the population. It will be better if the homosexual and the heterosexual populations live separately.

Jesus Christ. Where do you get this shit from? 99% of people don't think like you or hold the same opinions. Homosexuals causing a nuisance? Wat? Is it them that's out doing all the crimes? I don't think I've ever been botherd by a homosexual in my entire life. They literally have no bearing or impact on my life and probably don't on yours. We can all live and coexist with all sexualities as long as people can get over their fear and pointless disgust and anger with them. Peace.

I agree, that we shouldn't judge others and we should coexist without anger towards them. Although I don't support same-sex relations, they're free to do what they want.

On the other hand, our nation was built upon Christian values and the bible says in Genesis 2:24 - "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."



The bible says a lot of things but I doubt I'd see you calling for people to be put to death for adultery, pre-marital sex, working on Sundays, kids disrespecting their parents etc etc. And like the user above said, it wasn't founded on Christian values, but even if it was that wouldn't mean anything.
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On the other hand, our nation was built upon Christian values and the bible says in Genesis 2:24 - "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."



No matter how many times that talking point is said....

NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

Unless you mean another country other then the USA, the USA was born from religious persecution and the constitution (as tortured and shit on as it has been as of late) was designed to keep religion out of government so.....

ALL RELIGIOUS and NON RELIGIOUS PEOPLE COULD BE FREE FROM TYRANNY. 

Your statements and others above wishing to FORCE THEIR SPECIFIC religious views on people illustrate that point exactly. 

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I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

This suggestion can be considered. Homosexuals are only 1% of the population, but they are creating nuisance to the remaining 99% of the population. It will be better if the homosexual and the heterosexual populations live separately.

Jesus Christ. Where do you get this shit from? 99% of people don't think like you or hold the same opinions. Homosexuals causing a nuisance? Wat? Is it them that's out doing all the crimes? I don't think I've ever been botherd by a homosexual in my entire life. They literally have no bearing or impact on my life and probably don't on yours. We can all live and coexist with all sexualities as long as people can get over their fear and pointless disgust and anger with them. Peace.

I agree, that we shouldn't judge others and we should coexist without anger towards them. Although I don't support same-sex relations, they're free to do what they want.

On the other hand, our nation was built upon Christian values and the bible says in Genesis 2:24 - "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

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I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

This suggestion can be considered. Homosexuals are only 1% of the population, but they are creating nuisance to the remaining 99% of the population. It will be better if the homosexual and the heterosexual populations live separately.

Jesus Christ. Where do you get this shit from? 99% of people don't think like you or hold the same opinions. Homosexuals causing a nuisance? Wat? Is it them that's out doing all the crimes? I don't think I've ever been botherd by a homosexual in my entire life. They literally have no bearing or impact on my life and probably don't on yours. We can all live and coexist with all sexualities as long as people can get over their fear and pointless disgust and anger with them. Peace.
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I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

This suggestion can be considered. Homosexuals are only 1% of the population, but they are creating nuisance to the remaining 99% of the population. It will be better if the homosexual and the heterosexual populations live separately.
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If we legalize homosexual marriage today, then tomorrow they will ask for homosexual adoption to be made legal. Next they will ask pedophilia to be made legal.This will never stop. I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

Comparing two adults getting married with raping kids is complete bs
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If we legalize homosexual marriage today, then tomorrow they will ask for homosexual adoption to be made legal. Next they will ask pedophilia to be made legal.This will never stop. I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

Jeeze, that post was laughably ignorant. Why don't we create a country and call it Intolerant Island and all you type of people can go live there in peace? You can always move to a country where homosexuality is illegal if it bothers you that much. Maybe try move to a militantly Muslim country and see how much you enjoy their intolerance.
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If we legalize homosexual marriage today, then tomorrow they will ask for homosexual adoption to be made legal. Next they will ask pedophilia to be made legal.This will never stop. I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.
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Morality is not an invention of higher intelligence.... just a thought for you.

I think you missed a 'not' from there, but don't worry cos I fixed it for you  Wink.

You've just used your own moral compass to past judgement, proving his point. It does not matter if you agree with each other or not as you are both not acting on pure animal instinct... Smiley

I literally have no idea how your drew that conclusion. How does what I said prove his point that there's an intelligent designer?
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Who am I to say who you can love? It's your body, your family, and your choice.
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For most part of the 1980s, HIV remained 100% confined to the homosexual community.

Try again: "1982: Health authorities soon realized that nearly half of the people identified with the syndrome were not homosexual men. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_HIV/AIDS)
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Morality is not an invention of higher intelligence.... just a thought for you.

I think you missed a 'not' from there, but don't worry cos I fixed it for you  Wink.

You've just used your own moral compass to past judgement, proving his point. It does not matter if you agree with each other or not as you are both not acting on pure animal instinct... Smiley
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Morality is not an invention of higher intelligence.... just a thought for you.

I think you missed a 'not' from there, but don't worry cos I fixed it for you  Wink.
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The Janesville School District superintendent issued a public apology Tuesday for the showing of a video that she describes as pro-gay marriage and in violation of district policies requiring the presentation of all sides of “controversial” or “political” topics.

In April, Craig High School’s Gay-Straight Alliance showed “Kids React to Gay Marriage,” a 16-minute video of children reacting to marriage proposals between same-sex couples and sharing their thoughts on issues like gay marriage bans or whether they would stay friends with someone who told them they were gay.

Bits of text flashed during the video offering viewers information about the history and status of gay marriage in the United States or about discrimination and hate crimes, among other things.

Superintendent Karen Schulte said in a statement that the GSA’s advisers and principal Alison Bjoin approved students viewing the video during classes. But Schulte said a later review of the video prompted her apology.

“The appropriate thing would be to present both sides of an issue or all sides of an issue, so that’s why I sent the apology, because I felt we did not follow board policy,” Schulte said in an interview.

Schulte said the video was “very biased” and violated the school district’s policies on controversial and political issues because it did not offer a similar look at views in support of keeping marriage between men and women.

The policy requires classroom discussions to include all sides of a political matter.

She said she felt “that the concept of gay marriage would fall under political action and/or legislation” because cases are being argued for and against it in courts across the country.
Day of Silence
The video was played on April 11 to recognize the Day of Silence, a national event to bring “attention to anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment in schools,” according to the Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network.

Schulte — who said she was directed by the Janesville School Board to issue the public apology this week — also said in the statement Tuesday that the district includes elimination of bullying and harassment toward all students as part of its Day of Silence activities and the video was not aligned with that purpose.

Jill Marcellus, spokeswoman for the Gay-Straight Alliance Network, said the focus should be on the fact that students were trying to raise awareness about issues facing the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community, rather than on the video.

“Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender youth face so many barriers in school, from harassment by their peers to unfair policies that punish youth because of who they are,” she said. “School staff should encourage, not condemn, the brave efforts of youth in Gay-Straight Alliance clubs to make their schools safer for all students.”

Video creators Benny and Rafi Fine said in an email that they do not consider the video to be biased, and consider “raw opinions of children to be incredibly valuable insight on our current society.”

They also said they were surprised to see any need for a public apology over the video.

“We feel it is a great resource to discuss both sides of the issue by seeing not just how these particular children answered the questions, but to answer and discuss the questions and information we presented as a starting off point to discuss what each individual viewer of the episode’s opinions are on the subject themselves,” they said.

Parents complained

Schulte’s apology came after a School Board member contacted the district office about two parents and a grandparent who had contacted the principal upset about the video.

After receiving complaints, Bjoin told students in the Gay-Straight Alliance that some students may have been offended and talked about guidelines for the future, Schulte said.

A grandparent contacted the School Board because she felt a public apology for what happened in April was warranted also, board member Bill Sodemann said.

“I found the video to be inappropriate and propaganda laden in addition to the left-wing political view,” grandparent Jo Yungerman wrote to the principal in a letter dated April 17 provided to the State Journal.

Bjoin declined to comment. Teacher Diana Mishleau-Daluge, who is listed on the high school’s website as the GSA’s adviser, did not return phone calls.

Second conflict

This is the second time in six years that there was conflict in the school district over the Day of Silence.

In 2008, GSA students in both Janesville high schools hung informational posters leading up to the Day of Silence, which drew ire from some community members — including Sodemann, who was a board member at the time, according to Janesville Gazette archives.

“If you’re going to deal with those (controversial issues), then you’re going to deal with them in an even-handed and balanced way and this was neither,” he said Tuesday.

Sodemann also said he considered the video to be bullying people who did not support same-sex marriage on a day highlighting the wrongs of bullying.

He said he also would object to showing a video about keeping marriage between men and women — or about any issue — that didn’t offer a balanced presentation.



http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/education/local_schools/janesville-superintendent-issues-apology-for-kids-react-to-gay-marriage/article_02e5f70a-1c73-53ea-97ff-f634675f2831.html


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Its funny how non believers lack god in there life, but when they are in they death bed, they want a priest and cross is near there bed and cry out to be forgiven.   You all later in life will seek god when your life is nearing to its end.  Always happens.

Lol, you are funny!
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Morality is an invention of higher intelligence.... just a thought for you.
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Its funny how non believers lack god in there life, but when they are in they death bed, they want a priest and cross is near there bed and cry out to be forgiven.   You all later in life will seek god when your life is nearing to its end.  Always happens.

No it doesn't. And I bet you'll be just as scared to die as everyone else is, but not everyone is scared into believing in nonsense. Have you also actually thought about what's gonna happen if you're worshipping the wrong god? Maybe the god and the bible you believe in are the works of Satan? I also doubt you're that moral of a person as you seem to have quite the dislike of homosexuals, so maybe I'll see you in hell?

I'm fully educated in morality and know there is nothing morally wrong with consensual sex or sex acts. I don't believe in any gods, but if he or they exist they will know where to find me and present themselves. I choose not to forgo the intelligence you believe he gave me.  

you just prove the point that I was saying before, you lack god in your life, cause quote "I don't believe in any god's".  How can you know about morality without a spiritual guidance, your just going on what others have taught you and your taking it as your own, which you really do believe is your own.


You get your morality from a book written by people and a non-existent entity who happens to not be very moral at all, in fact, he's the exact opposite. I get my morals from having the intelligence to know the difference between right and wrong.

level of Intelligence doesn't measure the ability of right and wrong. People will say Hitler was intelligent and others will say hes insane.  Its has to do with morals and having a conscious.  Also book written by man yes, but book was inspired by god and pass down to many generations.  Let go of that pride you have and open your heart to god.
also to add I get my right and wrong from my conscious and to know in my heart that something is wrong, I admit I am a sinner and I do wrong and so do homosexuals but nor do I hate them.  So dont say I hate when I don't have a care in the world in what choice they make, the one who will judge is god not me.  All Im saying everything is from my point of view.

Hitler obviously didn't have the intelligence to know right from wrong, but he himself thought he was a god, or certainly modelled himself after one as most tyrants do (because there's no bigger tyrant than the god of the bible). And I didn't say you hate gays, but seem to dislike them, but if god judges us on morals then I have nothing to worry about.

but see you are not clearly seeing that intelligence has nothing to do with right and wrong is morals and having a conscious. Hitler was in fact intelligent of then he wouldn't not be able to manipulate many into war where he was morally wrong.   He didn't have a conscious, that's why he was the monster that he was or maybe he had a mental disease that cause him to be a soulless and not to have a conscious
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I know its not ok and you lack God cause you need to find him.

In brief:

  • Your god doesn't exist and if he did, he would be immoral, not us.
  • True morality is based on causing happiness and alleviating suffering.
  • If a sexual act between two consenting adults causes happiness and no suffering, it is not immoral.

Try reading less Leviticus, and more Jesus. Jesus was a good man and a wise philosopher, and spent his life counselling acceptance, forgiveness and love.

Couldn't have said it any better.

If you lead a good life, all is fine!
And God does NOT exist,.....except for Satoshi Nakamoto...  Wink
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Its funny how non believers lack god in there life, but when they are in they death bed, they want a priest and cross is near there bed and cry out to be forgiven.   You all later in life will seek god when your life is nearing to its end.  Always happens.

No it doesn't. And I bet you'll be just as scared to die as everyone else is, but not everyone is scared into believing in nonsense. Have you also actually thought about what's gonna happen if you're worshipping the wrong god? Maybe the god and the bible you believe in are the works of Satan? I also doubt you're that moral of a person as you seem to have quite the dislike of homosexuals, so maybe I'll see you in hell?

I'm fully educated in morality and know there is nothing morally wrong with consensual sex or sex acts. I don't believe in any gods, but if he or they exist they will know where to find me and present themselves. I choose not to forgo the intelligence you believe he gave me.  

you just prove the point that I was saying before, you lack god in your life, cause quote "I don't believe in any god's".  How can you know about morality without a spiritual guidance, your just going on what others have taught you and your taking it as your own, which you really do believe is your own.


You get your morality from a book written by people and a non-existent entity who happens to not be very moral at all, in fact, he's the exact opposite. I get my morals from having the intelligence to know the difference between right and wrong.

level of Intelligence doesn't measure the ability of right and wrong. People will say Hitler was intelligent and others will say hes insane.  Its has to do with morals and having a conscious.  Also book written by man yes, but book was inspired by god and pass down to many generations.  Let go of that pride you have and open your heart to god.
also to add I get my right and wrong from my conscious and to know in my heart that something is wrong, I admit I am a sinner and I do wrong and so do homosexuals but nor do I hate them.  So dont say I hate when I don't have a care in the world in what choice they make, the one who will judge is god not me.  All Im saying everything is from my point of view.

Hitler obviously didn't have the intelligence to know right from wrong, but he himself thought he was a god, or certainly modelled himself after one as most tyrants do (because there's no bigger tyrant than the god of the bible). And I didn't say you hate gays, but seem to dislike them, but if god judges us on morals then I have nothing to worry about.
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Its funny how non believers lack god in there life, but when they are in they death bed, they want a priest and cross is near there bed and cry out to be forgiven.   You all later in life will seek god when your life is nearing to its end.  Always happens.

No it doesn't. And I bet you'll be just as scared to die as everyone else is, but not everyone is scared into believing in nonsense. Have you also actually thought about what's gonna happen if you're worshipping the wrong god? Maybe the god and the bible you believe in are the works of Satan? I also doubt you're that moral of a person as you seem to have quite the dislike of homosexuals, so maybe I'll see you in hell?

I'm fully educated in morality and know there is nothing morally wrong with consensual sex or sex acts. I don't believe in any gods, but if he or they exist they will know where to find me and present themselves. I choose not to forgo the intelligence you believe he gave me.  

you just prove the point that I was saying before, you lack god in your life, cause quote "I don't believe in any god's".  How can you know about morality without a spiritual guidance, your just going on what others have taught you and your taking it as your own, which you really do believe is your own.


You get your morality from a book written by people and a non-existent entity who happens to not be very moral at all, in fact, he's the exact opposite. I get my morals from having the intelligence to know the difference between right and wrong.

level of Intelligence doesn't measure the ability of right and wrong. People will say Hitler was intelligent and others will say hes insane.  Its has to do with morals and having a conscious.  Also book written by man yes, but book was inspired by god and pass down to many generations.  Let go of that pride you have and open your heart to god.
also to add I get my right and wrong from my conscious and to know in my heart that something is wrong, I admit I am a sinner and I do wrong and so do homosexuals but nor do I hate them.  So dont say I hate when I don't have a care in the world in what choice they make, the one who will judge is god not me.  All Im saying everything is from my point of view.
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