How can you know about morality without a spiritual guidance, your just going on what others have taught you.
Whereas you base your morality on what just one (imaginary) person has taught you.
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May 14, 2014, 10:22:09 AM
Whereas you base your morality on what just one (imaginary) person has taught you.
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May 14, 2014, 10:56:04 AM
Its funny how non believers lack god in there life, but when they are in they death bed, they want a priest and cross is near there bed and cry out to be forgiven. You all later in life will seek god when your life is nearing to its end. Always happens.
No it doesn't. And I bet you'll be just as scared to die as everyone else is, but not everyone is scared into believing in nonsense. Have you also actually thought about what's gonna happen if you're worshipping the wrong god? Maybe the god and the bible you believe in are the works of Satan? I also doubt you're that moral of a person as you seem to have quite the dislike of homosexuals, so maybe I'll see you in hell?
I'm fully educated in morality and know there is nothing morally wrong with consensual sex or sex acts. I don't believe in any gods, but if he or they exist they will know where to find me and present themselves. I choose not to forgo the intelligence you believe he gave me.
you just prove the point that I was saying before, you lack god in your life, cause quote "I don't believe in any god's". How can you know about morality without a spiritual guidance, your just going on what others have taught you and your taking it as your own, which you really do believe is your own.
You get your morality from a book written by people and a non-existent entity who happens to not be very moral at all, in fact, he's the exact opposite. I get my morals from having the intelligence to know the difference between right and wrong.
May 14, 2014, 10:49:33 AM
Hilarious. History shows us that IV drug users (motivated by money) gave the infected blood.
No. For most part of the 1980s, HIV remained 100% confined to the homosexual community. The incidence among the IDUs started to increase only during the beginning of the 1990s. Almost 100% of the first thousand or so people who contracted HIV in the US were either homosexual or bi-sexual. The Patient Zero is believed to be Robert Rayford (d. 1969) of St. Louis, Missouri, who was homosexual.
May 14, 2014, 10:14:01 AM
I know its not ok and you lack God cause you need to find him.
In brief:
- Your god doesn't exist and if he did, he would be immoral, not us.
- True morality is based on causing happiness and alleviating suffering.
- If a sexual act between two consenting adults causes happiness and no suffering, it is not immoral.
Try reading less Leviticus, and more Jesus. Jesus was a good man and a wise philosopher, and spent his life counselling acceptance, forgiveness and love.
... And yet Jesus would be attacked as a bigot for his religious views on twitter right now, if he was walking among us right now....
Jesus, like everyone, was a product of his time. While he may have been far ahead of his time, no-one is perfect, including him.
I'm curious though, who do you think Jesus was bigoted against?
May 14, 2014, 10:42:17 AM
Its funny how non believers lack god in there life, but when they are in they death bed, they want a priest and cross is near there bed and cry out to be forgiven. You all later in life will seek god when your life is nearing to its end. Always happens.
May 14, 2014, 10:23:37 AM
I know its not ok and you lack God cause you need to find him.
In brief:
- Your god doesn't exist and if he did, he would be immoral, not us.
- True morality is based on causing happiness and alleviating suffering.
- If a sexual act between two consenting adults causes happiness and no suffering, it is not immoral.
Try reading less Leviticus, and more Jesus. Jesus was a good man and a wise philosopher, and spent his life counselling acceptance, forgiveness and love.
... And yet Jesus would be attacked as a bigot for his religious views on twitter right now, if he was walking among us right now....
He does alright https://twitter.com/jesus 600k followers! lol
May 14, 2014, 09:38:16 AM
I know its not ok and you lack God cause you need to find him.
In brief:
- Your god doesn't exist and if he did, he would be immoral, not us.
- True morality is based on causing happiness and alleviating suffering.
- If a sexual act between two consenting adults causes happiness and no suffering, it is not immoral.
Try reading less Leviticus, and more Jesus. Jesus was a good man and a wise philosopher, and spent his life counselling acceptance, forgiveness and love.
May 14, 2014, 10:18:14 AM
Yes it unethical to have anal sex from both sexes. I never have committed anal sex, sure some of us get tempted to because society brought it up because is ok, but in reality the asshole wasnt made for sex. Dont you wonder how HIV came to existence because of the dirty behavior of mans sins?
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
It's only unethical according to the bible, but god/the bible aren’t exactly ethical are they? We also don't know conclusively how AIDS came about, but I hope you're not trying to blame that on homosexuals and buttsex though?
And you should live a little. Blowjobs are great (as long as they're consensual and not performed on kids - just thought I'd put that disclaimer there since I need to keep stating the obvious).
So just cause it feels good your justifying it to be ok, another sample of how low we became to behave like animals. I think you lack god in your life my friend, I cant judge you and call you an idiot like you did unto the other person, but Im stating these are sins that we created from man and became accepted onto society. Also monkeys have performed sexual gay acts and contracted a similar HIV and they are animals, do men have to behave like animals? This is god gift to us all free choice. But remember when you go into the ground you will be the one to be judged and so will I.
Please tell me exactly how it's not ok? If it feels good and it's not harming anybody else then it's ok in my eyes. I don't see how there's anything morally wrong with it at all. And I'm not lacking god, he's lacking me. I really don't need silly things like god or ancient and outdated books to tell me how to live my life.
Its ok for you cause you were brought into that kind of society and accept it, instead of educating yourself in moral behavior, you do the monkey see and monkey do behavior. Its ok just because most of your society says its now ok. I know its not ok and you lack God cause you need to find him. Its not Gods job to look for you. Jesus had to pray hard for 40 days to reach his father, what make you so special?
I'm fully educated in morality and know there is nothing morally wrong with consensual sex or sex acts. I don't believe in any gods, but if he or they exist they will know where to find me and present themselves. I choose not to forgo the intelligence you believe he gave me.
you just prove the point that I was saying before, you lack god in your life, cause quote "I don't believe in any god's". How can you know about morality without a spiritual guidance, your just going on what others have taught you and your taking it as your own, which you really do believe is your own.
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May 14, 2014, 10:05:57 AM
Yes it unethical to have anal sex from both sexes. I never have committed anal sex, sure some of us get tempted to because society brought it up because is ok, but in reality the asshole wasnt made for sex. Dont you wonder how HIV came to existence because of the dirty behavior of mans sins?
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
It's only unethical according to the bible, but god/the bible aren’t exactly ethical are they? We also don't know conclusively how AIDS came about, but I hope you're not trying to blame that on homosexuals and buttsex though?
And you should live a little. Blowjobs are great (as long as they're consensual and not performed on kids - just thought I'd put that disclaimer there since I need to keep stating the obvious).
So just cause it feels good your justifying it to be ok, another sample of how low we became to behave like animals. I think you lack god in your life my friend, I cant judge you and call you an idiot like you did unto the other person, but Im stating these are sins that we created from man and became accepted onto society. Also monkeys have performed sexual gay acts and contracted a similar HIV and they are animals, do men have to behave like animals? This is god gift to us all free choice. But remember when you go into the ground you will be the one to be judged and so will I.
Please tell me exactly how it's not ok? If it feels good and it's not harming anybody else then it's ok in my eyes. I don't see how there's anything morally wrong with it at all. And I'm not lacking god, he's lacking me. I really don't need silly things like god or ancient and outdated books to tell me how to live my life.
Its ok for you cause you were brought into that kind of society and accept it, instead of educating yourself in moral behavior, you do the monkey see and monkey do behavior. Its ok just because most of your society says its now ok. I know its not ok and you lack God cause you need to find him. Its not Gods job to look for you. Jesus had to pray hard for 40 days to reach his father, what make you so special?
I'm fully educated in morality and know there is nothing morally wrong with consensual sex or sex acts. I don't believe in any gods, but if he or they exist they will know where to find me and present themselves. I choose not to forgo the intelligence you believe he gave me.
May 14, 2014, 10:04:44 AM
I know its not ok and you lack God cause you need to find him.
In brief:
- Your god doesn't exist and if he did, he would be immoral, not us.
- True morality is based on causing happiness and alleviating suffering.
- If a sexual act between two consenting adults causes happiness and no suffering, it is not immoral.
Try reading less Leviticus, and more Jesus. Jesus was a good man and a wise philosopher, and spent his life counselling acceptance, forgiveness and love.
... And yet Jesus would be attacked as a bigot for his religious views on twitter right now, if he was walking among us right now....
May 14, 2014, 09:30:34 AM
Also monkeys have performed sexual gay acts and contracted a similar HIV and they are animals, do men have to behave like animals? This is god gift to us all free choice. But remember when you go into the ground you will be the one to be judged and so will I.
When the HIV was first discovered among the gays in San Francisco and Los Angeles, the disease was treated by the medical authorities as something confined to the homosexual community. The homosexuals protested that because of this, the research was not given enough funds. Do you know what happened after that? The gay community encouraged the HIV positive members to donate their blood, so that the disease might creep in to the general population. The first recorded HIV epidemic in the US resulted from this grand thinking.
Hilarious. History shows us that IV drug users (motivated by money) gave the infected blood.
May 14, 2014, 09:13:45 AM
The gays touch the children and gave us all AIDS!!!11!!!
This stuff is killer
. Let me guess, they poisoned the wells too? And they're working together with the 13 Terrorist European Bloodlines to try to reprogram bitcoin to spy on you?
they must be stopped! May 14, 2014, 09:28:31 AM
Yes it unethical to have anal sex from both sexes. I never have committed anal sex, sure some of us get tempted to because society brought it up because is ok, but in reality the asshole wasnt made for sex. Dont you wonder how HIV came to existence because of the dirty behavior of mans sins?
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
It's only unethical according to the bible, but god/the bible aren’t exactly ethical are they? We also don't know conclusively how AIDS came about, but I hope you're not trying to blame that on homosexuals and buttsex though?
And you should live a little. Blowjobs are great (as long as they're consensual and not performed on kids - just thought I'd put that disclaimer there since I need to keep stating the obvious).
So just cause it feels good your justifying it to be ok, another sample of how low we became to behave like animals. I think you lack god in your life my friend, I cant judge you and call you an idiot like you did unto the other person, but Im stating these are sins that we created from man and became accepted onto society. Also monkeys have performed sexual gay acts and contracted a similar HIV and they are animals, do men have to behave like animals? This is god gift to us all free choice. But remember when you go into the ground you will be the one to be judged and so will I.
Please tell me exactly how it's not ok? If it feels good and it's not harming anybody else then it's ok in my eyes. I don't see how there's anything morally wrong with it at all. And I'm not lacking god, he's lacking me. I really don't need silly things like god or ancient and outdated books to tell me how to live my life.
Its ok for you cause you were brought into that kind of society and accept it, instead of educating yourself in moral behavior, you do the monkey see and monkey do behavior. Its ok just because most of your society says its now ok. I know its not ok and you lack God cause you need to find him. Its not Gods job to look for you. Jesus had to pray hard for 40 days to reach his father, what make you so special?
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May 14, 2014, 09:03:42 AM
Yes it unethical to have anal sex from both sexes. I never have committed anal sex, sure some of us get tempted to because society brought it up because is ok, but in reality the asshole wasnt made for sex. Dont you wonder how HIV came to existence because of the dirty behavior of mans sins?
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
It's only unethical according to the bible, but god/the bible aren’t exactly ethical are they? We also don't know conclusively how AIDS came about, but I hope you're not trying to blame that on homosexuals and buttsex though?
And you should live a little. Blowjobs are great (as long as they're consensual and not performed on kids - just thought I'd put that disclaimer there since I need to keep stating the obvious).
So just cause it feels good your justying it to be ok, another sample of how low we became to behave like animals. I think you lack god in your life my freind, I cant judge you and call you an idiot like you did unto the other person, but Im stating these are sins that we created from man and became accepted onto society. Also monkeys have performed sexual gay acts and contracted a similar HIV and they are animals, do men have to behave like animals? This is god gift to us all free choice. But remember when you go into the ground you will be the one to be judged and so will I.
Please tell me exactly how it's not ok? If it feels good and it's not harming anybody else then it's ok in my eyes. I don't see how there's anything morally wrong with it at all. And I'm not lacking god, he's lacking me. I really don't need silly things like god or ancient and outdated books to tell me how to live my life.
May 14, 2014, 08:55:30 AM
Also monkeys have performed sexual gay acts and contracted a similar HIV and they are animals, do men have to behave like animals? This is god gift to us all free choice. But remember when you go into the ground you will be the one to be judged and so will I.
When the HIV was first discovered among the gays in San Francisco and Los Angeles, the disease was treated by the medical authorities as something confined to the homosexual community. The homosexuals protested that because of this, the research was not given enough funds. Do you know what happened after that? The gay community encouraged the HIV positive members to donate their blood, so that the disease might creep in to the general population. The first recorded HIV epidemic in the US resulted from this grand thinking.
May 14, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
Yes it unethical to have anal sex from both sexes. I never have committed anal sex, sure some of us get tempted to because society brought it up because is ok, but in reality the asshole wasnt made for sex. Dont you wonder how HIV came to existence because of the dirty behavior of mans sins?
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
It's only unethical according to the bible, but god/the bible aren’t exactly ethical are they? We also don't know conclusively how AIDS came about, but I hope you're not trying to blame that on homosexuals and buttsex though?
And you should live a little. Blowjobs are great (as long as they're consensual and not performed on kids - just thought I'd put that disclaimer there since I need to keep stating the obvious).
So just cause it feels good your justying it to be ok, another sample of how low we became to behave like animals. I think you lack god in your life my freind, I cant judge you and call you an idiot like you did unto the other person, but Im stating these are sins that we created from man and became accepted onto society. Also monkeys have performed sexual gay acts and contracted a similar HIV and they are animals, do men have to behave like animals? This is god gift to us all free choice. But remember when you go into the ground you will be the one to be judged and so will I.
May 14, 2014, 08:41:18 AM
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Do those who engage in homosexuality disproportionately sexually abuse foster or adoptive children as reported by child protective services? Illinois child services reported sexual abuse for 1997 through 2002. 270 parents committed "substantiated" sexual offenses against foster or subsidized adoptive children: 67 (69%) of 97 of these mother and 148 (86%) of 173 of these father perpetrators sexually abused girls; 30 (31%) of the mothers and 25 (14%) of the father perpetrators sexually abused boys, i.e., 92 (34%) of the perpetrators homosexually abused their charges.
As usual the maths behind these 'studies' is a load of shit, are you honestly going to tell me that 270 over an 11 year period is representative of all homosexuals in America never mind the whole world? Feel free to come back to me when you have a sampling of more than 10,000 across several states and not just Illinois, this isn't research, this is just half-assed finger pointing and thinly veiled insults which is the most religious people can muster the majority of the time anyway.
May 14, 2014, 08:35:53 AM
STUDY FINDS DISPROPORTIONATE ABUSE BY 'GAYS'
I read those links, but couldn't find any actual mention of the abusers' sexual orientation. Without that data, there's no way to determine whether they abused children of the same sex because they were homosexual, or whether they abuse children of the same sex despite not being homosexual due to children of the "appropriate" sex not being readily available. The study is fatally flawed on that point alone.That is correct. He has been debunked because he did exactly that. He took the sexual abuse from the heterosexual foster parents and ADDED IT into the homosexual side if the abuse was male on male.
He also only included a mostly select group of lower income gays and everyone from the straight side. If you only include lower income straight people you also have MUCH more abuse.
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May 14, 2014, 08:34:12 AM
Yes it unethical to have anal sex from both sexes. I never have committed anal sex, sure some of us get tempted to because society brought it up because is ok, but in reality the asshole wasnt made for sex. Dont you wonder how HIV came to existence because of the dirty behavior of mans sins?
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
oh yea I never had a blow job, nor did animals get blowjobs it was created by temptations of sick men.
It's only unethical according to the bible, but god/the bible aren’t exactly ethical are they? We also don't know conclusively how AIDS came about, so I hope you're not trying to blame that on homosexuals and buttsex though?
And you should live a little. Blowjobs are great (as long as they're consensual and not performed on kids - just thought I'd put that disclaimer there since I need to keep stating the obvious).
May 14, 2014, 08:31:41 AM
STUDY FINDS DISPROPORTIONATE ABUSE BY 'GAYS'
I read those links, but couldn't find any actual mention of the abusers' sexual orientation. Without that data, there's no way to determine whether they abused children of the same sex because they were homosexual, or whether they abuse children of the same sex despite not being homosexual due to children of the "appropriate" sex not being readily available. The study is fatally flawed on that point alone. Jump to: