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legendary
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August 30, 2018, 02:44:42 PM
The correction from 8,500$ pushed the 6h and 12h MACD well into negative, so for a strong pump I would expect to see a double bottom first.
By consequence, I am guessing a weak pump will follow the next days, followed by a minor correction, and then the real pump.

I wasn't bearish enough... No weak pump yet... If this will go below 6,000$, it will trigger weekly PSAR switch to bearish... Roll Eyes

We touched 6,000$ but didn't yet flip the weekly PSAR to bearish. Since the market is very oversold in 24h frame, we may see a bounce.
But without strong buys during the next 2 weeks, IMO the weekly PSAR will flip to bearish and we'll eventually bottom around 3,000$.



What do you consider to be strong buys in the next two weeks?  You would want to see the BTC price go above a certain amount, such as $7k or higher? and perhaps some volume, too?  How much of an increase in trade volume, and how do you measure trade volume exactly?  Would you use a few of the main exchanges, CMC or you have some other way of assessing BTC trade volume that is comfortable for you?   

By the way, even though you tend to provide some decent assessments, Tzupy, I do take any of these kinds of TA assessments with a BIG ass grain of salt while bitcoin continues to have decent unexpected upside potential merely from its unique asset class and ongoing scurve adoption dynamics... and a current seemingly ongoing dynamic remains a bit of the seeming bleeding of alt coin money back into the BTC space.  So alt coins seem to be suffering a quite a bit more than bitcoin and may be leading, to some extent (to the extent that they can lead) this ongoing BTC price dynamic.  In that regard, there remains uncertainty about whether some alt coin investors are just getting completely out of the space and moving to fiat or whether some of them might prefer to sink some of all of their previous alt coin money into bitcoin.  I am not sure how to really measure all of those kinds of factors in a predictive way which is just attempting to say that the bitcoin space is unique in terms of how to apply TA.. and really maybe just providing a bit more weight to upside potential could sufficiently offset some TA principles in order to make them more accurate when attempting to apply them to bitcoin?

In the mean time, weekly PSAR flipped to bearish on Bitstamp and GDAX, so it's likely the shit will hit the fan, the bearish scenario is now my favorite.
The market stayed very oversold in the 24h time frame, I was expecting some bounce, but it didn't happen, so I deem the market as very weak.

The market has recovered to some extent, and now is experiencing a (hopefully minor) correction.
If this will play similar to July 9 - 15, then we'll get a new rally, possibly reaching ~10 k$. Watch the 12h time frame, for exiting oversold.

hero member
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August 16, 2018, 01:37:35 AM
It's being discussed starting by here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274613.5160
Not sure he posted any fundamentals, he just said "no resistances until 15k", then he applied the EW likewise.
hero member
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August 15, 2018, 03:03:16 PM
So wait...  What was masterluc's prediction on this day last year?  I think it was supposed to be higher than where it is now and bullish right?
I'd like to see what chart he did around Aug. 14, 2017 if a reg in this thread could kindly pull it up.  Thanks.  Smiley
That chart ?
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/pmV1uLC7-Bitcoin-Longterm-update/
The timeframe isn't good anymore but for me still pretty accurate until BTC drop below $5k.
edit:
mistake, it's that one: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/3RjQGYZp-No-resistance-till-15000-when-3500-will-break-up/
Again, still accurate to me except the timeframe, but if it keep dropping, the chart will be invalidated.
This one is also nice, the accuracy is high for a +1y old prediction: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YRZvdurN-The-target-of-current-bubble-lays-between-40k-and-110k/
That chart ?
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/pmV1uLC7-Bitcoin-Longterm-update/
The timeframe isn't good anymore but for me still pretty accurate until BTC drop below $5k.
hmmmm  huh heh ha ba ha BAH HA BAH HA HA!!!
The chart?!!! The chart?!!!  Grin
Always interesting as to why there is no fundamentals in your analysis, are these linked elsewhere?
It's not my analysis.
Was just an answer to @tokeweed.

no disrespect

i just found the strike funny in the current market as it seems all TA has gone out the window

seriously though
Are fundamentals included with these analysis, or they do not exist in this world, or linked elsewhere?

again no disrespect, gave me a chuckle

cheers

Thanks Mallyx.  Appreciate it. 

And reading about the 'fundamentals' are nice but it doesn't really help some traders, on when to buy, at what price and how much to buy.  Everything really is in the price, momentum and volatility imho.  The rest is just market noise.

But that's just me.

Fundamentals have to be specified only when they are subjective.
When they are objective, just refer to the rules.

To me @masterluc is the most accurate guy of all time with his predictions, belong @chessnut. He can be wrong, ofc, it's just predictions, not prophecies.
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
August 15, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
So wait...  What was masterluc's prediction on this day last year?  I think it was supposed to be higher than where it is now and bullish right?
I'd like to see what chart he did around Aug. 14, 2017 if a reg in this thread could kindly pull it up.  Thanks.  Smiley
That chart ?
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/pmV1uLC7-Bitcoin-Longterm-update/
The timeframe isn't good anymore but for me still pretty accurate until BTC drop below $5k.
edit:
mistake, it's that one: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/3RjQGYZp-No-resistance-till-15000-when-3500-will-break-up/
Again, still accurate to me except the timeframe, but if it keep dropping, the chart will be invalidated.
This one is also nice, the accuracy is high for a +1y old prediction: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YRZvdurN-The-target-of-current-bubble-lays-between-40k-and-110k/
That chart ?
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/pmV1uLC7-Bitcoin-Longterm-update/
The timeframe isn't good anymore but for me still pretty accurate until BTC drop below $5k.
hmmmm  huh heh ha ba ha BAH HA BAH HA HA!!!
The chart?!!! The chart?!!!  Grin
Always interesting as to why there is no fundamentals in your analysis, are these linked elsewhere?
It's not my analysis.
Was just an answer to @tokeweed.

no disrespect

i just found the strike funny in the current market as it seems all TA has gone out the window

seriously though
Are fundamentals included with these analysis, or they do not exist in this world, or linked elsewhere?

again no disrespect, gave me a chuckle

cheers

Thanks Mallyx.  Appreciate it. 

And reading about the 'fundamentals' are nice but it doesn't really help some traders, on when to buy, at what price and how much to buy.  Everything really is in the price, momentum and volatility imho.  The rest is just market noise.

But that's just me.
hero member
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August 15, 2018, 05:04:50 AM
Masterluc isn't so easy to follow, I'm only wayching that thread sometimes.
The TA above is 1y+ old and I find it pretty accurate. He moslty rely to Eliott waves for his predictions.
hero member
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August 14, 2018, 10:24:37 AM
So wait...  What was masterluc's prediction on this day last year?  I think it was supposed to be higher than where it is now and bullish right?

I'd like to see what chart he did around Aug. 14, 2017 if a reg in this thread could kindly pull it up.  Thanks.  Smiley


That chart ?
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/pmV1uLC7-Bitcoin-Longterm-update/
The timeframe isn't good anymore but for me still pretty accurate until BTC drop below $5k.

edit:
mistake, it's that one: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/3RjQGYZp-No-resistance-till-15000-when-3500-will-break-up/
Again, still accurate to me except the timeframe, but if it keep dropping, the chart will be invalidated.

This one is also nice, the accuracy is high for a +1y old prediction: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YRZvdurN-The-target-of-current-bubble-lays-between-40k-and-110k/

That chart ?
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/pmV1uLC7-Bitcoin-Longterm-update/
The timeframe isn't good anymore but for me still pretty accurate until BTC drop below $5k.

hmmmm  huh heh ha ba ha BAH HA BAH HA HA!!!

The chart?!!! The chart?!!!  Grin

Always interesting as to why there is no fundamentals in your analysis, are these linked elsewhere?


It's not my analysis.

Was just an answer to @tokeweed.
hero member
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August 14, 2018, 09:33:06 AM
So wait...  What was masterluc's prediction on this day last year?  I think it was supposed to be higher than where it is now and bullish right?

I'd like to see what chart he did around Aug. 14, 2017 if a reg in this thread could kindly pull it up.  Thanks.  Smiley


That chart ?
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/pmV1uLC7-Bitcoin-Longterm-update/
The timeframe isn't good anymore but for me still pretty accurate until BTC drop below $5k.

edit:
mistake, it's that one: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/3RjQGYZp-No-resistance-till-15000-when-3500-will-break-up/
Again, still accurate to me except the timeframe, but if it keep dropping, the chart will be invalidated.

This one is also nice, the accuracy is high for a +1y old prediction: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YRZvdurN-The-target-of-current-bubble-lays-between-40k-and-110k/
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
August 14, 2018, 08:36:04 AM
So wait...  What was masterluc's prediction on this day last year?  I think it was supposed to be higher than where it is now and bullish right?

I'd like to see what chart he did around Aug. 14, 2017 if a reg in this thread could kindly pull it up.  Thanks.  Smiley
legendary
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August 14, 2018, 06:36:44 AM
The correction from 8,500$ pushed the 6h and 12h MACD well into negative, so for a strong pump I would expect to see a double bottom first.
By consequence, I am guessing a weak pump will follow the next days, followed by a minor correction, and then the real pump.

I wasn't bearish enough... No weak pump yet... If this will go below 6,000$, it will trigger weekly PSAR switch to bearish... Roll Eyes

We touched 6,000$ but didn't yet flip the weekly PSAR to bearish. Since the market is very oversold in 24h frame, we may see a bounce.
But without strong buys during the next 2 weeks, IMO the weekly PSAR will flip to bearish and we'll eventually bottom around 3,000$.



What do you consider to be strong buys in the next two weeks?  You would want to see the BTC price go above a certain amount, such as $7k or higher? and perhaps some volume, too?  How much of an increase in trade volume, and how do you measure trade volume exactly?  Would you use a few of the main exchanges, CMC or you have some other way of assessing BTC trade volume that is comfortable for you?   

By the way, even though you tend to provide some decent assessments, Tzupy, I do take any of these kinds of TA assessments with a BIG ass grain of salt while bitcoin continues to have decent unexpected upside potential merely from its unique asset class and ongoing scurve adoption dynamics... and a current seemingly ongoing dynamic remains a bit of the seeming bleeding of alt coin money back into the BTC space.  So alt coins seem to be suffering a quite a bit more than bitcoin and may be leading, to some extent (to the extent that they can lead) this ongoing BTC price dynamic.  In that regard, there remains uncertainty about whether some alt coin investors are just getting completely out of the space and moving to fiat or whether some of them might prefer to sink some of all of their previous alt coin money into bitcoin.  I am not sure how to really measure all of those kinds of factors in a predictive way which is just attempting to say that the bitcoin space is unique in terms of how to apply TA.. and really maybe just providing a bit more weight to upside potential could sufficiently offset some TA principles in order to make them more accurate when attempting to apply them to bitcoin?

In the mean time, weekly PSAR flipped to bearish on Bitstamp and GDAX, so it's likely the shit will hit the fan, the bearish scenario is now my favorite.
The market stayed very oversold in the 24h time frame, I was expecting some bounce, but it didn't happen, so I deem the market as very weak.
legendary
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August 11, 2018, 04:58:48 PM
he's been wrong on all his predictions lately, i wont be surprised if we break 6000 and go towards 5K before rebounding a little and then slowly crash towards 2600

didnt see your edit, yeah too optimistic for me too, the get quick rich people and all the retail investors have to be burned before we switch to a bull market, now the market is just exhausting their nerves, we havent entered the despair phase where they are wondering if it will ever come back up again

Aye. I'm interested in what he has to say but I think his magic touch has wafted away for now. We still haven't reached the truly sweat inducing price, let alone the indifference phase. It depends on whether this is a lull that picks up towards the end of the year or a continued descent.

he's still been pretty solid on the bigger picture. i think he (rightfully) has become less and less precise because this market trades much choppier than in the old days---it's super algo-heavy now. it's simply less predictable than it used to be. so as a trader, i fade less and less, and i ride trends more and more.

we got a nice short squeeze today off $6k. hopefully a sign that he's right about $6k being on the low end of an accumulation range.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
August 11, 2018, 04:52:31 PM
he's been wrong on all his predictions lately, i wont be surprised if we break 6000 and go towards 5K before rebounding a little and then slowly crash towards 2600

didnt see your edit, yeah too optimistic for me too, the get quick rich people and all the retail investors have to be burned before we switch to a bull market, now the market is just exhausting their nerves, we havent entered the despair phase where they are wondering if it will ever come back up again

Aye. I'm interested in what he has to say but I think his magic touch has wafted away for now. We still haven't reached the truly sweat inducing price, let alone the indifference phase. It depends on whether this is a lull that picks up towards the end of the year or a continued descent.
legendary
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August 11, 2018, 03:55:40 PM
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What do you consider to be strong buys in the next two weeks?  You would want to see the BTC price go above a certain amount, such as $7k or higher? and perhaps some volume, too?  How much of an increase in trade volume, and how do you measure trade volume exactly?  Would you use a few of the main exchanges, CMC or you have some other way of assessing BTC trade volume that is comfortable for you?   

By the way, even though you tend to provide some decent assessments, Tzupy, I do take any of these kinds of TA assessments with a BIG ass grain of salt while bitcoin continues to have decent unexpected upside potential merely from its unique asset class and ongoing scurve adoption dynamics... and a current seemingly ongoing dynamic remains a bit of the seeming bleeding of alt coin money back into the BTC space.  So alt coins seem to be suffering a quite a bit more than bitcoin and may be leading, to some extent (to the extent that they can lead) this ongoing BTC price dynamic.  In that regard, there remains uncertainty about whether some alt coin investors are just getting completely out of the space and moving to fiat or whether some of them might prefer to sink some of all of their previous alt coin money into bitcoin.  I am not sure how to really measure all of those kinds of factors in a predictive way which is just attempting to say that the bitcoin space is unique in terms of how to apply TA.. and really maybe just providing a bit more weight to upside potential could sufficiently offset some TA principles in order to make them more accurate when attempting to apply them to bitcoin?

By strong buys I understand buys that would break the 8,500$ resistance, followed by a minor ABC correction, and to keep the price action away from the lower BB on the weekly chart.
So far, what I have seen favors a bearish scenario, the correction from 8,500$ was stronger than I expected (I had bullish expectations), and we are close to the lower BB.
Still, since we flipped the 12h PSAR to bullish and seems we are emerging from the 24h very oversold state, I expect to have found a local bottom (at least for a while).
That some altcoins do much worse than bitcoin does not make bitcoin look more bullish, sorry.
legendary
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August 11, 2018, 02:42:51 PM
The correction from 8,500$ pushed the 6h and 12h MACD well into negative, so for a strong pump I would expect to see a double bottom first.
By consequence, I am guessing a weak pump will follow the next days, followed by a minor correction, and then the real pump.

I wasn't bearish enough... No weak pump yet... If this will go below 6,000$, it will trigger weekly PSAR switch to bearish... Roll Eyes

We touched 6,000$ but didn't yet flip the weekly PSAR to bearish. Since the market is very oversold in 24h frame, we may see a bounce.
But without strong buys during the next 2 weeks, IMO the weekly PSAR will flip to bearish and we'll eventually bottom around 3,000$.



What do you consider to be strong buys in the next two weeks?  You would want to see the BTC price go above a certain amount, such as $7k or higher? and perhaps some volume, too?  How much of an increase in trade volume, and how do you measure trade volume exactly?  Would you use a few of the main exchanges, CMC or you have some other way of assessing BTC trade volume that is comfortable for you?   

By the way, even though you tend to provide some decent assessments, Tzupy, I do take any of these kinds of TA assessments with a BIG ass grain of salt while bitcoin continues to have decent unexpected upside potential merely from its unique asset class and ongoing scurve adoption dynamics... and a current seemingly ongoing dynamic remains a bit of the seeming bleeding of alt coin money back into the BTC space.  So alt coins seem to be suffering a quite a bit more than bitcoin and may be leading, to some extent (to the extent that they can lead) this ongoing BTC price dynamic.  In that regard, there remains uncertainty about whether some alt coin investors are just getting completely out of the space and moving to fiat or whether some of them might prefer to sink some of all of their previous alt coin money into bitcoin.  I am not sure how to really measure all of those kinds of factors in a predictive way which is just attempting to say that the bitcoin space is unique in terms of how to apply TA.. and really maybe just providing a bit more weight to upside potential could sufficiently offset some TA principles in order to make them more accurate when attempting to apply them to bitcoin?
legendary
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August 11, 2018, 04:04:51 AM
The correction from 8,500$ pushed the 6h and 12h MACD well into negative, so for a strong pump I would expect to see a double bottom first.
By consequence, I am guessing a weak pump will follow the next days, followed by a minor correction, and then the real pump.

I wasn't bearish enough... No weak pump yet... If this will go below 6,000$, it will trigger weekly PSAR switch to bearish... Roll Eyes

We touched 6,000$ but didn't yet flip the weekly PSAR to bearish. Since the market is very oversold in 24h frame, we may see a bounce.
But without strong buys during the next 2 weeks, IMO the weekly PSAR will flip to bearish and we'll eventually bottom around 3,000$.

jr. member
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August 10, 2018, 02:23:03 PM
From ML on his Telegram Channel:  Дa, в бoк. Идём в бoкoвик. $6000-$7000 длитeльнaя зoнa нaкoплeния биткoв.

Google Translate:  Yes, in the side. We go to the outset. $ 6000- $ 7000 long zone of accumulation of cues.


As usual, need some Russian language speakers to translate and decipher.

Manual translation: "Yes, sideways. We are transitioning to sideways moving market.  $6000-$7000 is long lasting Bitcoin accumulation zone."

he's been wrong on all his predictions lately, i wont be surprised if we break 6000 and go towards 5K before rebounding a little and then slowly crash towards 2600

didnt see your edit, yeah too optimistic for me too, the get quick rich people and all the retail investors have to be burned before we switch to a bull market, now the market is just exhausting their nerves, we havent entered the despair phase where they are wondering if it will ever come back up again
legendary
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August 10, 2018, 02:18:37 PM
From ML on his Telegram Channel:  Дa, в бoк. Идём в бoкoвик. $6000-$7000 длитeльнaя зoнa нaкoплeния биткoв.

Google Translate:  Yes, in the side. We go to the outset. $ 6000- $ 7000 long zone of accumulation of cues.


As usual, need some Russian language speakers to translate and decipher.

Manual translation: "Yes, sideways. We are transitioning to sideways moving market.  $6000-$7000 is long lasting Bitcoin accumulation zone."

Quite optimistic statement, if you ask me...
sr. member
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August 09, 2018, 09:59:40 PM
For some reason bitcoin is called "cueballs."  Could be slang, or something about the auto-translator getting confused by non-standard Russian spelling.  The bit about long term accumulation 6-7k is obvious, but it might be interesting to receive a little enlightenment about what "Дa, в бoк. Идём в бoкoвик." might mean.
Bing translator translates Идём в бoкoвик as "go to sideways," apparently what me mean when we say going sideways.
newbie
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August 09, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
From ML on his Telegram Channel:  Дa, в бoк. Идём в бoкoвик. $6000-$7000 длитeльнaя зoнa нaкoплeния биткoв.

Google Translate:  Yes, in the side. We go to the outset. $ 6000- $ 7000 long zone of accumulation of cues.


As usual, need some Russian language speakers to translate and decipher.
legendary
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August 08, 2018, 12:39:50 PM
The correction from 8,500$ pushed the 6h and 12h MACD well into negative, so for a strong pump I would expect to see a double bottom first.
By consequence, I am guessing a weak pump will follow the next days, followed by a minor correction, and then the real pump.

I wasn't bearish enough... No weak pump yet... If this will go below 6,000$, it will trigger weekly PSAR switch to bearish... Roll Eyes
legendary
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August 08, 2018, 09:33:42 AM
Has masterluc made any prediction lately?
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