Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) - page 26.

BitUsher

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Activity: 994

Merit: 1035

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on January 19, 2016, 08:28:43 PM

Quote from: BitUsher on January 19, 2016, 08:07:41 PM

.. I was open to using bitcoin classic in the past now I won't even consider touching it with my experience talking with their supporters...

awww..billy gonna take his ball and go home? Cry

I am more puzzled and disappointing than upset as profit is a much lower priority to what interests me with bitcoin . You are another example of a bitcoin classic supporter who is very poorly educated and constantly spreading misinformation. Its almost as if you are a troll... but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are merely very misinformed.

jonald_fyookball

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Activity: 1302

Merit: 1008

Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political

Quote from: BitUsher on January 19, 2016, 08:07:41 PM

.. I was open to using bitcoin classic in the past now I won't even consider touching it with my experience talking with their supporters...

awww..billy gonna take his ball and go home? Cry

BitUsher

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Activity: 994

Merit: 1035

Quote from: sgbett on January 19, 2016, 07:39:01 PM

A client can do things. Miners decide if they use it. The ceo and customers can only petition the client maintainers.

Can kicking is preferable to nothing. Unless you have a strong motive to do nothing?

This is exactly what I am talking about. This is why I am can consider dumping the miners if they pick classic. It doesn't matter how many times we correct the misleading statements, they are being repeated ad nasseum over and over. I don't know if this is a deliberate tactic or they really have been propagandized so much that they believe the what they are saying.

One last time ... segwit has essentially the same capacity as bitcoin classic. It is "kicking the can" just the same and will likely be deployed faster than classic.... I really am getting sick of this mudslinging, conspiracy theories, and misrepresentations... If the SHA256 miners listen to this crowd than I want nothing to do with them ... I was open to using bitcoin classic in the past now I won't even consider touching it with my experience talking with their supporters...

Lauda

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 2965

Terminated.

Quote from: sgbett on January 19, 2016, 07:39:01 PM

A client can do things. Miners decide if they use it. The ceo and customers can only petition the client maintainers.

You must have misunderstood my point, but nevermind.

Quote from: sgbett on January 19, 2016, 07:39:01 PM

Can kicking is preferable to nothing. Unless you have a strong motive to do nothing?

In what world does SegWit equal to 'doing nothing'? The time needed for SegWit will probably be very similar to the time at which the fork would active (if Classic had enough support). So it is not really a question about time.

sgbett

legendary

Activity: 2576

Merit: 1087

Quote from: Lauda on January 19, 2016, 07:31:38 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on January 19, 2016, 07:24:30 PM

No the idea is to decentralize development that way NO group of devs has much influence over the anything but their own implementation.

So that the CEO and the customers tell you what the best way of configuring the server (or network, whichever analogy you prefer) is, even though you're a server (or network) engineer? Does this make sense to you?

Let's not forget here that there would be a major change if something like Classic would take of:

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think of this team of newbies (Gavin excluded, but he's not a permanent team member) taking control of the consensus rules?

Let's not forget the fact that 2 MB blocks essentially solve nothing. They kick the can down the road (the question is by how much).

A client can do things. Miners decide if they use it. The ceo and customers can only petition the client maintainers.

Can kicking is preferable to nothing. Unless you have a strong motive to do nothing?

Lauda

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 2965

Terminated.

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on January 19, 2016, 07:24:30 PM

No the idea is to decentralize development that way NO group of devs has much influence over the anything but their own implementation.

So that the CEO and the customers tell you what the best way of configuring the server (or network, whichever analogy you prefer) is, even though you're a server (or network) engineer? Does this make sense to you?

Let's not forget here that there would be a major change if something like Classic would take of:

Quote

think of this team of newbies (Gavin excluded, but he's not a permanent team member) taking control of the consensus rules?

Let's not forget the fact that 2 MB blocks essentially solve nothing. They kick the can down the road (the question is by how much).

jonald_fyookball

legendary

Activity: 1302

Merit: 1008

Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political

Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 19, 2016, 06:38:13 PM

Quote from: sgbett on January 19, 2016, 05:43:14 PM

Quote from: siameze on January 19, 2016, 04:15:51 PM

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Point #2 sounds a bit ominous. I'm left wondering where all this will end up lately but it does seem as if these guys care about keeping Bitcoin free of gov influence.

Doesn't anyone else see the irony in the proposed solution to "keeping Bitcoin free of gov influence" is to make sure its only usable by a small group of elite's headed up my MP

Frying pan / Fire.

When your proposed solution is, what, exactly? To transfer influence over the code to an even smaller group of devs, sans their big friend, banking shill Mike Hearn?

Bitcoin already has dozens of devs competing to get good code into the client, and Bitcoin takeover shills (like yourself) can't change that for "Bitcoin Classic" with conceited statements any more than you could for "Bitcoin XT"

No the idea is to decentralize development that way NO group of devs has much influence over the anything but their own implementation.

sgbett

legendary

Activity: 2576

Merit: 1087

Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 19, 2016, 06:38:13 PM

Quote from: sgbett on January 19, 2016, 05:43:14 PM

Quote from: siameze on January 19, 2016, 04:15:51 PM

...
Point #2 sounds a bit ominous. I'm left wondering where all this will end up lately but it does seem as if these guys care about keeping Bitcoin free of gov influence.

Doesn't anyone else see the irony in the proposed solution to "keeping Bitcoin free of gov influence" is to make sure its only usable by a small group of elite's headed up my MP

Frying pan / Fire.

When your proposed solution is, what, exactly? To transfer influence over the code to an even smaller group of devs, sans their big friend, banking shill Mike Hearn?

Bitcoin already has dozens of devs competing to get good code into the client, and Bitcoin takeover shills (like yourself) can't change that for "Bitcoin Classic" with conceited statements any more than you could for "Bitcoin XT"

Hand waves, look at those guys building something else, they are the baddest, pay no attention to the guy overtly threatening to destroy things.

Cconvert2G36

sr. member

Activity: 392

Merit: 250

Found another shill... a BIG one.

Quote from: Cconvert2G36 on January 19, 2016, 06:05:51 PM

Either Loaded Wink

is back... or his reddit account was compromised...

Edit: The author of the post indicates that they will provide a properly signed statement on Thurs.

Carlton Banks

legendary

Activity: 3430

Merit: 3080

Quote from: sgbett on January 19, 2016, 05:43:14 PM

Quote from: siameze on January 19, 2016, 04:15:51 PM

...
Point #2 sounds a bit ominous. I'm left wondering where all this will end up lately but it does seem as if these guys care about keeping Bitcoin free of gov influence.

Doesn't anyone else see the irony in the proposed solution to "keeping Bitcoin free of gov influence" is to make sure its only usable by a small group of elite's headed up my MP

Frying pan / Fire.

When your proposed solution is, what, exactly? To transfer influence over the code to an even smaller group of devs, sans their big friend, banking shill Mike Hearn?

Bitcoin already has dozens of devs competing to get good code into the client, and Bitcoin takeover shills (like yourself) can't change that for "Bitcoin Classic" with conceited statements any more than you could for "Bitcoin XT"

sgbett

legendary

Activity: 2576

Merit: 1087

Quote from: siameze on January 19, 2016, 04:15:51 PM

...
Point #2 sounds a bit ominous. I'm left wondering where all this will end up lately but it does seem as if these guys care about keeping Bitcoin free of gov influence.

Doesn't anyone else see the irony in the proposed solution to "keeping Bitcoin free of gov influence" is to make sure its only usable by a small group of elite's headed up my MP

Frying pan / Fire.

siameze

legendary

Activity: 1064

Merit: 1000

Quote from: hdbuck on January 19, 2016, 03:04:19 PM

Quote from: Zarathustra on January 19, 2016, 02:58:07 PM

A nullcoin in the making:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/41ps56/q_for_gregory_maxwell_would_it_be_within/cz49v1l

If miners want to play dictators, going separate ways seems logic.
Bitcoin certainly does not need 4 corporate mastodonte ruling over.

http://qntra.net/2016/01/recent-bitcoin-direction/

Y'all been warned. Grin

http://deedbot.org/deed-393913-1.txt

Quote

To any miners contemplating deserting Bitcoin in favour of pursuing an USG-sponsored would-be competitor :

1. Bear in mind that the actual Bitcoin chain, with a patch to disable current ASIC miners, will continue to exist, and will continue to be used.

2. Make sure that you obtain ~upfront~ payment sufficient to cover whatever The Most Serene Republic might dump on your alternate chain plus whatever you yourselves need to sell in order to cover your own costs. You will not be able to return after you leave, nor will your capital goods have any further utility in this world.

3. Remember that your pontifical "allies", while very much inclined to promise and posture, have an unbroken track record of not actually delivering upon those promises. In this case, as generally the case with them, they don't even actually have the resources to indemnify you in the first place.

That is all.

In other words, sorry for your loss. ^^

This sounds interesting, I was wondering when qntra would weigh in on this.

Point #2 sounds a bit ominous. I'm left wondering where all this will end up lately but it does seem as if these guys care about keeping Bitcoin free of gov influence.

iCEBREAKER

legendary

Activity: 2156

Merit: 1072

Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: watashi-kokoto on January 19, 2016, 12:33:18 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on January 19, 2016, 12:31:34 PM

Quote from: watashi-kokoto on January 19, 2016, 12:19:04 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on January 17, 2016, 12:45:58 PM

Quote from: keepdoing on January 17, 2016, 12:05:13 PM

Quote from: Lauda on January 17, 2016, 11:55:54 AM

There would be no war if people weren't selfish and following their own agenda

Well, we agree on something finally. So... when are you lot going to stop DDOSing, Spreading FUD, Lying, Manipulating, and following a whiny & childish scorched earth policy of trying to destroy Bitcoin if you can't control it?

?

Nobody can control bitcoin.
Only forkers want to destroy bitcoin... by forking it.

The hard fork is going to fail.

Shhh let the deluded Noobs around here and their segregated big blocks multi client Peter r encoded fantaisies going on. Useless people needs their forum drama going on for they at least feel ~~impotent~~ important somehow.

I know where the office of your team is located and I am going to post it on Wikileaks, soon.

That's great news. I look forward to putting in a resume!

hdbuck

legendary

Activity: 1260

Merit: 1002

Quote from: BitUsher on January 19, 2016, 03:38:37 PM

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/41aocn/httpsbitcoinorgenbitcoincorecapacityincreases_why/cz0z9ym
https://github.com/luke-jr/bitcoin/commit/8d3a84c242598ef3cdc733e99dddebfecdad84a6

Keccak with a Nf15 appears extremely ASIC resistant.

Excellent. I would consider this as an option. I wouldn't dream of leaving the current SHA256 miners a week ago , but after attempting to have some friendly discussions with some of the Bitcoin Classic/ Bitcoin unlimited group of supporters it appears their ideals and understanding of bitcoin are much different than my own. I do respect that core devs are so prepared that they already have an alternative ready just in case the unlikely happens.

my GPUs are in the starting blocks. Grin

BitUsher

legendary

Activity: 994

Merit: 1035

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/41aocn/httpsbitcoinorgenbitcoincorecapacityincreases_why/cz0z9ym
https://github.com/luke-jr/bitcoin/commit/8d3a84c242598ef3cdc733e99dddebfecdad84a6

Keccak with a Nf15 appears extremely ASIC resistant.

Excellent. I would consider this as an option. I wouldn't dream of leaving the current SHA256 miners a week ago , but after attempting to have some friendly discussions with some of the Bitcoin Classic/ Bitcoin unlimited group of supporters it appears their ideals and understanding of bitcoin are much different than my own. I do respect that core devs are so prepared that they already have an alternative ready just in case the unlikely happens.

iCEBREAKER

legendary

Activity: 2156

Merit: 1072

Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: sAt0sHiFanClub on January 19, 2016, 11:41:01 AM

you are correct. for some reason i didnt see that...

Probably the same reason you think a confederation is the same thing as a democracy.

IE, you are not very intelligent. Wink

hdbuck

legendary

Activity: 1260

Merit: 1002

Quote from: Zarathustra on January 19, 2016, 02:58:07 PM

A nullcoin in the making:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/41ps56/q_for_gregory_maxwell_would_it_be_within/cz49v1l

If miners want to play dictators, going separate ways seems logic.
Bitcoin certainly does not need 4 corporate mastodonte ruling over.

http://qntra.net/2016/01/recent-bitcoin-direction/

Y'all been warned. Grin

http://deedbot.org/deed-393913-1.txt

Quote

To any miners contemplating deserting Bitcoin in favour of pursuing an USG-sponsored would-be competitor :

1. Bear in mind that the actual Bitcoin chain, with a patch to disable current ASIC miners, will continue to exist, and will continue to be used.

2. Make sure that you obtain ~upfront~ payment sufficient to cover whatever The Most Serene Republic might dump on your alternate chain plus whatever you yourselves need to sell in order to cover your own costs. You will not be able to return after you leave, nor will your capital goods have any further utility in this world.

3. Remember that your pontifical "allies", while very much inclined to promise and posture, have an unbroken track record of not actually delivering upon those promises. In this case, as generally the case with them, they don't even actually have the resources to indemnify you in the first place.

That is all.

In other words, sorry for your loss. ^^

Zarathustra

legendary

Activity: 1162

Merit: 1004

A nullcoin in the making:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/41ps56/q_for_gregory_maxwell_would_it_be_within/cz49v1l

Lauda

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 2965

Terminated.

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on January 19, 2016, 01:00:49 PM

If you are right, then that means an economic majority was unable to wrest control from the status quo.

If you are wrong it means the old paradigm's time had come.

Time will tell.

I don't see the economic majority trying to do that. At the moment there is no 'majority' as per definition that wants to move the development away from Core.

jonald_fyookball

legendary

Activity: 1302

Merit: 1008

Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political

Quote from: watashi-kokoto on January 19, 2016, 12:19:04 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on January 17, 2016, 12:45:58 PM

Quote from: keepdoing on January 17, 2016, 12:05:13 PM

Quote from: Lauda on January 17, 2016, 11:55:54 AM

There would be no war if people weren't selfish and following their own agenda

Well, we agree on something finally. So... when are you lot going to stop DDOSing, Spreading FUD, Lying, Manipulating, and following a whiny & childish scorched earth policy of trying to destroy Bitcoin if you can't control it?

?

Nobody can control bitcoin.
Only forkers want to destroy bitcoin... by forking it.

The hard fork is going to fail.

If you are right, then that means an economic majority was unable to wrest control from the status quo.

If you are wrong it means the old paradigm's time had come.

Time will tell.

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