drone drone drone
Care to make a point? But not as contradictory this time, mkay?
edit: Actually, don't bother. You are just a lightweight, less colourful version of icebreaker. I fall asleep reading your arguments.
Topic: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) - page 38. (Read 46564 times)
January 14, 2016, 06:42:55 PM
drone drone drone
Care to make a point? But not as contradictory this time, mkay?
edit: Actually, don't bother. You are just a lightweight, less colourful version of icebreaker. I fall asleep reading your arguments.
January 14, 2016, 06:14:05 PM
Let's not play the "first you say this" "then you say this game", shall we?
Or shall we?
I invite anyone interested to assess the "satoshi fan club" record for itself: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sat0shifanclub-462682
Keep talking
Or shall we?
I invite anyone interested to assess the "satoshi fan club" record for itself: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sat0shifanclub-462682
Keep talking
January 14, 2016, 06:04:06 PM
First you say this:
And then you say this:
And you expect intelligent people to take you seriously.
Lol at the usual piss-poor trolling attempts. Let's not forget the reason all these trolls-for-hire are here at all
And then you say this:
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Let's solve it like adults, instead of acting like shouting really loudly....
And you expect intelligent people to take you seriously.
January 14, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
Lol at the usual piss-poor trolling attempts.
Let's not forget the reason all these trolls-for-hire are here at all: Bitcoin is a roaring success. There's nothing to argue about if not. I endorse the continued success of the Core dev team, because good crypto is like everything that's good: you need to take your time over getting it right, but then you can enjoy quality and quantity.
Don't get washed away with another "there's a problem with Bitcoin" client-fork; if Bitcoin is too successful, that's a good problem to have. Let's solve it like adults, instead of acting like shouting really loudly can overtrump reason. It has not, and will not.
Let's not forget the reason all these trolls-for-hire are here at all: Bitcoin is a roaring success. There's nothing to argue about if not. I endorse the continued success of the Core dev team, because good crypto is like everything that's good: you need to take your time over getting it right, but then you can enjoy quality and quantity.
Don't get washed away with another "there's a problem with Bitcoin" client-fork; if Bitcoin is too successful, that's a good problem to have. Let's solve it like adults, instead of acting like shouting really loudly can overtrump reason. It has not, and will not.
January 14, 2016, 04:20:22 PM
I though all this was about the freedom of choice.
This is about easily manipulating the masses into the wrong direction. No. The masses just want bigger blocks. The miner are ok with bigger blocks. Some developer want bigger blocks. Exchanges want bigger blocks. Payment-Provider want bigger blocks.
That you don't want them doesn't mean the others are manipulated. If there is any kind of manipulation it's obviously the censorship.
It's really ridiculous how you now quote satoshi while you ignored his message about scaling bitcoin to visa-level.
I would like to request that you show me where I stated something like that, my memory is a bit stuck. I have no idea what I have/might have said. I agree with scaling Bitcoin to a certain level, it just might be that I disagree with the method. Regardless, I'll wait for that link. I don't know. What do you think about his message, that we can simply raise the block-limit when we're knocking on it?
January 14, 2016, 04:16:17 PM
I want Bitcoin in a box, and I want it's code controlled by people like Pieter Wuille.
If anyone else wants to give the whole world the chance to vote on any/every code change, or a dictator less benevolent than Wuille, then by all means start that. In an altcoin. Stop trying to install someone who's not Wuille or van der Laan, it's really unsubtle.
If anyone else wants to give the whole world the chance to vote on any/every code change, or a dictator less benevolent than Wuille, then by all means start that. In an altcoin. Stop trying to install someone who's not Wuille or van der Laan, it's really unsubtle.
Thanks God it doesn't matter what you want, and you are not the one to define what an altcoin is and what bitcoin is.
January 14, 2016, 04:12:53 PM
I want Bitcoin in a box..
I'm sure you do, and the way you are going about it I'm afraid you might succeed.
January 14, 2016, 03:54:23 PM
I want Bitcoin in a box, and I want it's code controlled by people like Pieter Wuille.
If anyone else wants to give the whole world the chance to vote on any/every code change, or a dictator less benevolent than Wuille, then by all means start that. In an altcoin. Stop trying to install someone who's not Wuille or van der Laan, it's really unsubtle.
If anyone else wants to give the whole world the chance to vote on any/every code change, or a dictator less benevolent than Wuille, then by all means start that. In an altcoin. Stop trying to install someone who's not Wuille or van der Laan, it's really unsubtle.
January 14, 2016, 03:51:36 PM
The "Classic Party" is clearly the latest attempt to start another open party, inside this open party.....
Seriously? Censorship? Banning people for speaking an opinion? Petty rule making referring to BIPs as "altcoins"? And you want to know why nobody wants to hang out at your "Team Blockstream Open Party". 
January 14, 2016, 03:46:56 PM
The "Classic Party" is clearly the latest attempt to start another open party, inside this open party, with the usual charming calibre of cheerleaders. It will be the latest to fail.
The whole reason "Classic" is even needed as a "brand" is because the hijaaking of Bitcoin was so heavy handed and so filled with shilling FUD, manipulation, lies etc.... that it is the only way to allow people to understand what is going on, which is simply put....Bitcoin is about to undergo a simple "patch", or "software upgrade" if it please you. That is ALL that is happening. Nothing spooky, scary or out of the ordinary.
I mean, we're not all still running Windows 3.1. No.... Bill Gates had a vision, and it grew.
We're not still running Lisa OS (original Apple/Macintosh software). No.... Steve Jobs had a vision, and it grew.
And Satoshi had a vision - called Bitcoin, but Team Blockhead (Blockstream/Core) hijaaked it and wanted to freeze it in time, and cut its nuts off and profit off it.... put it in a box and control it.
Hell, if you guys had your way we'd still be sending messages by jungle drum, and you'd be trying to charge us for the sonic vibration. I am completely serious when I say that if the antics continue, I won't be surprised to see the entire bitcoin ecosystem turn against blockstream to the point that investors and customers shun them like the plague.
www.BitcoinClassic.com < upcoming upgrade/patch to Bitcoin, increases blocksize to 2mb. Simple. Clean.
January 14, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
The "Classic Party" is clearly the latest attempt to start another open party, inside this open party, with the usual charming calibre of cheerleaders. It will be the latest to fail.
January 14, 2016, 02:25:01 PM
It is pretty funny you believe the new Bitcoin will lead to more centralised direction, yet all your post has totalitarian view with a lot of censorship suggested to keep control in what you believe to be best for Bitcoin regardless of outside support - basically a tyran description. It is very surprising here are so many people with totalitarian view when Bitcoin is meant to be libertarian project instead...
Yes, you summarised it pretty succinctly there. They will never see the incongruity of condoning censorship in 'censorship resistant' Bitcoin. Indeed, a lot of the anger displayed by the likes of iCE, brg, et al. can be explained as being a result of the mental stress they suffer from this cognitive dissonance.
January 14, 2016, 12:45:02 PM
There's a party going on. Everyone's invited. Unless you don't like the party. In which case, the only rule is to leave, and throw your own party. You know, that great party you keep telling us about (but never lifting a finger to make it happen)
Oh quit whining. The Classic Party is open to everyone. It is planned, and it will happen. And you WILL come, or your bitcoins will die on an alt chain. So kick, scream, cry, threaten, whine, plot and whatever else you jerks want to do as you throw your "I'm in denial pity party"....But it is going to happen. Classic is not XT. It has Miner concensus. It has majority community super-majority concensus.
But the dirtier you play, the higher the risk the Blockstream Group doesn't survive the fork. People are sick of you.
Someone else will rise and pickup sidechain development once blockstream is gone. You're getting ready to learn a lesson in how NOT to act in an Open Source Society. You broke all the rules. There will be consequences.
January 14, 2016, 12:28:30 PM
I though all this was about the freedom of choice.
This is about easily manipulating the masses into the wrong direction. It's really ridiculous how you now quote satoshi while you ignored his message about scaling bitcoin to visa-level.
I would like to request that you show me where I stated something like that, my memory is a bit stuck. I have no idea what I have/might have said. I agree with scaling Bitcoin to a certain level, it just might be that I disagree with the method. Regardless, I'll wait for that link. January 14, 2016, 12:25:15 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/40v0dx/thank_you_mike_hearn/cyxmawe
I dont understand why coinbase was reinstated on bitcoin.org website. There are many reasons it should not be there.
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Bitcoin.org is giving Brian more influence while he encourages people not to use bitcoin.org and use alternative clients. Thats just stupid.
Nobody has some god given, inherent right to be promoted on Bitcoin.org.
I would take off Coinbase right now if I could. Brian is a very suspicious person, he would sell Bitcoin to the banks this very instant if he could. He deserves nothing and so does Coinbase until they change leadership.I dont understand why coinbase was reinstated on bitcoin.org website. There are many reasons it should not be there.
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Bitcoin.org is giving Brian more influence while he encourages people not to use bitcoin.org and use alternative clients. Thats just stupid.
Nobody has some god given, inherent right to be promoted on Bitcoin.org.
I though all this was about the freedom of choice.
I don't believe a second, compatible implementation of Bitcoin will ever be a good idea.
It's really ridiculous how you now quote satoshi while you ignored his message about scaling bitcoin to visa-level.
January 14, 2016, 12:19:51 PM
January 14, 2016, 12:11:49 PM
The opposition to your left- and rightwing collectivist fronts are the anarchists. We are spitting at the door of the stadium.
Anarchists don't advocate for governance coups led by expressed enemies of liberty (as variously expressed by all the latest dead-beat-dead-wood failed-bitcoin-dev coup-mongers.)
So don't spit at my gate, tell me it's the gate to some fantasy stadium and that you're here with your thinning mob of morons to break in and ruin the household inside.
And definitely don't tell me that makes you the anarchist: that makes you the communists.
There's a party going on. Everyone's invited. Unless you don't like the party. In which case, the only rule is to leave, and throw your own party. You know, that great party you keep telling us about (but never lifting a finger to make it happen)
January 14, 2016, 11:45:26 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/40v0dx/thank_you_mike_hearn/cyxmawe
I dont understand why coinbase was reinstated on bitcoin.org website. There are many reasons it should not be there.
-snip-
Bitcoin.org is giving Brian more influence while he encourages people not to use bitcoin.org and use alternative clients. Thats just stupid.
Nobody has some god given, inherent right to be promoted on Bitcoin.org.
I would take off Coinbase right now if I could. Brian is a very suspicious person, he would sell Bitcoin to the banks this very instant if he could. He deserves nothing and so does Coinbase until they change leadership.I dont understand why coinbase was reinstated on bitcoin.org website. There are many reasons it should not be there.
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Bitcoin.org is giving Brian more influence while he encourages people not to use bitcoin.org and use alternative clients. Thats just stupid.
Nobody has some god given, inherent right to be promoted on Bitcoin.org.
Oh and let me just leave this here in regards to alternative clients: Satoshi on diversity:
I don't believe a second, compatible implementation of Bitcoin will ever be a good idea.
January 14, 2016, 10:57:59 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/40v0dx/thank_you_mike_hearn/cyxmawe
I dont understand why coinbase was reinstated on bitcoin.org website. There are many reasons it should not be there.
Its CEO is actively pushing and promoting a contentious governance coup that would be bad for Bitcoin. It would lead it into a more centralised direction. Coinbase is a company that due to its business model has no choice but to slavishly follow the most influential and therefore the most threatening to bitcoin, government in the world.
The people running bitcoin.org share that sentiment yet they choose to promote it. Its bad for Bitcoin. They need to act in what they believe are the best interests of Bitcoin. Removing it is acting in the best interest of Bitcoin.
Bitcoin.org is giving Brian more influence while he encourages people not to use bitcoin.org and use alternative clients. Thats just stupid.
Nobody has some god given, inherent right to be promoted on Bitcoin.org.
Quote from: Brian Armstrong
Agreed, Mike is awesome! I hope he returns some day once a new fork has taken over that is making good decisions.
I dont understand why coinbase was reinstated on bitcoin.org website. There are many reasons it should not be there.
Its CEO is actively pushing and promoting a contentious governance coup that would be bad for Bitcoin. It would lead it into a more centralised direction. Coinbase is a company that due to its business model has no choice but to slavishly follow the most influential and therefore the most threatening to bitcoin, government in the world.
The people running bitcoin.org share that sentiment yet they choose to promote it. Its bad for Bitcoin. They need to act in what they believe are the best interests of Bitcoin. Removing it is acting in the best interest of Bitcoin.
Bitcoin.org is giving Brian more influence while he encourages people not to use bitcoin.org and use alternative clients. Thats just stupid.
Nobody has some god given, inherent right to be promoted on Bitcoin.org.
It is pretty funny you believe the new Bitcoin will lead to more centralised direction, yet all your post has totalitarian view with a lot of censorship suggested to keep control in what you believe to be best for Bitcoin regardless of outside support - basically a tyran description. It is very surprising here are so many people with totalitarian view when Bitcoin is meant to be libertarian project instead...
January 14, 2016, 10:01:37 AM
Its CEO is actively pushing and promoting a contentious governance coup that would be bad for Bitcoin.
bitcoin.org's actions show a petulant and child-like thought process that is endemic in bitcoin at the moment. That does need to change.
I dont think the change will be as contentious as you believe - common sense usually breaks out in cases such as this.
www.BitcoinClassic.com is most likely going to breeze through exceptionally quickly due to the level of support that exists, and once "triggered" I agree that most everyone will quietly put their heads down and jump onboard. But I am still dumbfounded at the level of open betrayal and dictatorlike qualities that Blockstream Players have demonstrated. I'm beginnning to think that they may look at this as a life or death war. Their credibility has not only been destroyed in the greater Bitcoin Community - they are seriously damaging their brand, AND they seem to actually be doubling down.
I hope that aside from simple coding, technical planning, that people are preparing a media response to any massive FUD breakouts, or price crash attempts. I don't put anything past Blockstream/Core Players at this point.
I personally will look at this as a possible buying opportunity, but I am also concerned a Fiat Coin release could piggy back into position in the midst of intentionally created "impression" of chaos. While I feel positive, I also feel nervous. I'm getting that from others too.
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