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Topic: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] - page 131. (Read 625666 times)

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legendary
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apologies smooth and delete this if it offends

1. You don't need to apologize for offending me if desired. Candor is welcome.

2. This is not a self-moderated thread, so I can't delete anything. See #1

Thank you for the words of support.

I'd also add to what you said the usual cliche about open source projects. This is not a company and you are not a customer. If you think something should be done then step forward and do it (or don't, but don't expect whining and entitlement to be taken seriously).

BTW, hash rate almost 2 million.
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i'm w/ Him! (Cryptophilanthropist)

i pool with him, i play the patience game like him, and i watch it run now after a long time.  and i say: "u go Smooth". anyone doesn't like? let 'em eat cake!

 Grin Shocked Lips sealed
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To those who have not been involved here on a regular basis or spent the time to read through this threads' history, all of the recent questions regarding "development progress" have already been answered over the course of Aeon's evolution. I understand where Aeon is headed and how it will get there only because I put in the time and effort to read and participate. There is no TL;DR to be found here.

Aeon is what it is, a lightweight cryptonote which implements all of the best traits of other cryptonotes, in the end, it will win out over other networks. See http://www.aeon.cash/ for summary if you haven't. And this is not the end all be all for Aeon......

GUI wallet, lightning net, pruned chain, mobile, optional non-anonymous tx's..... why wouldn't you let others get it wrong so that you can get it right? Let it get done right...in time, so that it works right! Being first almost never means being the best, history proves this.

Understand (and I'm taking liberties here) that people like Smooth don't really have the patience to hold the hands of those that can't connect the dots and don't really care if you can't, sorry just the way it is (apologies smooth and delete this if it offends) 99.9% of you don't even know the dots are there! ....ahh that feels better....

Rant ends here: Follow, believe, or get out of the way .... but don't throw stones if you live in a glass house! Because I'd bet my last AEON that those to whom I am referring to here have no interest in the final product to come, but only in what short sighted gains can be made through poorly thought out provocations ....won't work.

Thank you Smooth for everything you have done and will do for a really cool project that I am proud to be a part of and whose success I believe in!





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The price on AEON has been going up slowly but fairly steady over the last couple of weeks. I think it's doing ok right now myself. I would really like to see a nice GUI wallet, since that would be a convenience for pretty much everyone and would help to get less technically inclined people to try it out. Other then that wallet issue I personally have no complaints with this coin.
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I got your point. And you know what? Yes, I'm moving on.

It's dead Jim..
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Good that you're still on the radar but come on, what plan and direction we have. There hasn't been any significant improvement in maybe 2 years:

Maybe you could start by not trolling? How have I been off the radar when my last post on the thread was one week before your post?

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So be honest with the community and open up the development to more people.

The development is open to anyone. Proposals can be made and if they are accepted and completed they will be paid a bounty from the donations fund. Or alternately if good work is done I may just pay out from the fund even without prior agreement (for example, this was done for the person who ported the xmr-stak miner).

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If you are busy, involved elsewhere there are people out there that would be dedicated fulltime devs and for much less than you would (see your comment regarding funding). I believe the devs from India or Eastern Europe can deliver high quality code and maintain the coin well for much less - maybe 1BTC per month, which is like 6k AEON. It would improve the visibility and bring more people, raising the price.

My experience with coin development (and other open source development on a limited budget), as well as other development where that approach is more effective, does not suggest that is a good approach at this time to help AEON.

I have no doubt such an approach could be used to crank out some of the items you mentioned but then what? It does not result in a sustainable path. It works if you want to hype a clone for a little while, dump it, and then move on to the next one. This is especially endemic in the cryptonote segment, probably by the same one or two developers using different nicks.

How many coins have we seen launch with some minor gloss features, only to be abandoned once the hype fades? That isn't the way forward for AEON.

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I was holding a large amount of coins ages ago and got rid of it. I'm still holding some and wish all the best to this amazing little monero twin. But to me it seems like you left it alone and it sits there in the dust being overlooked.

It sounds like you are bored and looking for more excitement. in that case hopping to the latest clone to launch may be a good strategy for you.
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1. Yes I'm still here.

2. The donations fund is about 450K AEON. At current market prices (which are very volatile), that's about 135 000 USD, assuming it could all be sold without crashing the market, which is unlikely. Can you pay a development team for that? No (well at least not for long). Can you pay bounties for some work? Yes, and we have done so for various things like mining and pool software. (Also offered for web site development but that was done for free.) I'm happy to offer more bounties if people step forward to do work. Failing that I'm happy to continue holding the coins in case they become worth enough to actually fund a good development effort. Will that ever happen? Who knows.

3. I'm reminded of Charlie Lee telling us a while back that LTC didn't need 'features' (at a time when coins were always trying to one up each other on features to capture market interest). He was right. Most of those coins are gone and LTC is still here (and at its own pace and in its own way is getting features too). Likewise, AEON is still here. We may not have all the features but we have a coin that works, where security and maintenance releases get made when necessary to keep it working. We have a good community. In time we will likely get our features too, at our own time and in our own way.

4. I wish any other coins (cryptonote or otherwise) the best with their projects but what they do is their business. We have our own plan and direction.

Good that you're still on the radar but come on, what plan and direction we have. There hasn't been any significant improvement in maybe 2 years:

Mobile-friendly PoW and block time (released) <- would require mobile friendly miner/wallet
GUI wallet (in progress) <- let's be honest no progress at all
32-bit and ARM support (released, but requires low memory footprint below) <- reference to other enhancement
Low memory footprint (in progress) <- most important for every miner/user/exchange. No improvement since beginning
Signature trimming <- nothing
Blockchain pruning (test release available) <- feature implemented, but pretty much useless
Multisig and payment channels (instant payments) <- definitely not in place

So be honest with the community and open up the development to more people. If you are busy, involved elsewhere there are people out there that would be dedicated fulltime devs and for much less than you would (see your comment regarding funding). I believe the devs from India or Eastern Europe can deliver high quality code and maintain the coin well for much less - maybe 1BTC per month, which is like 6k AEON. It would improve the visibility and bring more people, raising the price.

I was holding a large amount of coins ages ago and got rid of it. I'm still holding some and wish all the best to this amazing little monero twin. But to me it seems like you left it alone and it sits there in the dust being overlooked.
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1. Yes I'm still here.

2. The donations fund is about 450K AEON. At current market prices (which are very volatile), that's about 135 000 USD, assuming it could all be sold without crashing the market, which is unlikely. Can you pay a development team for that? No (well at least not for long). Can you pay bounties for some work? Yes, and we have done so for various things like mining and pool software. (Also offered for web site development but that was done for free.) I'm happy to offer more bounties if people step forward to do work. Failing that I'm happy to continue holding the coins in case they become worth enough to actually fund a good development effort. Will that ever happen? Who knows.

3. I'm reminded of Charlie Lee telling us a while back that LTC didn't need 'features' (at a time when coins were always trying to one up each other on features to capture market interest). He was right. Most of those coins are gone and LTC is still here (and at its own pace and in its own way is getting features too). Likewise, AEON is still here. We may not have all the features but we have a coin that works, where security and maintenance releases get made when necessary to keep it working. We have a good community. In time we will likely get our features too, at our own time and in our own way.

4. I wish any other coins (cryptonote or otherwise) the best with their projects but what they do is their business. We have our own plan and direction.

lol, really?
legendary
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1. Yes I'm still here.

2. The donations fund is about 450K AEON. At current market prices (which are very volatile), that's about 135 000 USD, assuming it could all be sold without crashing the market, which is unlikely. Can you pay a development team for that? No (well at least not for long). Can you pay bounties for some work? Yes, and we have done so for various things like mining and pool software. (Also offered for web site development but that was done for free.) I'm happy to offer more bounties if people step forward to do work. Failing that I'm happy to continue holding the coins in case they become worth enough to actually fund a good development effort. Will that ever happen? Who knows.

3. I'm reminded of Charlie Lee telling us a while back that LTC didn't need 'features' (at a time when coins were always trying to one up each other on features to capture market interest). He was right. Most of those coins are gone and LTC is still here (and at its own pace and in its own way is getting features too). Likewise, AEON is still here. We may not have all the features but we have a coin that works, where security and maintenance releases get made when necessary to keep it working. We have a good community. In time we will likely get our features too, at our own time and in our own way.

4. I wish any other coins (cryptonote or otherwise) the best with their projects but what they do is their business. We have our own plan and direction.
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If you are using simplewallet just type "balance" in the wallet and it will show how many coins. If you are solo mining it will take allot longer to find any coins, so it may just show 0 for quite awhile.
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I will try this, why not ...?
But how do i see how many coins i have when mining solo?
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Aeon seem to be suffering from lack of dev resources - missing GUI, missing db integration. Prunning is no option for an exchange, for users missing GUI wallet can be serious disadvantage.
As smooth holds a serious stake in a development fund I suggest to invest larger sum into the further enhancements. For example other cryptonight coin Karbovanec has a nice GUI, sumokoin that was recently released has db backend.. I'm sure there are developers with skills but they won't work for free.

While Aeon is reaching all time high every other day, how about growing the team and offering some bounties?

There is a significant hashing power on the network, do we know where it is concentrated? Funding multiple pools to spread the hashing power is also good thing to do.

@smooth: I know you've been having some hard times, but are you still with us? Do you plan to invest your time or significant amount from the fund into all above?

very quiet here...
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Aeon seem to be suffering from lack of dev resources - missing GUI, missing db integration. Prunning is no option for an exchange, for users missing GUI wallet can be serious disadvantage.
As smooth holds a serious stake in a development fund I suggest to invest larger sum into the further enhancements. For example other cryptonight coin Karbovanec has a nice GUI, sumokoin that was recently released has db backend.. I'm sure there are developers with skills but they won't work for free.

While Aeon is reaching all time high every other day, how about growing the team and offering some bounties?

There is a significant hashing power on the network, do we know where it is concentrated? Funding multiple pools to spread the hashing power is also good thing to do.

@smooth: I know you've been having some hard times, but are you still with us? Do you plan to invest your time or significant amount from the fund into all above?
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Hello, how to create AEON wallet please help
пpивeт , кaк coздaть AEON кoшeлёк пoмoгитe пoжaлyйcтa


You can follow the instructions here --- https://minergate.com/faq/how-to-create-aeon-wallet --- Make sure to have the aeond.exe finish synchronizing before starting simplewallet.exe (it will say you may now start simplewallet when it is ready). It will take some time to synchronize fully.
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Hello, how to create AEON wallet please help
пpивeт , кaк coздaть AEON кoшeлёк пoмoгитe пoжaлyйcтa
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This coin is so undervalued right now.

Has there been any press or promotion of it lately?

Appreciate any links thrown my way.



I agree, though most of us mining this coin for fun rather than expecting huge profits

2.6 USD/coin currently is not bad at all Cheesy
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This coin is so undervalued right now.

Has there been any press or promotion of it lately?

Appreciate any links thrown my way.



I agree, though most of us mining this coin for fun rather than expecting huge profits
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