Topic: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] - page 22. (Read 625768 times)

@smooth. You have been one of the oldest developers of altcoin projects in the cryptospace. What is your view on infinite inflation and the welcoming of Asics for a cryptocoin? Would it not end similar to the diamond market where miners agree to hold supply to create artificial scarcity and manipulate the cryptocoin's price?

I also talked to tromp about this.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53774417

The RPC pay system is basically meaningful only for coins with CPU mineable (i.e., ASIC resistant) PoW algorithms. CPU mining in AEON is no longer profitable after the fork, so the RPC pay system makes little sense.

I'm also a bit skeptical about the actual effectiveness of the RPC pay system in general, even for Monero. For someone running a node and offering goods and services with the RPC pay system, he'd need to wait for a long time while continuously serving lots of customers before seeing the actual income (a solo-mined block). The income frequency can be higher for some very large and popular operators (like the top mining pools), but not so much for small businesses.

Also from the customer's point of view, especially in the context of using a remote public node, I think it'll be quite cumbersome to have to top up some credits (by mining) before being able to use the node. Noobs will cry "I don't want to wait!" and there'll be someone willing to offer public nodes without requiring any RPC payment.

We'll see if the RPC payment really proves to be useful or not.

@smooth @stoffu. I reckon Aeon cannot follow and copy this recent development from Monero anymore.

https://www.monerooutreach.org/stories/RPC-Pay.html

I reckon that more public nodes might be needed to meet the demand if we are lucky enough to have more investors, adopters in the next bull market.

Huh? that quote was from 2014....

Aeon has been able to CPU mine solo on CLI and GUI since before Ryo was even a project, and before sumo was even a project that forked from Monero. Solo POOL mine, no. GPU mining is fun but its very inefficient. Aeon is all about efficiency and lightness. Mosu is a good guy, have known him for a while and he created the electron GUI wallet everyone forked to their own coin projects to copypasta. He did good work on it. Very unfortunate that very few people even gave him credit outside Ryo project for his work on that, they just copy paste and say they made it for their project. Nobody even changed the coin headers in the json files they were so lazy., you look at the files and search for "ryo" in them and yea.... If I were to see a project where a dev did that it would be an immediate turnoff as it shows they are too lazy to modify everything because its time-consuming. Take ownership of your copypasta work....

Aeon on the other hand, stoffu works(worked) with monero on monero code and also aeon code and same for smooth, and moo. It's a small ecosystem but people give and take here and there.

You are missing to see Ryocurrency while talking about Cryptonote coins, you should check by yourself it has unique features and they have did a lot of work on code improvement even it's algorithm Cryptonight-GPU is one of the best and used by other crypto projects also, First GUI wallet with the solo-mining feature was another good point to look at when you are talking about development.
I know most projects are copypasta but there are also some good ones that we can underestimate.

third

I agree, but overall Aeon is not isolated, benefiting greatly from the proximity of moreno.
it is really what confers its supplementary value.
this does not reduce the quality of the devs, i.e. giving it presently a real life to the coin.

AEON have miraculously survived the ups and downs of the cryptocurrency space these past years and still going strong. Some other projects that raised funds via ICO and IEO have gone down the drain with investors funds, unfortunately. I'm so proud of the development team.

I concur largely to your idea.

I am reading this article about bitcoin's user interface and how it is still hard for most ordinary people to use or get used to. I reckon a small altcoin like us can be nimble and experiment on solutions that create an easier  user experience? This might bring us some advantage.

https://www.longhash.com/en/news/3256

No node is "self discoverable" on the GUI wallet but there is entry slots to manually put and IP and port. I believe wallets like Cake Wallet have pre-listed nodes and my electron wallet puts a default to hashvault I believe now since he always has his online.

If you're ok I'll post up your node on the discord list under the #resources tab like the others. I don't get on here often but am on discord daily so if you PM me I'll add your node.

Likewise, anyone can run that scraper tool I posted and it will scrape for those with open ports. If the users are not using default ports it will not pick up their node iirc.

Are current aeon nodes self discoverable for lightweight wallets? If no, here is new one from me. It is on quite powerful long-term vps, so I hope it would help network a bit.

144.91.94.65:11181

@bigslimvdub. The people who used to run them might have already dumped their coins and may never come back.

In any case, I suggest a proposal for the community to have more public nodes online and paid for from the community fund if needed.

Yes hopefully include Aeon.

The tool wasn't written by me, I just forked it and adapted to the current Aeon network and added some extras in the readme for setup and use. I run it about once a month on my public node that gets many many nodes attached to it so I can get larger list of those with open RPC for remote node use. It's a bummer we used to have 20-30 open nodes on that list before v13.0. I hope they will come back someday but we also have lost many other services since the fork.

IIRC it was Ginger from Monero that wrote everything for that script. Nice work from her, a good asset to the project.

I wish I have more merits for you, thank you. This list and your tool will become very useful for quicker wallet access for newbies when the bull market begins moving to the smaller projects.

That includes Aeon hopefully hehehehe.

 
You can mine Aeon at autoexchange mining pool Zergpool.com at 0.5% fee. Please use following commands for different mining options
 
Option 1 Auto coin switch mining by profitability within algorithm with autoexchange to specified coin wallet(BTC in example below)
Option 2 Direct coin mining with payout to coin wallet
Option 3 Direct coin mining with autoexchange to specified coin wallet(BTC in example below)
Please note mc stands for mining coin symbol, c stand for payout coin symbol

Autoexchange to BTC, LTC, DASH, BCH, DOGE or any other currency we mine
Happy mining,
 cheers pinpin

Also, a current open node list is available using the tool here I forked and modified for Aeon: https://github.com/AEONCommunity/AeonNodeScraper

Very easy to build and run. You just need 2 daemons and modify the folder locations of your files in the moneriote.sh and run the scraper to find all open nodes for Aeon that have connected to your daemon.

Public Node List:
fastpool.xyz:11181
nodes.hashvault.pro:11181
163.172.8.20:11181
142.93.6.81:11181
95.216.145.71:11181
148.251.178.238:11181
154.16.67.74:11181
139.180.175.63:11181
3.14.4.25:11181
207.180.216.126:11181

Make sure you do pacman -Syu before trying to build after installing all the libs needed on msys.

I built 13.1 on windows 10 no issues and I have no issues sending via windows 10 release or personally built binaries using local node and my remote node.


The tx issue sounds like its a remote or local node that is not updated is used when wallet is connecting. If on cli open wallet and run bc_height. If the output is not the same as the known current block height its the reason TX's get lost or dont show up. You may need to open the daemon window in GUI (or use cli) and type in sync_info and see if one of your connected nodes is way behind. On my daemon I found one connected at block height: 599120. You can ban IP's with way outdated daemons as well with the ban (ip) command example- (ban 1.1.1.1) and ban those outdated daemons. Also, run flush_txpool and clean that up. Then if on GUI just run the wallet rescan feature or if on CLI run rescan_bc to refresh everything and make sure you did not miss the TX for some reason.
Worse comes to worst you can delete the wallet file and restore from seed and it should pick everything up as long as you are attached to an updated daemon. Just make sure you have seed/keys saved somewhere or written down before or your SOL.

Additional Daemon command info here: https://github.com/AEONCommunity/CLI-Usage/blob/master/Daemon%20commands.md
Additional Wallet command info here: https://github.com/AEONCommunity/CLI-Usage/blob/master/Wallet%20cli.md
Additional testing info and building info can be found here: https://github.com/AEONCommunity/TesterCentral

Also, Aeon was listed on Altilly exchange: https://www.altilly.com/market/AEON_BTC

thank you stoffu
not so easy, beginning with problems to update msys2.

Building the CLI on Windows isn't hard, just follow the instruction here: https://github.com/aeonix/aeon#on-windows

Anyway, here's the binary I've built for you:
(signing key: https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/blob/master/utils/gpg_keys/stoffu.asc)

If you found a problem in the software, please provide more details (e.g. how to reproduce it). Also, generally it's easier to discuss this kind of development-related stuff on GitHub (https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/issues/new).