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Topic: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] - page 19. (Read 625621 times)

legendary
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@smooth. I did not mean make blocks smaller. Make blocks more efficient for the data utilizing the space outside of the space for transactions.

Also, is the research lab working on something like this on Monero?
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@bigslimvdub. I am supportive of Monero, however, have you tried running a node after RingCT update? Syncing it became harder and it might not be sustainable for longterm. Bullet proofs reduced the size of blocks, however. But still bigger than before RingCT.

@smooth. Is there more possibilty for Aeon to reduce the size of blocks?

Yes someone had done a Comparison for Aeon as is block size and then RingCT average block size and then ringCT + BP avg block size. I don’t recall specifically but I believe that if integrating both at the same time the median size was smaller than current. But that would be before increased use of the chain (more tx per block) where it would end up being larger than just keeping as is and scaling. Unfortunately you can’t use just BP at this time hence why I remember stoffu saying just leave it as is until there is a better solution that’s also more efficient/less bloat.

@smooth - did you ever get around to any ideas how to prevent or help mitigate diff changes from large hash rate dropoffs?
legendary
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I don't know of any way to make the blocks smaller at this time.

legendary
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@bigslimvdub. I am supportive of Monero, however, have you tried running a node after RingCT update? Syncing it became harder and it might not be sustainable for longterm. Bullet proofs reduced the size of blocks, however. But still bigger than before RingCT.

@smooth. Is there more possibilty for Aeon to reduce the size of blocks?
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@bigslimvdub. Hehehe. Also, Aeon might be the answer for the balancing of privacy and scaling. In retrospect, we made the correct decision not including RingCT.

At first I was on the monero train but then I stood back and looked at real world every day use and it doesn’t make sense unless you are looking for ultimate privacy. Imo the only reason you would need that kind of privacy is if your doing something illegal. I’m not saying everyone who uses monero does so for illegal purposes but outside that, who cares how many coins are moving on the chain if you don’t know where they are going to or where they are coming from. It’s interesting to analyze aeon movements but really I could care less if I knew who was doing it or not. It really adds a ton of bloat to the chain which in turn slows down full syncs which sometimes are needed ie: blockchain corruption.
legendary
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@bigslimvdub. Hehehe. Also, Aeon might be the answer for the balancing of privacy and scaling. In retrospect, we made the correct decision not including RingCT.
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Hey. How can I view the balance and transactions of AEON wallet at its address. Bitcoin balance can be viewed at https://www.blockchain.com/explorer?view=btc_blocks. What about the AEON wallet balance? I found a wallet archive for 2017. I want to see the balance and whether it makes sense to restore the wallet. Thanks.

You need to download the software and open the wallet. There is no way to see a balance in a public explorer.

Oh the benifits of cryptonote
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legendary
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Hey. How can I view the balance and transactions of AEON wallet at its address. Bitcoin balance can be viewed at https://www.blockchain.com/explorer?view=btc_blocks. What about the AEON wallet balance? I found a wallet archive for 2017. I want to see the balance and whether it makes sense to restore the wallet. Thanks.

You need to download the software and open the wallet. There is no way to see a balance in a public explorer.
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Hey. How can I view the balance and transactions of AEON wallet at its address. Bitcoin balance can be viewed at https://www.blockchain.com/explorer?view=btc_blocks. What about the AEON wallet balance? I found a wallet archive for 2017. I want to see the balance and whether it makes sense to restore the wallet. Thanks.
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@smooth. Zergpool has more than 51% of the hashrate. Consider that and this more than 3x pump, the skeptical me is suspecting that we might be under attack. Is this possible? Should we tell Bittrex and Tradeogre to stop deposits?

80%+ has been on one pool with aeon for 2 years, the ASICS were one owner but then they split the hash 3 ways but same idea. It’s nothing odd going on here. Check on your daemon with alt_chain_info and see if there are any long chains. Typically there is one or two with 1-2 blocks. No big deal.


@smooth, I’m still interested in your concept ideas for diff adjustment post hash rate drop off.
legendary
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@smooth. Zergpool has more than 51% of the hashrate. Consider that and this more than 3x pump, the skeptical me is suspecting that we might be under attack. Is this possible? Should we tell Bittrex and Tradeogre to stop deposits?
legendary
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We don't get to choose whether people mine with FPGAs or ASICs. The coin price and characteristics inherent in the technology and mining hardware determine it.


I think people mine with whatever is available and makes sense to them.

Yes, we're saying the same thing.
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We don't get to choose whether people mine with FPGAs or ASICs. The coin price and characteristics inherent in the technology and mining hardware determine it.


I think people mine with whatever is available and makes sense to them.
legendary
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We don't get to choose whether people mine with FPGAs or ASICs. The coin price and characteristics inherent in the technology determine it.
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@bigslimvdub. However, no.5 might be Aeon's only chance for longterm survival similar to what occured on bitcoin. Also, without the mining industry that supports a cryptocoin, I reckon mass adoption would be impossible. There has to be assurance on longterm security.

I do really enjoy this $200 fpga. It uses little electricity (45w), it’s silent in the corner of my office, it incredibly stable so I can set and forget for a month, there is no maintenance, it can run 15 algos bits are written for, and it paid for itself in 6 months on k12. After using this I really look back at the blunders of running multiple gpu rigs and cpu mining that now make absolutely no sense why they are used to mine crypto. I would be content with a asic like device as well. Something with maybe 4-8 chips with low heat and low power consumption running k12 24/7.

It’s affordable things like this that make people want to be a part of the network.
legendary
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@bigslimvdub. However, no.5 might be Aeon's only chance for longterm survival similar to what occured on bitcoin. Also, without the mining industry that supports a cryptocoin, I reckon mass adoption would be impossible. There has to be assurance on longterm security.
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What is wrong with poorly_timed_legolas? I remembered that he was a very loyal and passionate Aeon holder before. He did not approve of our new roadmap on Asics?

He was very against asic support since it’s proven to be centralized. With sha3 it lowers the bar for asic development requirements so in actuality it could “potentially” be decentralized.

To truly be decentralized with ASICS though, you need many manufacturers building ASICS for that algo. Even if sha3 is very easy to develop, it does not mean it’s monetarily positive to do so and could lead to, again, centralized ASICS running a network.

What I’ve noticed with fpga on Aeon is:
1- they don’t gaf about the coin or network they just want their monies
2- they will mine on the pool with the best support for mining to maximize gains
3- if you’re nice to farm operators and pool ops supporting them, they tend to do the same to you
4- unlike ASICS, if there are no other coins with your algo, diff bombs will happen when profit switching changes the algo of their farm. ASICS are pretty much stuck on whatever they are for. Code changes could alleviate this but it makes no sense if you plan to use #5
5- ASICS on k12 would be better than fpga due to #4 but cost may be a factor for “hobby miners” where a manufacturer would need to make tiered devices to allow everyone to participate.

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@bigslimvdub. It might not be a random pump. The whale is buying up to now and supporting the price hehe.

In any case, do we have a hardfork about to occur? Also, where can we find some data on Aeon's hashrate?

There is no hardfork planned at this time.

Explorers are listed on the web site and will show estimated hash rate, but of course that is always an imperfect estimate.

Aeon victim of an attack ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/fwffv6/puemp_eet/

Difficulty going up when people start mining isn't really an attack but it can still be annoying when it takes a long time to come back down. Anyway, it did come back down, and everything is working fine now. I have some ideas how to improve this so maybe in a future update it can be.

Yes please elaborate since it’s been a known issue for at least 3 years now.
legendary
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@bigslimvdub. It might not be a random pump. The whale is buying up to now and supporting the price hehe.

In any case, do we have a hardfork about to occur? Also, where can we find some data on Aeon's hashrate?

There is no hardfork planned at this time.

Explorers are listed on the web site and will show estimated hash rate, but of course that is always an imperfect estimate.

Aeon victim of an attack ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/fwffv6/puemp_eet/


What is wrong with poorly_timed_legolas? I remembered that he was a very loyal and passionate Aeon holder before. He did not approve of our new roadmap on Asics?
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