Topic: [ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | CPU+GPU+Masternode | PHP Based |Decentralized Revolution - page 10. (Read 71590 times)

that is highly possible. unfortunately we don't have proofs but still if someone has the benefit of not paying while using electricity, cloud services, etc. i wouldn't consider it cheating. i would just consider this individual super lucky....printing money for free

U can remove that and sponge away ur service along with ur sites and server metadata. I will think of taking everything over and revitalizing the core of the crypto essence. Everything will need to be updated, and my connections need to be refreshed too. Otherwise it would be too hard to keep pace and hold the position of a serious contender in this space let along other arrangements.

funny stories...
purchasing coins straight from the exchange or thru escrow you'll get at lest 30% more coins than if you'll mining with aws rented powers.
This is just another cloud cheater who do not pay for rented power.
that's all

On this price, its not profitable whether you mine it with your own machines or renting cloud services.....unless you don't pay for electricity or the cloud services themselves.

Lol. I'll tell you one secret.
mining Arionum on AWS rented power isn't profitable.
Just one more cloud cheater is raping network and legit miners

If it makes you feel any better, the high hash rate is actually being recorded because on GPU blocks, CPU hashrate increases, but it also means that CPU's are competing with GPU's, something you well know they cannot do as well.

So in theory, his actual speed is probably only about a tenth of this

Round 2
Fight 

well if you have the money to rent Amazon then i guess you can do dat

WTF is that shit on HashPi pool?
fckng cloud cheaters, diff almost doubled after this shit has appeared at hashpi pool.

So maybe this is a dumb question, but why is it called a cpu block if hash rate is lowered on both the cpu and gpu?  I assumed this system was put in place to make cpu miners equal to gpu, but if the performance increases on both for gpu blocks, and decreases for both on cpu blocks, what is the point?!

We are happy to announce that we have just reached block 100.000
Please find below some information about the ARO network, 10 months after genesis.
Transactions: 1.762.801
Wallets: 12.630
Masternodes: 267
Thank you for the constant support! We will continue to innovate in the same way!

We are pleased to inform you that we have received the confirmation that Arionum will be listed on Cryptopia.
The fee has been paid and we are now waiting for the listing.
However, as ARO requires a special interface, they couldn't provide any ETA regarding the integration. Expect it to take a while.

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xberg
Congratulations, I'm too lazy to overcome captcha (will cost just 7 cents a day btw )
Will you add API to your calc or should I just remove ARO from my (free) service? Of course I can use pool data to calc everything myself, but again, too lazy, and ARO is not profitable, so it's hanging by a thread...

Yes, because its not an issue when its an organic dump from the mass, but when its a sole individual responsible for a majority of the dump and the dev was aware of it but did nothing to curtail the act then it becomes a problem 

Yes, because nobody in the history of Cryptocurrency has ever bought a coin that went down in value after buying.   

  The truth is the admin took their time coming up with a decision (that's according to you, cos we not sure its not a case of collusion) you can't even pinpoint your time frame.

  The truth is the project maintained a really strong stability (wall) of 1k at octaex till the aforementioned individual came into play
  The truth is the individual's activity/addresses are well discussed topics on discord and the members were vocal about a need for change while we watch the strong support created at 1k, gets destroyed all the way down to 200sat before an action was taken.

  The truth is the admin was vocal about supporting an unknown exchange that turned around and pulled an exit scam which ended up costing your investors several hundred thousand in loss.
  The truth is the exchange currently has 2 million coins waiting to dump on the market
  The truth is that you currently fostering an attempt that might recreate the same scenario under some bs freedom of speech act, and you want to use established exchanges as an excuse for that. I would think that after your last shill of an unknown exchange which cost your investors several hundred thousand in loss, you would at least refrain from lending support/blocking any attempt to promote an exchange that wasn't already established.

  And since the address of the dumper is well documented on discord, the truth is we can easily verify that this guy currently own enough coins to control the value of this project for a really long time.

  As for abuse of algo quip, i would say i meant more like abuse of limitation to the algo, you can't create a decentralized platform and knowingly allow an individual to control over 50% of hashrate in such a platform without doing anything for awhile to limit it. Again all we wanted was a proactive solution similar to what monero admin did when they knew an asic that will destroy the value was eminent.

  So basically the only thing i don't have proof for that i have stated, is the subject of a possible collusion. And mind you i always said investigated for collusion, not locked up for collusion. Emphasis on investigated. So, comparing a libel/harassment case to collusion in the financial sector is like comparing a misdemeanor charge to a felony charge. So that answers your question on who is the better person.

  None of my post is meant to stop ARO, if am not mistaken, there are still ppl currently trading bitconnect. Not that Aro is on par with that bullshit, but just saying that opinion won't stop ppl from trading. My opinion is meant to provide the full picture for someone investigating the project, that way they can make a well rounded decision.

  So, take care and like always no matter how irritated my post might make you feel, its nothing compared to how those "get a life" early investors felt watching their investment wither to nothing. Not due to an organic dump but mostly due to a sole acct that achieved the feat from a lack of action from the admin.

Be my guest and provide the community on BTCT with actual solid hard proof that we did nothing instead of what YOU believe happened.

"but truthful comment about the project." - truth in your eyes without any proof.

And your comment about me "fostering" other attempts at getting exchanges recognised, how do you think HitBTC started out, Cryptopia, Binance, all the others, and those discussions were in a channel specifically designed for those particular type of discussions.

You carry on thinking we did nothing, had nothing to lose, I suppose our time invested into the project and the community was also false?

You say we would be investigated for "collusion", in the "real world" you could be charged with libel and harassment, so who's the better person here?

Things go wrong, it's a fact of life. But your relentless blame game is simply unfounded and your own opinion.

Finally, "abuse of algo" - completely made up allegation because someone gained high hash rates via cloud instances, whether legally or not, we can't prove how these miners (and yes I mean plural) got their hashing speeds so high, but I myself could spin up over 1 m/h of GPU if I wanted to, completely and utterly legitimately, does that mean I am "abusing the algo"?

Keep bumping this post, keep spouting your opinions, you aren't going to stop ARO, we will continue to concentrate our efforts on making the project a strong and sensible option, no matter what you say.

We didn't take "months", it was 2 months max  Please don;t quote me on that "2 months"

 Jesus you are relentless in your BS statements, get a life rather than blame us for your early investment that went south!!!!!!
 
 All we asked for, was a proactive approach to protect your early investor (yes those ppl that believed in you from the start) similar to what monero admin did when it was confirmed that an asic miner which would have killed the coin value was about to be released. Rather the admin took their sweet time coming up with a decision while a lone individual gained over 50% control of the hashrate in a decentralized project and earned enough to dump the coin from a solid stable price of 1k to 200sat. Also this individual gained enough coins to guarantee that he will control the value of the coin for a really long time( i wonder if that would have been the case if the admin had their own finance actually invested in the project, would they have been comfortable taking their time to come to a decision while they watch their fund squander to nothing) In any other sphere but crypto, this guys will be investigated for collusion

 Also keep in mind that the unknown exchange they were shilling and leading investors too, ended up pulling an exit scam and there is currently 2 million coin waiting to be dumped on the market. Doesn't help that you Mr overlode is fostering other attempts on discord that might recreate the same scenario under some bs freedom of speech act.

 
 So yeah no matter how irritated you might be from my post, its nothing compared to how those "get a life" early investors felt watching their investment wither to nothing. Not due to an organic dump but mostly due to a sole acct that achieved the feat due to lack of action from the admin.

 Like i already mentioned, you can easily block my acct so you don't have to see my message anymore, that's the only power you have on this forum. This is not discord where you guys can ban anyone that state negative but truthful comment about the project.

Please explain to me how using a cloud service (which is what was suspected) is abusing the algo?

We didn't take "months", it was 2 months max from realising there was a big miner earning a lot to us implementing the new mining alogirthm, Please don;t quote me on that "2 months" as I am not as obsessive about times as you.

"One of your marketing admin even acknowledged that an immediate action was not taken" - if you are referring to me, no, we didn't take "immediate" action in from of everyone's eyes, rather discussed between the dev's what course of action should we have taken, discussed with the public discord, wrote new code, tested code, rolled out code, bug fixed code.

Jesus you are relentless in your BS statements, get a life rather than blame us for your early investment that went south.

I used to have sympathy for you, but reading a lot of your previous posts, it seems you consistently accuse dev teams of "poor management" when something happens that you don't agree with or is not favourable.

I ask you, would you like some cheese with that whine?

Weirdly my reply to this comment was deleted, so i will repost my answer. Thanks

I wasn't expecting any message from you your honor, so you can save yourself the headache of replying. As for claims about lies and exaggeration, all one need to do is peruse this thread to learn otherwise. You actively promoted Octaex on discord/BTCtalk but when they pulled an exit scam, you denied culpability while one of your marketing admins (SLPTOME) made fun of members who use the exchange on discord.

  You  and most of the individuals on discord were aware that a lone miner was the main culprit for contributing to a major dump of the price from a stable point of 1k+ to the lower 200 sat ( other miners dump, but we all know who was getting most of the block and doing majority of the dump) shit that why you finally updated the algo and even though the action of this individual was discovered early, you choose to do nothing about it to protect this investors who spent tons to maintaqin stability over 1k+, you waited for months, till the price was decimated to the lower 200s before taking action. One of your marketing admin even acknowledged that an immediate action was not taken. As i mentioned before, if your personal finance was involved, i doubt you would have taken no action in updating the algo while you watch your investment squander from a stable value of 1k+ sat to lower 200.

 So, i will repeat it again this was not an organic dump dictated by the mass which is inevitable, rather this was a dump orchestrated by one lone individual who was allowed to abuse the algo limitations for several months when his action could have easily been curtailed if the dev choose to take immediate action and update the algo to protect their investors. in any other institution except for crypto, you will be investigated for collusion but due to the nature of the scene, there is no proof to support the suspicion

 Again, this is like monero admins choosing to do nothing for months to update/ protect their investors when bitmain decided to release a miner that would have decimated the price. Monero still recorded loss that correlated with the current bear market, but if their admin had done nothing to protect their investors, the current price of monero would be beyond horrendous.

  So, no one ever asked you to pump the price, not once was it mentioned in any of my statement. Shit we all know you not investing your money into this project or you wouldn't let a lone miner get away with abusing the limitations on the algo for several months and destroying the coin's value. We all know its nothing but gain for you.
 The question is why you choose to do nothing about the algo limitation for several months (when you discovered/made aware that a lone individual was abusing the algo. You waited till this guy had decimated the price from a stable 1k+ to the lower 200sat and accumulated enough coin to shoot to the top of the leader board by several million coins before an action was taken) Now if that don't seem suspicion then i don't know.

  Its quite obvious from my several post that the dump i was talking about has nothing to do with today's dumps. Shit i been talking about it for days, rather its related to the dump due to lack of action from your end that enabled one lone individual(which is easily verifiable from researching block allocation and a constant topic on discord) to destroy the value of the coin for several month while accumulating enough coins to easily manipulate that value for a really long time.