Topic: [ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | CPU+GPU+Masternode | PHP Based |Decentralized Revolution - page 13. (Read 71588 times)

It's always the failures that have to blame everyone else for their misfortunes.  Any normal person would have just sold and left under having no confidence in the dev. 

If I spent time harassing every dev because a coin I bought dropped immediately afterwards, I would be doing nothing but posting on this forum since 2014.

You keep copy pasting the same thing. Here you stated "I personally advised several friends to invest close to 5 btc when it seem the coin was really stable/ floor was at 1000 sat".  It is so painfully obvious your just salty about buying the top and looking for a way to justify your poor investment timing.

I think the project is having a noise right now, many people are having an interest about DV8coin. They are gathering information about it, and i think this is a good start for a project. Keep up the good work  team. I do believe that this will be a successful COIN

Mind showing me that stable 1k period on the following chart?

   Again, my post is mean't to keep new investors aware of the full story regarding the coin to help guide them while deciding to invest, so if you already positively biased about the coin and hate reading negative post but truthful post about the project, then plz ignore/ block my profile.Thanks.

  Left to to the shill and those that hate on the individual that doesn't spew bullish bullshit thru a rainstorm, the thread will be filled with nonsense about how great everything is and what a bright future that's ahead. However, either you ignorant or you really ignorant, if you think my post on this thread has anything to do with the negative impact on the value. You can thank the dev for that. The guy who was allowed time to severely dump and accumulate millions of coin due to algo limitation is probably more impacted in that situation. And he owns enough coins and has made it known from the beginning that he has no interest in positively impacting the value, so get use to that for awhile.

 Left up to you, this info shouldn't constantly stay in the forefront, rather, i should spill rainbow colored feces on the project and state that its gold. If i was getting ready to buy this i will appreciate that the info on the forefront is that their is a malicious holder with 2 million coin waiting to dump and i would also like to know that the individual who owns enough coin and is currently controlling the value was responsible for dumping it from a stable 1k to upper 100sats and he has made it known from his action that he has no interest in positively impacting the price and will be controlling the value for a really long time. So just block my post if you have issue with my comment and post your bullish bullshit to counter my post, but at least the whole spectrum will be represented.

holy shit stfu already!

ARO being re-distributed early in its life is happening now.  how the hell do you know or not if other whales are buying up?  2 million coins at this price isn't THAT much, shit you want me to buy up more coins......I will just do you stop posting.  we're not all crying for current TEMPORARY losses here.  like it's been said a hundred times, what's done is done and it's not the end of the fucking world, the path fwd is not as dire as you make it out to be.

it's almost like at this point YOU are the one trying to keep the price down to accumulate more given all your hate posts hahaha....hhhhhmmmmmmm something to think about.  if you really are just whiny as hell then man up, hold, and wait for when ARO will really be something (it's been stated awhile this coin won't do much for awhile, so i dunno how/why you're still crying about price, especially in the 1 to 10c range lol).  you have no control over the coin or price anyhow so all you can do is ride the waves like the rest of us.  many of us are looking way beyond current standing...it's time you did too.

Ok look, "several months", "a while", we unfortunately did not have the manpower to do a complete re-write of the mining system in a matter of days, it's just that simple. And if it pisses you off that you think we waited on purpose then I am sorry Airline, you are very very mistaken.

I know you have lost a considerable amount of investment, but all I ask is you try not to keep dragging this up and focus on ARO's future which is looking very bright considering some of the things we have been discussing lately.

Please, we know you have lost out financially, but just find it in you to refrain from blaming us, we did the best we could with the resources we had.

ARO will bounce back.

just admit that you bought on top and stop blaming others for your financial decisions! what a pathetic behavior!

it took several months before an update was given that the team will finally update the code, this is after the community has been complaining for awhile about the lack of action from the devs part. Like i said no one asked for an ip block but an imminent algo change to limit the impact would have been nice. But they waited till the coin fell from a stable 1k to lower 200 sat to act, all the while giving the player enough time to accumulate to basically control the value for a really long time.  As for the perceived general positive conduct on discord, it quite obvious that any deviation from the general happy go lucky, its raining shrapnel but its all good comment will result in a ban under the guise that banning fud

 Oh and its easy to talk about letting it go, when you don't have several thousands invested when stability was attained at 1k, and watched that invest blew to pieces due to inaction from the dev. Wouldn't be that bad if there wasn't an acct with 2 million coins waiting to dump soon as there is a perceived growth and we also don't have a player (who has made it obvious, he is not interested in positively affecting the value) that is basically in position to control the value for a really long time.

 So, am sure there are enough shills to post how great every thing is, and i will provide the info related to the other side of the coin. so a prospective investor has the full story.

Look, I am not trying to "win" any argument here, I am simply defending myself and our team against the accusations you have made.

Yes, we knew whales were becoming a problem, but it definitely wasn't "several months" before we started implementing doing something about it.

There was no abuse of the algorithm, if you are trying to say that because someone had a large amount of cloud services that enabled a large hash rate is abusing the algo, then I am sorry, but every other coin out there is being abused.

We could not simply ban people who had high hashrates, I mean damn, I even wrote guides on how to use free credit from providers to maximise ARO earnings, so am I also guilty of abusing the algo?

I just don't see where this is now getting you, what you possibly want to gain. What's done is done, there are a very few people that aren't happy with the time it took for us as a team to -

1. Come up with a fair solution to combat large cloud miners.

2. Decide whether to make it a community vote or not

3. Maintain decentralisation

4. Conduct a vote between council members at a time when the vast majority was online (not easy to do due to different time zones)

5. Re-write the code to allow for a fairer distribution of ARO through CPU, GPU and Masternodes

6. Test that code to make it as bug free as possible on the testnet

7. Write guides for setting up masternodes

8. Create scripts for setting up nodes and masternodes to make it simple for those who have no knowledge of Unix based OS

9. Fork the block chain and implement the new code

10. Iron out the bugs that slipped through (which was done pretty much in 24 hours)

11. Try and keep everyone happy with regards to Mercatox and their node issues

This is just the main things we had to deal with. We are a small team, that works very hard, for free, we gained nothing by so called not acting. We did our best, in a time that was completely and utterly hectic.

By and large, the community is very happy, discord proves this.

I think it's time to move on from past scenarios and just look forward to a bright future with ARO

Just quoting an earlier statement. The several months of delay to update the limitation wasn't due to lack of personnel to code rather the devs just waited till the price was in the gutter to take action. Regardless of how childish i might sound to you, i keep using monero as a valid example. If monero dev didn't have the initiative to change the algo before the consumer asic arrived, i could only imagine what the price of monero will currently be. But since they understood that they had to protect their investors, they made an immediate effort to switch the algo. I will keep repeating that if Aro dev had financial investment into the coin and it wasn't all gain for them, they wouldn't have sat around taking as long as they wanted while they watch their finance dwindle to nothing before taking action. No one asked for the miner's ip to be blocked nor his wallet frozen, rather an immediate update to limit his impact on controlling over 50 percent of the hashrate in a supposedly decentralized project would have sufficed

 As for my cont posting, a new investor needs to be kept aware that there is a malicious acct with about 2 million coins waiting to dump this project, also they need to be made aware that their is an individual who utilized the algo limitations and owns enough coin to manipulate the price for awhile. They also need to be made aware that this player never had a vested interest in positively impacting the coin's price but has been seriously dumping it since he got into the play.
 Thus my bewilderment with you stating that he hasn't controlled his hashing power well cos he has lost a shit ton of money. The guy made it obvious from the beginning that he wasn't interested in positively impacting the price, yet he was given enough time to dump, bank and acquire enough coin to have monopoly on controlling the coin's value for a long time. So i post to make sure a new investors has all the info before making a decision to invest cos left up to most, they just shill without providing the full picture, and anyone that dare speak on it, is labelled a fud.

Like i said in our earlier post, always respected the help you gave on the forum and this is not in any way mean't as an attack on you rather its me providing a counter opinion to the derivative.

Yes!  Well articulated.  Looking forward to the future!

well said mate......and the latter half of your post is what i've been trying to get thru the moron FUD'ers head LMAO!

not to mention this is all gonna be a small bump in the road when ARO shows what'll do 2019 onwards for tech/releases and price.

thanks for taking the time and explain the situation thoroughly in a sane, serious and polite manner.

as the quote says...not "You can have all the people happy for some of the time, and some people happy all the time, but you cannot have all the people happy all the time."

This is actually getting tiresome now. The constant accusations that we did nothing for a long time. The constant accusations that the algo was "abused".

Jesus, the entire code had to be written by mainly ONE person to accommodate the new mining algo, it then had to be tested, and even then, we still ran into problems, all in an effort to keep people like you happy. Mercatox having the wallet in maintenance for a month WAS NOT our fault, we assisted them in every way we could to get their node up and running properly.

If it makes you feel any better I had ARO invested, my friends did, a lot of people did, but you seem to be the only one kicking up a huge fuss and relentlessly accusing us of doing nothing.

I do have a lot of respect for your opinions Airline, but honestly, this is becoming childish now.

We knew about the whales, there was one big whale, and if he paid for his services, then how on earth can we be blamed for allowing someone to do that, instead of NOT keeping with decentralisation and banning his ip's or freezing his wallet?

To this day there is NO PROOF that this whale gained his hashing power illegally, and honestly, if he really has "controlled" the value of ARO for so long as you claim, then he really hasn't controlled it that well and his hashing power, whether gained illegally or legally has only served to lose him a SHIT TON of money.

I admire your efforts to expose scam coins in your other posts, but your relentless accusations about us as a team are becoming an obsession. The huge whales have been dealt with in the new mining system. "zean", the community member that has donated funds of his own has been vilified relentlessly, it's become a witch hunt, someone else to blame for your loss of investment.

There is not one single factor you can blame, I was personally involved in the discussions about how to tackle miners who controlled a large proportion of the network, and yes, maybe in your opinion it took longer than you wanted it to, but it took as long as it did and there is NOTHING we can do about that now. We all have real jobs, real shit we have to deal with on a daily basis, as well as keep the community happy, a balancing act that not everyone is going to be happy with.

There is a lot of exciting things planned with ARO, and hopefully this whole fiasco can be put behind us and you will see 1k sats again, hopefully then you will be glad you invested in ARO.

Until then, and until these new features are released, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING we can do about past happenings.

Imagine blaming someone else for your own shitty investment.

 Monero devs knew that an imminent update was necessary to protect their investors from the asic influence. Aro devs were aware that one acct was controlling over 50% of the hashrate in a supposedly decentralized mainframe and did nothing for a really long time. even when it was apparent that the individual responsible was destroying the coin's value.

 Again if they had an actual financial investment in the project, they wouldn't have let the coin fall from a stable 1k sat to lower 200 sat before updating the limitation to the algo.

  By also waiting they gave this guy a chance to accumulate so much coin that not only did he bank from severely dumping the coin but also has the ability to manipulate the price for a really long time. In any other sector, this guys will be investigated for collusion.

The term "Abused" may not be the right term. Most people are simply referring to the massive drop in hash rate caused by the switch to V7.
Logic dictates that the V6 ASICs dropped off the network.

https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/04/09/moneros-hashrate-plunges-80-asics-hardfork

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-hashrate.html

Pretty easy to see.

Well, there was no proof that monero v6 algo was "abused"...

The thing I am struggling with is these accusations that the algo was "abused". How is it being abused if someone has a large amount of hash power that NO ONE has absolutely any proof was not paid for?