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Topic: [ANN] [ASIC-RESISTANT] UltraCoin (UTC) - Ultrafast 6 second transactions!! - page 311. (Read 946654 times)

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I believe the PoS part of this coin is a joke, you have to leave the coins in your wallet for 1 year to get pay?, maybe developers should change that to 1 week or 1 day, that will make the coin more interesting  Wink

Very much agree with your idea
Time may be a bit too long

Yes, the PoS issue has surfaced time and time again already.

Personally I would consider a good time would be 1 to 3 months possibly.



I agree, or do away with it entirely. I still would like to know where the POS coins come from - transaction fees? (excuse my cluelessness about this - I just can't picture the whole process well enough to understand it).

PoS is meant for long term, so it shouldn't be removed. it takes coins off the market and reduces available supply to eat up those 50 per block.... PoS coins are created in same fashion as mining, in a block. minting uses your staked coins and becomes your 'hashrate' to 'mine' blocks. Same block, different method. These kinds of questions should be answered in an FAQ on the UTC site, BC site answered all of my UTC PoS questions. Maybe XWeb could take a gander? Second time I've suggested an FAQ.
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Something occurring? Price has made a nice few jumps in the last hour.
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So tired of the same things over and over. Short term PoS sucks compared to other coins, yes. Long term is ok. Coin reward is 50 and not 10, yes. If you all don't like it, create your own alt-coins. Utc is not broke, so don't fix it. You all got onboard knowing what UTC consisted of, and if you didn't know, shame for not doing your research. Moving forward...

We have an online store now, that's what makes a coin useful, not changing its heart and soul.

Good morning everyone!  Grin Grin Tis a beautiful day outside. Maybe get some sun and make that Vitamin D.
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I believe the PoS part of this coin is a joke, you have to leave the coins in your wallet for 1 year to get pay?, maybe developers should change that to 1 week or 1 day, that will make the coin more interesting  Wink

Very much agree with your idea
Time may be a bit too long

Yes, the PoS issue has surfaced time and time again already.

Personally I would consider a good time would be 1 to 3 months possibly.



I agree, or do away with it entirely. I still would like to know where the POS coins come from - transaction fees? (excuse my cluelessness about this - I just can't picture the whole process well enough to understand it).
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I believe the PoS part of this coin is a joke, you have to leave the coins in your wallet for 1 year to get pay?, maybe developers should change that to 1 week or 1 day, that will make the coin more interesting  Wink

Very much agree with your idea
Time may be a bit too long

Yes, the PoS issue has surfaced time and time again already.

Personally I would consider a good time would be 1 to 3 months possibly.

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I believe the PoS part of this coin is a joke, you have to leave the coins in your wallet for 1 year to get pay?, maybe developers should change that to 1 week or 1 day, that will make the coin more interesting  Wink

Very much agree with your idea
Time may be a bit too long
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Well I just found my first block solo mining. I guess patience is a virtue. Good luck to everyone on here, and to UTC's future.

I hope I can find
Insist.
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The IRS can kiss my fat lips. And I got herpes.

Anyway, there's no way they can enforce the ruling unless they start to massively hunt down cryptopeople using the NSA or something.

It's like the war on digital piracy.




And the day they will attempt to they will only catch the less clever and richest rat of all, then everybody will switch to new strategies like mixers/fog providers.

This is why a good coin for the future should include the possibility to make anonymous (untraceable) payments in the blockchain (on demand, not systematic). Said transaction would then be mixed with all other anonymous transactions at a given time and nothing would be understandable anylonger.

Interestingly this would have dynamic/on the fly wallets generation and removal after the fact. So at a given time the wallet would run many subwallets common to all anonymous transactions. Let's say each wallet would generate a number of addresses, then when tx is emitted there would be a request for available wallets (if not that much available then payment would be stalled for a while until conditions are met) and everything would be mixed together in a huge group of micro transactions that would end up where it should without losses but the tx costs, making an anonymous tx more expensive and slower than a normal one, thus justifying normal transactions.

The ideal way would be to have each party exchange the exact same micro amount (under network surveillance/escrow mode where each wallet would be in a synchronized impossible to cancel operation and prove it has the funds) from their main wallet to other persons' secondary wallets (a lot of micro payments meant to empty the main wallet through communicating vessels) And then each secondary wallet would exchange contents with other wallets a number of times, then retransfer the amount to the real destination wallet. Would be such a spaghetti mess by doing it a couple of 1000s of time that I bet IRS would go nuts, especially if something random in the process would make it harder to interpret, like timing or amounts for instance.

This plus ultra fast transactions will be a good protection layer.
Maybe the future is fast and anonymous on demand.


Maybe opening a coin mixer/fog service is a good business plan... Gotta think about it.


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something wrong with nitro2 i think?
no payout for long time, huge amount of unconfirmed coins.. fork? or just slow backend?

edit: seems like quite a few pools are forked... cant look at blockstats from nitro1 tho (as i cant reg there)... no idea what the right current block # is... what i do know is that this sucks =[ but yea i guess that's what happens when no one gives a shit about pool distribution >.<

There is no fork stop it  Grin all the blocks on Nitro2 will confirm later with no loss what so ever to miners, this happens when a cron stops and requires manual intervention to get it restarted.
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The IRS can kiss my fat lips. And I got herpes.

Anyway, there's no way they can enforce the ruling unless they start to massively hunt down cryptopeople using the NSA or something.

It's like the war on digital piracy.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-25/bitcoin-is-property-not-currency-in-tax-system-irs-says.html

To me, this means that fast transaction times become meaningless. Not good news. (rethinking it, I guess it's still beneficial)
But yeah, I wonder how this will change the whole crypto world. I'm confused.  Undecided

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The IRS, faced with a choice of treating Bitcoins like currency or property, chose property.
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Purchasing a $2 cup of coffee with Bitcoins bought for $1 would trigger $1 in capital gains for the coffee drinker and $2 of gross income for the coffee shop.
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Bitcoin miners will have to report their earnings as taxable income with a value equal to the worth on the day it was mined. If they mine as part of a business, they would have to pay payroll taxes as well.
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The ruling takes effect immediately and covers past and future transactions and tax returns. The IRS said in the notice that it may offer relief from penalties to people who engaged in transactions before today and can show “reasonable cause” for underpayments or failure to file.

This comment is funny:  Grin
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The answer is simple bitcoin owners. Set the value of a single bitcoin to 1 million dollars. Then exchange your fractions of bitcoins at the same increments as dollars. If something currently costs 9 dollars and 95 cents it would be 0.00000995 of a bitcoin since you are now using all 8 decimal places. Since each bitcoin transaction carries with it a small transaction fee you can now write off all of your purchases at a loss.

This will accelerate the fiat leak.

Given the lack of confidence and distrust -if not contempt- the US population has for Washington DC & the FED, I would not be surprised that people deal cryptos behind the back of the government and maintain some kind of shady double accounting the like of black market glory because nobody can prove you own a given wallet unless they found it on your devices. Plausible deniability.

So they try to push bitcoin and cryptos to be seen as other stuff than currencies by curbing its use and considering it as a de facto other asset class. Good luck with this. The reall other asset class that is not currency is paper money. What they are doing right now is trying to put back the genius in the bottle before bitcoin floods everything because it's only so much better than whatever we've come to know so far.

They know this is inevitable and they know than soon or late it's going to be fiat which is going to be denominated in cryptos and not the other way round. Why? -Because crypto has limited supply and because they sold all the gold they wouldn't otherwise use to back the USD given the way bretton woods went down in the 60s. It's logical.

This is a last ditch attempt that will be followed by another last ditch which itself will be followed by other last ditches attempts.
The banking cartel is a cornered beast. So dangerous, but so vulnerable. Give it one bank run and they'll be dying despite all the lies they've been feeding us.

They will search and seize wallets next time as they showed us what happened to DPR and other guys. Don't worry it's in the pipe, so split you wallets in multiple smaller wallets, use some mixer to redistribute your wealth in an untraceable form (or write yourself your own mixer, not too complicated but shall be used with a gazillon of other transactions to make people lose track of every single satoshi in there) and store them in different forms in cold wallets, paper wallets, online wallets, etc. Don't put all you eggs in the same basket.

The real last ditch attempt to circumvent bitcoin will be the day they push the internet killswitch.
This time the real cryptos will have to work in the dark, and possible for a very long time.

This is why maybe it is not so stupid to see the future of cryptos as local to a given internet domain/country/region/etc. with possibly everything premined and all client consistently on and in minting mode no matter what.

The AUR coin has this in mind and I believe it will prove useful in the future, but only in iceland.
Other de facto regional coins like SPA, electronic Deutsche Mark, Netherlands Gulden, etc. will not be a stupid concept once shit hits the fan.

And yes, until then bitcoin will be seen mainly as a kind of savings account/SDR to some extent. This is the ideal SDR mechanism IMF could have come up with if they weren't so greedy in the first place.

PS: what surprises me is that given the advance warnings the FED has not come up with their crypto currency, call it the bidollar or whatever to try to use their influence to seize this new market all at once. No, rather than this they entrench themselves and lose ground to bitcoiners all around the world. Never saw such myopic generals in a war. Because this is a war, and they already lost.



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What's the situation on the bounties and promos guys?

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Thank you for the kind comments!! 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-25/bitcoin-is-property-not-currency-in-tax-system-irs-says.html

To me, this means that fast transaction times become meaningless. Not good news. (rethinking it, I guess it's still beneficial)
But yeah, I wonder how this will change the whole crypto world. I'm confused.  Undecided


Correct.  Moving forward, this will change the "Focus" of certain aspects with crypto; Transaction time being one.   I had posted comments about this on the UTC forum a short bit ago.

I've always considered BTC (crypto) to be a commodity, so I'm not surprised that it's moving this direction.  It will be interesting to see as things evolve.  I wonder if this is the US beginning posturing to trade BTC in the big leagues.  Recently they've commented on wanting to "lead the world" on how to deal with bitcoins.  

Ultimately, I guess, BTC will be held more than used;  but that's kind of how it is already  Grin

I expect Fincen to change regulations to follow the IRS.
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That's what the IRS says. FINCEN is calling it money. They really don't know what to make of it yet.

Indeed... They have no idea at this time Smiley Time will tell...
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That's what the IRS says. FINCEN is calling it money. They really don't know what to make of it yet.
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