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Topic: [ANN] [ASIC-RESISTANT] UltraCoin (UTC) - Ultrafast 6 second transactions!! - page 380. (Read 946659 times)

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To point 1 and 2 above;  yes I had not noticed the higher efficiency on the comparison page.  I do not ever intend to provide improper information.  Another found and posted right below me (Puycheval), the R7 250 was doing 2.47 kh/s @ 35w.  It would seem then an N = 15 would possibly be the last GPU point.  However, even at 14 it seems there are only 1 or 2 GPU's that are efficient?

To point 3.  Whew!  At least there was something  Grin

Thanks for the reply with more information also.  Glad to see you post!


The R7 250 2GB from MSI is a fantastic little card for High N factor coins, but the current champ is this little Sapphire R7 240 4GB version.  My theory was low shaders and high memory would be good, and it truly turned out very well.  The GPU mining software needed some additional features to be able to work at higher N Factors, and I was able to find what I needed and implement it into YACMiner thanks to Kalroth (who got the feature as a feature request on his version of CGMiner) : --raw-intensity.  It allows such fine control over how much work is going to a card that I was able to up the output ~ 50% compared to mining software without it.  The reason is that the -I setting sends work to the GPU at a rate of 2^I simultaneous threads.  Well, the optimal rate for that card was 3072 simultaneous threads at Lookup-gap = 4, which fell halfway between I = 11 and I=12.

You can get a decent hash rate out of most any card - just the newer ones tend to just work better.  N=15 and N=16 will be no problem for GPU's either, provided they're high memory cards and you have the system RAM to allocate the whole buffer in one shot (-g 1)
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pool.pm needs to drop their Fee to match the others ...
and yes I have 1x Rig mining just for them anyhow ,
if they had 1% fee like the rest i'd be top on their list instead of top 10 Tongue


but I love it when Nitro goes down .. so many cheap coins to mine Tongue

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nitro registration is closed last i knew
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Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Everyone has to get off Nitro seriously.
If we dont , UTC is going to only have one pool left.

Nitro needs to raise fees to 5%~10% spread the hash around.... its not healthy for the coin to be that centralized.





Thats not good!
By mining there you are hurting the very coin you are mining.

This is imperative. Thankfully Nitro's operators aren't malicious but this MUST be changed. There are MANY good alternatives out there. Nitro should close its registration and institute higher fees, as mentioned.
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Everyone has to get off Nitro seriously.
If we dont , UTC is going to only have one pool left.

Nitro needs to raise fees to 5%~10% spread the hash around.... its not healthy for the coin to be that centralized.





Thats not good!
By mining there you are hurting the very coin you are mining.



I personally mine on leetpools, I love it, great community good admin.
But this pie chart is causing un-necessary orphans and network instability for other pools.
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So Nitro or leetpools? Whats the better choice you guys?

i have half rig at leet, other at nitro. no significant difference.
thanks I'll just leave it alone then
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So Nitro or leetpools? Whats the better choice you guys?

i have half rig at leet, other at nitro. no significant difference.
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So Nitro or leetpools? Whats the better choice you guys?
I've always used Nitro, but occasionally the pool goes offline. Not sure why. It's great but maybe not as stable as some others.
leet has been good to me but the reported hash seems low was wondering if I could do better somewhere else.
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So Nitro or leetpools? Whats the better choice you guys?
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Thank you
I changed conf my rig 2*280x on SMOS like advised, now the resul is:

   Temp    Fan% (rpm)    Load  Rate     Accept/Invalid   Status
0: 70c-    61% (2397+)   99%   150 Khs  1253/17 (1.34%)  stratum+tcp://ultra.nit
1: 71c+    48% (1739-)   99%   140 Khs  1219/21 (1.69%)  stratum+tcp://ultra.nit
ro.org:3337
Total: 290 Khash/s  2472 accepted, 38 invalid (1.51%)
....................................................................


change intensity to 12, thread-concurrency to 16384, gpu-threads to 2, worksitzew to 256. delete "sharethreads"


Thanks. After these changes result:
Mon Mar 10 20:28:21 2014  -  smos-1  -  eth0:192.168.1.3

   Temp    Fan% (rpm)    Load  Rate     Accept/Invalid   Status
0: 58c+    5% (1041+)    99%    80 Khs  7/0 (0.00%)      stratum+tcp://ultra.nitro.org:3337
1: 57c+    6% (972+)     99%    80 Khs  5/0 (0.00%)      stratum+tcp://ultra.nitro.org:3337

Total: 160 Khash/s  12 accepted, 0 invalid (0.00%)

what to do?
last conf
{
"pools" : [
        {
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://ultra.nitro.org:3337",
                "user" : "xxxx.x",
                "pass" : "xxxx"
        }
],
"api-listen" : true,
"intensity" : "12",
"worksize" : "256",
"auto-fan" : true,
"temp-cutoff" : "85",
"temp-overheat" : "75",
"temp-target" : "73",
"expiry" : "1",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "0",
"retry-pause" : "5",
"scan-time" : "30",
"scrypt-jane" : true,
"sj-time" : "1388361600",
"sj-nfmin" : "4",
"sj-nfmax" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"thread-concurrency" : "16384",
"gpu-thread" : "2",
"gpu-engine" : "1050",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500"
}

Hi all!
please look at my new config, what wrong?
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https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/


AWSOME !!

3 days old and works sweet with UTC


Intel and AMD rigs running fine with it .. now to get my 64 bit BAMT's running Tongue need to access more of that RAM Tongue


Personally CPU mining is no problem , people will eventually pull their GPU's off to mine something else and leave CPU mining UTC .. no drama their .. same amount of daily coins with difficulty adjusting



Silly question.  What is a BAMT?

linux OS you can use.
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--snip--
There are a few CPU miners.  One is listed on the Ultracoin forum too.  However, there is one specific miner that is best and most up to date.
 
-Manual N parameters for multiple coins
-X86 and 64bit formats
-Stratum pool capable
-Scrypt optimizations for Scrypt-Jane

https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/

This is the absolute best CPU miner out there currently.  I believe it has all the needs being asked for.



Even though I'm not actively posting here;  I still hate to not help if I can. Grin

Thanks
Prot

UftrEhcPx5hTY4YJvSziPi13dfZT9nXSqw

good find, looks like they just recently added the min/max and starttime parameters.
+1 internets to you sir

This cpu miner works awesome.  I am thoroughly impressed.  I am a small miner anyway but have effectively doubled my hashing power putting this miner on 3 good cpu machines.  Ready for the n factor change anytime.  Thanks guys.
Can you post your config, and tell us what CPU you use, and your hash speed per core?


Running a Core-I7-4770 3.4 GHz 12.GB Ram
averaging about 9.9 Khash total across all cores

Found the I7 miner version works, but so does the Core2 version, so that is what I used.  I see no difference between the 2.

The settings are: minerd-x64-core2 -o stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306 -u xxxxxxxxx -p xxxxxx -a scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1388361600

The key is each setting name is different than the ultracoin miner, eg. no --sj- and --time is --starttime

Cheers.
I'm using an AMD 965 Black Edition and I am only getting 1.4 kh/s total....... 8gb system ram. Why does mine seem so underwhelming?

Are you using the AMD version?

Yes, the Athlonfx one. I have however, tried every single one and this one works best. It DOES submit shares, VERY slowly. One thing I did notice is on the workers page, the difficulty for video card is at 19.37, however my CPUs difficulty is 64?

That may adjust over time.  Higher difficulty shares are rated more than lower difficulty shares.  You may have to let it run for a while to see some averaged out figures.  Happy mining.
Cool deal, sounds good. Thank you! What sucks though is when I have the CPU miner AND the GPU miner running at the same time on my rig, my GPU starts mining much less efficiently. Sad

I edited my original post above.  Have a look up a couple messages before you replied.
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https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/


AWSOME !!

3 days old and works sweet with UTC


Intel and AMD rigs running fine with it .. now to get my 64 bit BAMT's running Tongue need to access more of that RAM Tongue


Personally CPU mining is no problem , people will eventually pull their GPU's off to mine something else and leave CPU mining UTC .. no drama their .. same amount of daily coins with difficulty adjusting



Silly question.  What is a BAMT?
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https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/


AWSOME !!

3 days old and works sweet with UTC


Intel and AMD rigs running fine with it .. now to get my 64 bit BAMT's running Tongue need to access more of that RAM Tongue


Personally CPU mining is no problem , people will eventually pull their GPU's off to mine something else and leave CPU mining UTC .. no drama their .. same amount of daily coins with difficulty adjusting

Using Generic CPU compile I'll recompile tomorrow and compare with correct CPU builds

Entry level OVH SeedBOX normally mining LTC at 6 kh/s
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2180  @ 2.00GHz

 thread 0: 481 hash/s
 thread 1: 551 hash/s
accepted: 1/1 (100.00%), 1.03K hash/s (yay!!!)


Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz)
thread 0: 9694 hashes, 271 hash/s
thread 1: 12289 hashes, 344 hash/s
thread 3: 12108 hashes, 339 hash/s
thread 2: 12262 hashes, 343 hash/s


Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6300 (2M Cache, 1.86 GHz)

thread 0: 14354 hashes, 266 hash/s
thread 1: 14824 hashes, 274 hash/s


for some reason still nothing accepted from the C2Duo's


Intel Core i5 4440 Quad Core 3.1GHz
 accepted: 1/1 (100.00%), 2.32K hash/s (yay!!!)
 thread 2:  585 hash/s
 thread 3:  581 hash/s
 thread 0:  590 hash/s
thread 1: 541 hash/s
thread 2: 568 hash/s
( PC using 30 watts more )
considering 2x GPU 320 kh/s for under 600 watts, and  that CPU doing 2 kh/s at around 30 watts is pretty expensive
GPU 1.7 watt / kh/s
CPU 15 watt / kh/s

of cause thats current N Factor will see what happens around N 14



AMD A10-5800K
GPU mining 25 kh/s
CPU mining  
thread 0: 685 hash/s
thread 1: 641 hash/s
thread 2: 696 hash/s
thread 3: 713 hash/s
accepted: 1/1 (100.00%), 2.72K hash/s (yay!!!)

Pool  showing 5kh/s    diff 16.00 !!!

Tho I now think I am pushing it seeing SQUARE BLACK DOTS ON SCREEN



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--snip--
There are a few CPU miners.  One is listed on the Ultracoin forum too.  However, there is one specific miner that is best and most up to date.
 
-Manual N parameters for multiple coins
-X86 and 64bit formats
-Stratum pool capable
-Scrypt optimizations for Scrypt-Jane

https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/

This is the absolute best CPU miner out there currently.  I believe it has all the needs being asked for.



Even though I'm not actively posting here;  I still hate to not help if I can. Grin

Thanks
Prot

UftrEhcPx5hTY4YJvSziPi13dfZT9nXSqw

good find, looks like they just recently added the min/max and starttime parameters.
+1 internets to you sir

This cpu miner works awesome.  I am thoroughly impressed.  I am a small miner anyway but have effectively doubled my hashing power putting this miner on 3 good cpu machines.  Ready for the n factor change anytime.  Thanks guys.
Can you post your config, and tell us what CPU you use, and your hash speed per core?


Running a Core-I7-4770 3.4 GHz 12.GB Ram
averaging about 9.9 Khash total across all cores

Found the I7 miner version works, but so does the Core2 version, so that is what I used.  I see no difference between the 2.

The settings are: minerd-x64-core2 -o stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306 -u xxxxxxxxx -p xxxxxx -a scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1388361600

The key is each setting name is different than the ultracoin miner, eg. no --sj- and --time is --starttime

Cheers.
I'm using an AMD 965 Black Edition and I am only getting 1.4 kh/s total....... 8gb system ram. Why does mine seem so underwhelming?

Are you using the AMD version?

Yes, the Athlonfx one. I have however, tried every single one and this one works best. It DOES submit shares, VERY slowly. One thing I did notice is on the workers page, the difficulty for video card is at 19.37, however my CPUs difficulty is 64?

That may adjust over time.  Higher difficulty shares are rated more than lower difficulty shares.  You may have to let it run for a while to see some averaged out figures. Are you running the video card and the CPU miner on the same machine?  If so, you may need to tell the CPU miner to use one less core (-t option) or you could see a significant drop on what your video card produces.
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--snip--
There are a few CPU miners.  One is listed on the Ultracoin forum too.  However, there is one specific miner that is best and most up to date.
 
-Manual N parameters for multiple coins
-X86 and 64bit formats
-Stratum pool capable
-Scrypt optimizations for Scrypt-Jane

https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/

This is the absolute best CPU miner out there currently.  I believe it has all the needs being asked for.



Even though I'm not actively posting here;  I still hate to not help if I can. Grin

Thanks
Prot

UftrEhcPx5hTY4YJvSziPi13dfZT9nXSqw

good find, looks like they just recently added the min/max and starttime parameters.
+1 internets to you sir

This cpu miner works awesome.  I am thoroughly impressed.  I am a small miner anyway but have effectively doubled my hashing power putting this miner on 3 good cpu machines.  Ready for the n factor change anytime.  Thanks guys.
Can you post your config, and tell us what CPU you use, and your hash speed per core?


Running a Core-I7-4770 3.4 GHz 12.GB Ram
averaging about 9.9 Khash total across all cores

Found the I7 miner version works, but so does the Core2 version, so that is what I used.  I see no difference between the 2.

The settings are: minerd-x64-core2 -o stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306 -u xxxxxxxxx -p xxxxxx -a scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1388361600

The key is each setting name is different than the ultracoin miner, eg. no --sj- and --time is --starttime

Cheers.
I'm using an AMD 965 Black Edition and I am only getting 1.4 kh/s total....... 8gb system ram. Why does mine seem so underwhelming?

Are you using the AMD version?
member
Activity: 90
Merit: 10
--snip--
There are a few CPU miners.  One is listed on the Ultracoin forum too.  However, there is one specific miner that is best and most up to date.
 
-Manual N parameters for multiple coins
-X86 and 64bit formats
-Stratum pool capable
-Scrypt optimizations for Scrypt-Jane

https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/

This is the absolute best CPU miner out there currently.  I believe it has all the needs being asked for.



Even though I'm not actively posting here;  I still hate to not help if I can. Grin

Thanks
Prot

UftrEhcPx5hTY4YJvSziPi13dfZT9nXSqw

good find, looks like they just recently added the min/max and starttime parameters.
+1 internets to you sir

This cpu miner works awesome.  I am thoroughly impressed.  I am a small miner anyway but have effectively doubled my hashing power putting this miner on 3 good cpu machines.  Ready for the n factor change anytime.  Thanks guys.
Can you post your config, and tell us what CPU you use, and your hash speed per core?


Running a Core-I7-4770 3.4 GHz 12.GB Ram
averaging about 9.9 Khash total across all cores

Found the I7 miner version works, but so does the Core2 version, so that is what I used.  I see no difference between the 2.

The settings are: minerd-x64-core2 -o stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306 -u xxxxxxxxx -p xxxxxx -a scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1388361600

The key is each setting name is different than the ultracoin miner, eg. no --sj- and --time is --starttime

Cheers.
u should use avx2

I didn't see any discernible difference, however, I have 2 identical machines, I'll run one with AVX2 and 1 with core2 and I'll compare in the morning.
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--snip--
There are a few CPU miners.  One is listed on the Ultracoin forum too.  However, there is one specific miner that is best and most up to date.
 
-Manual N parameters for multiple coins
-X86 and 64bit formats
-Stratum pool capable
-Scrypt optimizations for Scrypt-Jane

https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/

This is the absolute best CPU miner out there currently.  I believe it has all the needs being asked for.



Even though I'm not actively posting here;  I still hate to not help if I can. Grin

Thanks
Prot

UftrEhcPx5hTY4YJvSziPi13dfZT9nXSqw

good find, looks like they just recently added the min/max and starttime parameters.
+1 internets to you sir

This cpu miner works awesome.  I am thoroughly impressed.  I am a small miner anyway but have effectively doubled my hashing power putting this miner on 3 good cpu machines.  Ready for the n factor change anytime.  Thanks guys.
Can you post your config, and tell us what CPU you use, and your hash speed per core?


Running a Core-I7-4770 3.4 GHz 12.GB Ram
averaging about 9.9 Khash total across all cores

Found the I7 miner version works, but so does the Core2 version, so that is what I used.  I see no difference between the 2.

The settings are: minerd-x64-core2 -o stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306 -u xxxxxxxxx -p xxxxxx -a scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1388361600

The key is each setting name is different than the ultracoin miner, eg. no --sj- and --time is --starttime

Cheers.
u should use avx2
member
Activity: 90
Merit: 10
--snip--
There are a few CPU miners.  One is listed on the Ultracoin forum too.  However, there is one specific miner that is best and most up to date.
 
-Manual N parameters for multiple coins
-X86 and 64bit formats
-Stratum pool capable
-Scrypt optimizations for Scrypt-Jane

https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/

This is the absolute best CPU miner out there currently.  I believe it has all the needs being asked for.



Even though I'm not actively posting here;  I still hate to not help if I can. Grin

Thanks
Prot

UftrEhcPx5hTY4YJvSziPi13dfZT9nXSqw

good find, looks like they just recently added the min/max and starttime parameters.
+1 internets to you sir

This cpu miner works awesome.  I am thoroughly impressed.  I am a small miner anyway but have effectively doubled my hashing power putting this miner on 3 good cpu machines.  Ready for the n factor change anytime.  Thanks guys.
Can you post your config, and tell us what CPU you use, and your hash speed per core?


Running a Core-I7-4770 3.4 GHz 12.GB Ram
averaging about 9.9 Khash total across all cores

Found the I7 miner version works, but so does the Core2 version, so that is what I used.  I see no difference between the 2.

The settings are: minerd-x64-core2 -o stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306 -u xxxxxxxxx -p xxxxxx -a scrypt-chacha --nfmin 4 --nfmax 30 --starttime 1388361600

The key is each setting name is different than the ultracoin miner, eg. no --sj- and --time is --starttime

Cheers.
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PRICE:
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Despite the price slumping slightly the hashrate on UTC seems to remain globally constant (albeit slightly decreasing). Good.
This might be explained by people leaving DOGE and going back to LTC (look at its hashrate) and other alts.

Therefore this goes in the direction that either the market might gets the perception that UTC holds value or this is the novelty effect.

Anyway this pool of new miners that stick to the coin is both good and bad: good because it obviously helps consolidate the coin; and bad because there are always casual miners who dump every now and then among them.
NB: there need to be fresh coins on the market anyway, so these dumpers are welcome.

A potential side effect regarding dumping miners would be to keep the price where it is right now, slightly decreasing on a daily basis.
Anyway do not panic: as soon as profitability turns to another coin we should get rid of these dumpers and rise at least a bit until we get profitable again, and so on until we get more market attention.

Price evolution as of now is all about the fight between market and dumpers.

It's all about marketing and publicity, and this what lots of people are doing now. Do not stop your efforts, for they will be rewarded on the mid & long terms if we get lucky.


MARKETING: UTC = SPEED!
========

Transaction SPEED is the biggest single value proposition we can make for this coin. This coin is unique because of its transaction speed. We absolutely need to capitalize on this and pass the message to the public. The rest is secondary. And we need to communicate and become known for this because competition will hit the market soon.

We must get UTC = SPEED, or better: SPEED = UTC in the mind of the public. AND we must communicate we are the first to be so fast.

Having tried transactions between wallets, exchanges, etc. with BTC, LTC and UTC, I shall say that UTC transaction speed is simply awesome. This sole transaction execution time aspect makes the coin extremely convenient and cutting edge on the market.

Bumface you're absolutely right to underline this in your video, but you need to redo it by comparing this difference in speed between these 3 coins.

It is important because BTC is the reserve currency of all cryptos. This is going to be the global savings account equivalent. Not worth for everyday transactions because it is slow. Count 30 minutes for a transaction approx.

LTC was supposed to be fast. Actually it's much faster than BTC, but not nearly as fast as needed should you shop for groceries or fill your gas tank. You still have to wait for a few minutes. Not bad but not practical.

UTC fills a gap because with its 30s tx time it really starts to be practical and build up credible competition in the payment card field. This is the target you need to subtly point out in your demo without being too bold or aggressive, because this is where we get mainstream adoption.










+1

My thoughts are to dethrone LTC we need to pitch BTC / LTC / UTC  and paypal REFUND transaction times

say you are buying a house / car

they ask for an Deposit ( great I'll use my Ultra Fast UTC )
and pay the rest with BTC

Deposit is made paper work done ... when BTC clears its all yours


I was thinking of this as an  scenario

car dealership

4x customers

1x paying by cheque ( they get their car 1 week later )
1 x paying by cash ( they get the car ones the moneys all been counted / verified in a few hrs time )
1x BTC ( they get the car later on in that arvo when BTC cleared )
1x UTC .. they get the car once that paper works been finished cause .. BOOM its their


another situation would be placing deposit for something thats not going to last long on the market

1x person runs off to get some cash ( gets back and its SOLD )
1x person asks to pay with cheque  but declined because of Transaction time
1x person wips out their mobile starts setting up Q code to pay in BTC , see's the person with a roll of cash running up switches payment to UTC **BOOM** done

*yes we need to get that Android app done .. or started !! *
I personally don't want to put my name to code that involves money , but I guess I could add it to my list of unfinished projects

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