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Puycheval

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Quote from: Halofire on March 10, 2014, 04:08:06 PM

We need to know how n-factor affected cpu miners, if hashes halved. Is anyone even cpu mining?

I don't know for ultracoin but this is what was tested for Yacoin when it was cpu only. You can see hashrate is roughly halved with each N increase as long as it doesn't change of memory type. For example, the change 13->14 shows a big loss because dataset doesn't fit in L2 cache anymore.

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Nfactor	  	N	  	Memory	  	UNIX Time	   	Date/Time in GMT	   	Hashrate for 2x Xeon E5450
13		16384		2MB		1380574112		Mon - 30 Sep 2013 - 20:48:32 GMT		2,276
14		32768		4MB		1384768416		Mon - 18 Nov 2013 - 09:53:36 GMT		606

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Quote from: bumface on March 10, 2014, 11:20:51 AM

Quote from: pieterjanvh on March 10, 2014, 10:58:57 AM

Bumface, is ziggy doing anything at all about the CPU mining problem?

what problem?

There's no CPU miner for UTC... And the question have been asked many, many times.
U can't advertise a coin for being GPU and CPU friendly after a while and not have a CPU miner

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Quote from: KingCole on March 10, 2014, 04:03:12 PM

Quote from: Halofire on March 10, 2014, 02:50:16 PM

Quote from: fredeq on March 10, 2014, 01:14:07 PM

Quote from: Halofire on March 10, 2014, 01:01:57 PM

I would like to know why does n-factor not affect cpu's. yeah yeah memory intensive, multiple threads, ram. i got all that, but if hashrate halves for cpu's as well, which I don't know if it halves, then wouldn't cpu mining still get harder over time as n-factors increase?

Can someone who has been cpu-mining AND experienced any n-factor change answer?

Been wondering this since day 1. Defo needs an answer.

bump

I don't know the answer per se, but my assumption is that as the N-Factor increases you need more memory for a given hash-rate, you reach a point where the GPU is memory bound not processing bound. The GPU consumes pretty high levels of power so equilibrium is reached sooner. That is the cost of electricity is the same as the value of coins mined. At that point a CPU which consumes less power and can use memory more efficiently (this doesn't mean greater hashing), remains profitable

KC

the thing is that jane coins are marketed as gpus will not be able to mine. Is this because of the power efficiency you stated, or because the gpu isn't capable of hashing? We need to know how n-factor affected cpu miners, if hashes halved. Is anyone even cpu mining?

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Quote from: Halofire on March 10, 2014, 02:50:16 PM

Quote from: fredeq on March 10, 2014, 01:14:07 PM

Quote from: Halofire on March 10, 2014, 01:01:57 PM

I would like to know why does n-factor not affect cpu's. yeah yeah memory intensive, multiple threads, ram. i got all that, but if hashrate halves for cpu's as well, which I don't know if it halves, then wouldn't cpu mining still get harder over time as n-factors increase?

Can someone who has been cpu-mining AND experienced any n-factor change answer?

Been wondering this since day 1. Defo needs an answer.

bump

I don't know the answer per se, but my assumption is that as the N-Factor increases you need more memory for a given hash-rate, you reach a point where the GPU is memory bound not processing bound. The GPU consumes pretty high levels of power so equilibrium is reached sooner. That is the cost of electricity is the same as the value of coins mined. At that point a CPU which consumes less power and can use memory more efficiently (this doesn't mean greater hashing), remains profitable

KC

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Quote from: AceCobra1 on March 10, 2014, 03:50:51 PM

Quote from: SxC on March 10, 2014, 03:45:21 PM

Quote from: AceCobra1 on March 10, 2014, 03:31:51 PM

Quote from: SxC on March 10, 2014, 03:23:57 PM

Quote from: AceCobra1 on March 10, 2014, 03:21:04 PM

Out of interest isn't ultracoin identical to QQ coin and velocitycoin? What makes ultracoin more likely to succeed?

There is fastcoin as well so I am confused as to what makes ultracoin stand out compared to the other coins. It seems velocitycoin is very fast as well using scrypt-jane with n-factor implementation

Ultracoin has Bumface a BTC-e mod u know where it's going .........

Sorry for my ignorance but what makes bumface a better developer than other people? Also, how does having a BTC-e mod influence the coin itself? UTC doesn't seem to be listed on btc-e either ?

It has the potential to be listed tho and the devs at BTC-e are considering it

If it goes on btc-e it will become massive,already can go big without BTC-e but that will push it so high it could leave LTC in its wake

I thought cryptsy would be bigger than BTC-e since everyone seems to rave about it? I personally use BTer to trade but I wonder when UTC will get listed there

Crapsty was a flop for UTC tbh cause we got crypto-trade back sametime

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Quote from: SxC on March 10, 2014, 03:45:21 PM

Quote from: AceCobra1 on March 10, 2014, 03:31:51 PM

Quote from: SxC on March 10, 2014, 03:23:57 PM

Quote from: AceCobra1 on March 10, 2014, 03:21:04 PM

Out of interest isn't ultracoin identical to QQ coin and velocitycoin? What makes ultracoin more likely to succeed?

There is fastcoin as well so I am confused as to what makes ultracoin stand out compared to the other coins. It seems velocitycoin is very fast as well using scrypt-jane with n-factor implementation

Ultracoin has Bumface a BTC-e mod u know where it's going .........

Sorry for my ignorance but what makes bumface a better developer than other people? Also, how does having a BTC-e mod influence the coin itself? UTC doesn't seem to be listed on btc-e either ?

It has the potential to be listed tho and the devs at BTC-e are considering it

If it goes on btc-e it will become massive,already can go big without BTC-e but that will push it so high it could leave LTC in its wake

I thought cryptsy would be bigger than BTC-e since everyone seems to rave about it? I personally use BTer to trade but I wonder when UTC will get listed there

SxC

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Quote from: AceCobra1 on March 10, 2014, 03:31:51 PM

Quote from: SxC on March 10, 2014, 03:23:57 PM

Quote from: AceCobra1 on March 10, 2014, 03:21:04 PM

Out of interest isn't ultracoin identical to QQ coin and velocitycoin? What makes ultracoin more likely to succeed?

There is fastcoin as well so I am confused as to what makes ultracoin stand out compared to the other coins. It seems velocitycoin is very fast as well using scrypt-jane with n-factor implementation

Ultracoin has Bumface a BTC-e mod u know where it's going .........

Sorry for my ignorance but what makes bumface a better developer than other people? Also, how does having a BTC-e mod influence the coin itself? UTC doesn't seem to be listed on btc-e either ?

It has the potential to be listed tho and the devs at BTC-e are considering it

If it goes on btc-e it will become massive,already can go big without BTC-e but that will push it so high it could leave LTC in its wake

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Quote from: SxC on March 10, 2014, 03:23:57 PM

Quote from: AceCobra1 on March 10, 2014, 03:21:04 PM

Out of interest isn't ultracoin identical to QQ coin and velocitycoin? What makes ultracoin more likely to succeed?

There is fastcoin as well so I am confused as to what makes ultracoin stand out compared to the other coins. It seems velocitycoin is very fast as well using scrypt-jane with n-factor implementation

Ultracoin has Bumface a BTC-e mod u know where it's going .........

Sorry for my ignorance but what makes bumface a better developer than other people? Also, how does having a BTC-e mod influence the coin itself? UTC doesn't seem to be listed on btc-e either ?

SxC

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Quote from: AceCobra1 on March 10, 2014, 03:21:04 PM

Out of interest isn't ultracoin identical to QQ coin and velocitycoin? What makes ultracoin more likely to succeed?

There is fastcoin as well so I am confused as to what makes ultracoin stand out compared to the other coins. It seems velocitycoin is very fast as well using scrypt-jane with n-factor implementation

Ultracoin has Bumface a BTC-e mod u know where it's going .........

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Out of interest isn't ultracoin identical to QQ coin and velocitycoin? What makes ultracoin more likely to succeed?

There is fastcoin as well so I am confused as to what makes ultracoin stand out compared to the other coins. It seems velocitycoin is very fast as well using scrypt-jane with n-factor implementation

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Quote from: fredeq on March 10, 2014, 01:14:07 PM

Quote from: Halofire on March 10, 2014, 01:01:57 PM

I would like to know why does n-factor not affect cpu's. yeah yeah memory intensive, multiple threads, ram. i got all that, but if hashrate halves for cpu's as well, which I don't know if it halves, then wouldn't cpu mining still get harder over time as n-factors increase?

Can someone who has been cpu-mining AND experienced any n-factor change answer?

Been wondering this since day 1. Defo needs an answer.

bump

Halofire

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mining utc still covers electric and a few bucks or a few utc in pocket Wink

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Quote from: azerbaidjan on March 10, 2014, 02:25:03 PM

Quote from: Hoshimaru on March 10, 2014, 01:51:33 PM

I'm a miner and currently holding, but I cannot do that indefinitely. At some point by the end of a given month, I'll have to sell off some of the coins to cover for the energy expenses... It's not free and in the EU it's generally more expensive than in other regions.

I hope you crash the market by selling so I can repurchase at discount prices.
Let me know so I prepare some buy orders to avoid letting your coins go to waste.
Don't worry, we love T-shaped charts around here.

Trust me... It's no farm that produces that amount of UTC to bring the whole thing down.
A second rig would be a good idea. The one atm is running at 50%. One 280X was RMA'ed and the replacement is bound to be delivered this week. The 4th is ordered, but no ETA on shipping yet (very annoying). That's good enough for one rig. Still holdin' to my AUR as well. EXE, BC, CR got dumped after solo mining a few blocks. They paid for the bills Wink

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Quote from: Miesling on March 10, 2014, 07:49:33 AM

Quote from: NewSapUser on March 10, 2014, 07:41:44 AM

Thank you
I changed conf my rig 2*280x on SMOS like advised, now the resul is:

Temp Fan% (rpm) Load Rate Accept/Invalid Status
0: 70c- 61% (2397+) 99% 150 Khs 1253/17 (1.34%) stratum+tcp://ultra.nit
1: 71c+ 48% (1739-) 99% 140 Khs 1219/21 (1.69%) stratum+tcp://ultra.nit
ro.org:3337
Total: 290 Khash/s 2472 accepted, 38 invalid (1.51%)
....................................................................

change intensity to 12, thread-concurrency to 16384, gpu-threads to 2, worksitzew to 256. delete "sharethreads"

Thanks. After these changes result:
Mon Mar 10 20:28:21 2014 - smos-1 - eth0:192.168.1.3

Temp Fan% (rpm) Load Rate Accept/Invalid Status
0: 58c+ 5% (1041+) 99% 80 Khs 7/0 (0.00%) stratum+tcp://ultra.nitro.org:3337
1: 57c+ 6% (972+) 99% 80 Khs 5/0 (0.00%) stratum+tcp://ultra.nitro.org:3337

Total: 160 Khash/s 12 accepted, 0 invalid (0.00%)

what to do?
last conf
{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://ultra.nitro.org:3337",
"user" : "xxxx.x",
"pass" : "xxxx"
}
],
"api-listen" : true,
"intensity" : "12",
"worksize" : "256",
"auto-fan" : true,
"temp-cutoff" : "85",
"temp-overheat" : "75",
"temp-target" : "73",
"expiry" : "1",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "0",
"retry-pause" : "5",
"scan-time" : "30",
"scrypt-jane" : true,
"sj-time" : "1388361600",
"sj-nfmin" : "4",
"sj-nfmax" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"thread-concurrency" : "16384",
"gpu-thread" : "2",
"gpu-engine" : "1050",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500"
}

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Guys if you are making less hashrate than normal with 280x, increase your memory. I increased mine from 4GB to 8GB. Was getting 340 Khash/s with three R9 280x now getting 420 Khash/s. Decreased lookupgap to 2 to achieve it. tc at 16384.

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More seriously, UTC market cap is almost 1500BTC.
This is extremely good news.
Of course it depends on the price, but anyway this is a good piece of news: we're growing!

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Quote from: Hoshimaru on March 10, 2014, 01:51:33 PM

I'm a miner and currently holding, but I cannot do that indefinitely. At some point by the end of a given month, I'll have to sell off some of the coins to cover for the energy expenses... It's not free and in the EU it's generally more expensive than in other regions.

I hope you crash the market by selling so I can repurchase at discount prices.
Let me know so I prepare some buy orders to avoid letting your coins go to waste.
Don't worry, we love T-shaped charts around here.

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Quote from: Hoshimaru on March 10, 2014, 01:51:33 PM

I'm a miner and currently holding, but I cannot do that indefinitely. At some point by the end of a given month, I'll have to sell off some of the coins to cover for the energy expenses... It's not free and in the EU it's generally more expensive than in other regions.

Thats the reason why you need at leased 2 rig's! Wink

One is always on UTC, the other for some more or less shitcoins to dump.

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I'm a miner and currently holding, but I cannot do that indefinitely. At some point by the end of a given month, I'll have to sell off some of the coins to cover for the energy expenses... It's not free and in the EU it's generally more expensive than in other regions.

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Quote from: kelvinliong on March 10, 2014, 01:37:56 PM

Quote from: fabietech on March 10, 2014, 01:32:27 PM

TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, MINERS, TRADERS EVERYONE!! STOP SELLING!!!!!!!!

the coin is MUCH MUCH more in value then it is NOW!!! so everybody stop selling, even the daytraders!!! JUST STOP

Let ig go to 0,00050 First hen make you choice to hold or sell! but dont SELL under value!!

It seems that you are someone who bought at about 0.0005.

Call me someone that have allot of UTC! you will dream off in your sleep! and getting annoyed of people that want to make a quick buck!!
Ultracoin is a future coin!! not a pump and dump!!

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