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Topic: [ANN] [banned mixer] | Best Bitcoin Mixer | Low fees | Fully automated - page 10. (Read 3936 times)

legendary
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Binance was able to track the transfer, although I did not transfer directly from the mixer to the platform, but rather that all transfers were made from my own wallet. The means of tracking on the blockchain have evolved to the point where it is really difficult to hide completely. Yomix Mixer should take into consideration these details.
Does this mean you mix some coins, transfer them back to your wallet, and then send some coins to Binance? They might flag them since your previous transactions are related to conjoin transactions. I recall reading something like this in the past, saying that Binance will check your previous 5 related transactions to see if they are "suspicious". So, as long as you use a new address from mixing your coins, the chance that they would detect your mixed coins would be smaller, albeit not impossible since everything is on the blockchain. It is also a good practice to never send back your mixed coins to your own wallet, and just use the new address/wallet entirely. CMIIW. Pretty sure any decent mixer would consider this when they built their platform.

If the worst comes to worst, using DEX would be a good idea to swap your BTC after doing some mixing. Or just drop centralized exchange entirely if you don't want to deal with their false flag regardless if you use a mixer or not. Improving your privacy practice would be a good idea too.

Centralized exchange have the required tools to track transfer done on it either for good or bad, but with disclosed entity. Binance is the largest crypto exchange that stores coins and having one of the top trading volumes of crypto currency. Although it was hacked last year and the CEO of Binance, Changpeng Zhao reinforce his team to encrypt and decrypt data of users of the exchange. The exchange security is improving on a daily basis and reducing the scams to its minimal rate but it can not be eradicated totally.
They can definitely collect any data related to mixers by doing something like using the mixer on their own to collect some addresses and so on. That being said, I don't see them being hacked or whatnot related to their ability to track/link coinjoin/mixer-related transactions.
full member
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Definitely when we go for the new mixer services and when we are fighting about centralised and decentralised Mixers, we can always check the FAQ or detailed privacy policy from the mixers to understand what kind of data they are able to track and what are they deleting when we use their services.

Honestly, you have to have two way trust when surfing the internet. If you just visit the FAQ section of YoMix! then you can check out following question which lets you know that they do not store any data, and delete everything.




To add on to our safety and privacy one can always follow some logical steps. For example, using entirely new address to get our coins. This is also mentioned on their FAQ, and it is users duty to pre-check those for better privacy.



I have found most of the answers that we were discussing on their details FAQ pages. /en/pages/faq]Check it out here!
full member
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Is it possible for the same thing to happen to Mixing balance from YoMix? Can these transactions be tracked?
The only mixing service that would not come under the radar of centralized exchanges are those that do not really muddy the trail of  the transactions making it easy for them to track the source and store up that data for future reference. The attack on privacy exists and involves all mixing or coinjoining services.

Avoiding centralized exchanges would make transacting from mixers easier and without hitches.

- Jay -

Better to go with the wallet transfer to the mixer and then after receiving the newly minted coins, again back to the wallet. Anyways it will create new wallet as well thus making it sure we are not exposing our privacy that way.

However, lets say we are using YoMixer, then it is evident that with coinjoining protocol large number of people will be doing this mixing and thus sharing lets say 0.50 btc. However, it is highly impossible to understand who got which satoshi / btc in the process thus making it more anonymous and it serves the purpose properly.

In case of centralised, the system is bit flawed and runs with higher fees too. This is just personal experience though.
I believe that powerful centralized platforms have tools to track deposit transfers. According to my experience, Binance was able to track the transfer, although I did not transfer directly from the mixer to the platform, but rather that all transfers were made from my own wallet. The means of tracking on the blockchain have evolved to the point where it is really difficult to hide completely. Yomix Mixer should take into consideration these details.
I mentioned my experience with Binance after using one of the Mixer platforms (not Yomix) and I don't know if they will be able to track the transfers from any Mixer.
Centralized exchange have the required tools to track transfer done on it either for good or bad, but with disclosed entity. Binance is the largest crypto exchange that stores coins and having one of the top trading volumes of crypto currency. Although it was hacked last year and the CEO of Binance, Changpeng Zhao reinforce his team to encrypt and decrypt data of users of the exchange. The exchange security is improving on a daily basis and reducing the scams to its minimal rate but it can not be eradicated totally.
hero member
Activity: 2338
Merit: 757
Is it possible for the same thing to happen to Mixing balance from YoMix? Can these transactions be tracked?
The only mixing service that would not come under the radar of centralized exchanges are those that do not really muddy the trail of  the transactions making it easy for them to track the source and store up that data for future reference. The attack on privacy exists and involves all mixing or coinjoining services.

Avoiding centralized exchanges would make transacting from mixers easier and without hitches.

- Jay -

Better to go with the wallet transfer to the mixer and then after receiving the newly minted coins, again back to the wallet. Anyways it will create new wallet as well thus making it sure we are not exposing our privacy that way.

However, lets say we are using YoMixer, then it is evident that with coinjoining protocol large number of people will be doing this mixing and thus sharing lets say 0.50 btc. However, it is highly impossible to understand who got which satoshi / btc in the process thus making it more anonymous and it serves the purpose properly.

In case of centralised, the system is bit flawed and runs with higher fees too. This is just personal experience though.
I believe that powerful centralized platforms have tools to track deposit transfers. According to my experience, Binance was able to track the transfer, although I did not transfer directly from the mixer to the platform, but rather that all transfers were made from my own wallet. The means of tracking on the blockchain have evolved to the point where it is really difficult to hide completely. Yomix Mixer should take into consideration these details.
I mentioned my experience with Binance after using one of the Mixer platforms (not Yomix) and I don't know if they will be able to track the transfers from any Mixer.
full member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 227
Is it possible for the same thing to happen to Mixing balance from YoMix? Can these transactions be tracked?
The only mixing service that would not come under the radar of centralized exchanges are those that do not really muddy the trail of  the transactions making it easy for them to track the source and store up that data for future reference. The attack on privacy exists and involves all mixing or coinjoining services.

Avoiding centralized exchanges would make transacting from mixers easier and without hitches.

- Jay -

Better to go with the wallet transfer to the mixer and then after receiving the newly minted coins, again back to the wallet. Anyways it will create new wallet as well thus making it sure we are not exposing our privacy that way.

However, lets say we are using YoMixer, then it is evident that with coinjoining protocol large number of people will be doing this mixing and thus sharing lets say 0.50 btc. However, it is highly impossible to understand who got which satoshi / btc in the process thus making it more anonymous and it serves the purpose properly.

In case of centralised, the system is bit flawed and runs with higher fees too. This is just personal experience though.
legendary
Activity: 2170
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So what is your thought for the best, use mixing code or not?, because this is the 3rd time I try used this mixer, and so far is going smoothly, and still don't have a problem with that. I just want to create the perfect mix of privacy.
Obviously using the code would be the best choice, since it would prevent your last coins from being linked to you through other transactions. I mean, the feature is there for a reason, would be weird if it didn't solve any problem at all. I'd use them since it is not that difficult to keep track of the codes.

So, why the type Send of the following address is always different?,
I believe it is just to improve the mixing process. In the end, you can choose whether you can use segwit to send your transaction or not if fees are your concern. Other than that I see no real reason to prefer one type of address over another as long as my privacy is still safe. CMIIW.
hero member
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I was just curious if I use mixing code the site knows we are the previous mixer. but on another side, the mixing code is important to avoid getting your own coins from previous mixings. So what is your thought for the best, use mixing code or not?, because this is the 3rd time I try used this mixer, and so far is going smoothly, and still don't have a problem with that. I just want to create the perfect mix of privacy.

So, why the type Send of the following address is always different?,
in 1st mix I send to native segwit with bc1
in the 2nd mix I send to nested segwit with 3
when I do for 3rd mix I have to send to legacy address begin with 1
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People are yet to know so many things about You!Mix.IO,with the way it's going,this mix will out perform so many in the market and be one of the best.The way the advert is spreading so fast will make people whom have not heard about it or people who haven't used it want to use it.If I am to use a mix,this probably will be the one I will use because it's just one of the best I have seen.
This is why they have to increase their marketing exposure but considering the technology that they have right now, most probably they can get a lot of people to try its platform for their mixing needs. I honestly, haven’t tried this yet as I’m still waiting for my funds but I’ll surely try this one and while waiting, learning how to navigate this platform should be your first move. Seeing some of the comments here, some are successfully mixed their crypto.
hero member
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They have a number of blockchain transaction tracing tools at their disposal, so it's likely that they were able to trace the transactions. The other mistake you did was to reuse the address. If you are privacy conscious, once you reuse an address, the privacy level drops, and you made the job so easy for them.
I could understand why centralised exchanges would want to keep tracks on transactions and label a certain number of it from certain addresses to be suspicious but, isn't this supposed to be obliterated by mixing services as well?
By that I mean, not having to reuse an address increases privacy level, having both ends to do this is good enough to obliterate historical data to address linking. Hence,
Is the result of transactions from @Coupable in anyway implies that, return address stays same to enable tracking?
Excellent question. This presents some of the biggest dilemmas that mixing platforms are supposed to face.
Honestly, I don't know if this is possible with all platforms. But I remember that I used a well-known platform in the past, and this was many times, and this did not happen to me. The mixer that I used works in the chips way, where the user obtains a key or secret keys for two addresses containing the amount he wanted to mix, and withdraws them manually.
legendary
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by the way, I got an error after trying to mix to Taproot address, (address begins with - bc1p)

Looks like they haven't add Taproot address support yet. I also report same thing about 3 weeks ago.

While some Tor relay/circuit is faster than other, Tor design which use multiple hop prevent significant latency decrease. YoMix could configure their .onion link to use less hop, but it'd hurt their privacy.
So, It's not different when using VPN if they reduced or configured the relay to be 2 or 1 from 3. But, because we use a mixer, are privacy browsers like tor or VPN still important?. Why we should use that if the bitcoin address has been scrambled

I'm confused with your question since you mix multiple terms that doesn't go together.
1. When i talk about total hop, it's only applied when you use Tor.
2. Using VPN or Tor is still important if you don't want your ISP know you access mixer website. But take note you have to trust the VPN provider not to collect and sell your personal/browsing data.
hero member
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by the way, I got an error after trying to mix to Taproot address, (address begins with - bc1p)



So, when is the taproot address accepted?. Because when I look at explorer, there have been many transactions using the taproot address. Before too late, yomix must be one to implement it.

While some Tor relay/circuit is faster than other, Tor design which use multiple hop prevent significant latency decrease. YoMix could configure their .onion link to use less hop, but it'd hurt their privacy.
So, It's not different when using VPN if they reduced or configured the relay to be 2 or 1 from 3. But, because we use a mixer, are privacy browsers like tor or VPN still important?. Why we should use that if the bitcoin address has been scrambled
legendary
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They have a number of blockchain transaction tracing tools at their disposal, so it's likely that they were able to trace the transactions. The other mistake you did was to reuse the address. If you are privacy conscious, once you reuse an address, the privacy level drops, and you made the job so easy for them.
I could understand why centralised exchanges would want to keep tracks on transactions and label a certain number of it from certain addresses to be suspicious but, isn't this supposed to be obliterated by mixing services as well?
By that I mean, not having to reuse an address increases privacy level, having both ends to do this is good enough to obliterate historical data to address linking. Hence,
Is the result of transactions from @Coupable in anyway implies that, return address stays same to enable tracking?

IMO, I think mixing coins should go hand in hand with using a good noncustodial p2p service. Unfortunately, one of my most use p2p service, localcryptos is shutdown their business. I don't see the point of mixing coins then sending them to a centralized exchange.
Apparently, it always feels like the best thing to do. Rather than work a service between organisations, staying in the middle to break the line or chain gives a better chance of avoiding complications.
legendary
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thanks, I felt that also on another mixer. maybe TOR hasn't implemented yet bandwidth scanners to maintain the relay.

While some Tor relay/circuit is faster than other, Tor design which use multiple hop prevent significant latency decrease. YoMix could configure their .onion link to use less hop, but it'd hurt their privacy.

And FYI, whirlpool is a type of CoinJoin.
Thanks I just that, because Wasabi and samourai is different developer, i guess that used different type of mixer.

Yeah, both Wasabi and Samourai using different type/implementation of CoinJoin.
hero member
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My TOR when the opening site is bit slow, it's different when I use yomix on clearnet browser. but so far all going smoothly. 1 hour after mixering, I received mixed btc same as calculate from the legacy address.
Of course using .onion link (on Tor Browser) is slower than accessing regular website on regular browser. After all Tor use at 3 hop to access any website and optional additional 3 hop when you access .onion link.
thanks, I felt that also on another mixer. maybe TOR hasn't implemented yet bandwidth scanners to maintain the relay.

And FYI, whirlpool is a type of CoinJoin.
Thanks I just that, because Wasabi and samourai is different developer, i guess that used different type of mixer.

What's everyone's opinion in utilizing the Lightning Network for mixers, in both inputs and outputs?
Maybe isn't yomix implemented yet, because that very is complicated and must be an open channel, and not many people used Lightning Network that makes loss lot of money I think.
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I have done it, So far I don't have a problem and everything is going smoothly. Maybe my internet is a bit slow, because TOR is very slow and buffering when opening page by page yomix,io.
What slow and buffering are you talking about, mate?

I used what is considered to be a slow connection in the present day [I had no choice since my regular Wi-Fi connection was acting up] while streaming a football match at the same time and I didn't face any problems while trying to load the site via too via tor browser

The loading speed seemed normal

Here is proof about my alternative Internet connection speed


The result you have while trying your own Yo!mix IO might not be exactly the same with the other person's own,it might sometimes be different after trying it.I have not tried it,but when I will try it,it's not a must that the result or how mine work will be exactly the same with your own.There will Be a difference between between the two,because we didn't stay in thesame environment while mixing.So there is no need to panic,it's all thesame.
legendary
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What's everyone's opinion in utilizing the Lightning Network for mixers, in both inputs and outputs? Because Lightning transactions are not broadcasted to the public, it could add another layer of privacy. It's probably also beneficial for all mixing/tumbling services to cooperate, and route through each other before routing out to another Lightning node with many routing channels. It might also perhaps "clean" the users' minds from the psychological effect of "taint".
legendary
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My TOR when the opening site is bit slow, it's different when I use yomix on clearnet browser. but so far all going smoothly. 1 hour after mixering, I received mixed btc same as calculate from the legacy address.

Of course using .onion link (on Tor Browser) is slower than accessing regular website on regular browser. After all Tor use at 3 hop to access any website and optional additional 3 hop when you access .onion link.

So what kind of mixing yomix method use?, Are they use coinjoin or whirlpool?.

Probably their own mixing method/algorithm. And FYI, whirlpool is a type of CoinJoin.
hero member
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I have done it, So far I don't have a problem and everything is going smoothly. Maybe my internet is a bit slow, because TOR is very slow and buffering when opening page by page yomix,io.
What slow and buffering are you talking about, mate?
My TOR when the opening site is bit slow, it's different when I use yomix on clearnet browser. but so far all going smoothly. 1 hour after mixering, I received mixed btc same as calculate from the legacy address.

So what kind of mixing yomix method use?, Are they use coinjoin or whirlpool?.
copper member
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I have done it, So far I don't have a problem and everything is going smoothly. Maybe my internet is a bit slow, because TOR is very slow and buffering when opening page by page yomix,io.
What slow and buffering are you talking about, mate?

I used what is considered to be a slow connection in the present day [I had no choice since my regular Wi-Fi connection was acting up] while streaming a football match at the same time and I didn't face any problems while trying to load the site via too via tor browser

The loading speed seemed normal

Here is proof about my alternative Internet connection speed


hero member
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After I receive payment, I want to try how [banned mixer] work.

A. on this occasion, I am curious to use TOR: http://[banned mixer]/



B. I want try with low level with only 1 hour+ delay and 0.7% fee  Smiley



C. Before continuing, I want to make sure how much I get and have to calculate under calculator tool below



D. I just made the order, then i have to download Letter of quaranted - (THIS LETTER FROM [banned mixer] SIGNED BY 1YoMixKuHMxwm4JTpjc5kaEesSg9Pk8ZR)



E. I just sent from my electrum wallet to address ([banned mixer]) have generated.



I have done it, So far I don't have a problem and everything is going smoothly. Maybe my internet is a bit slow, because TOR is very slow and buffering when opening page by page yomix,io.
 
 and, Maybe next time I have use another delay and fee.
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