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legendary
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Nope, we're not going to support ltc/eth in near future, we'll focus on obfuscating bitcoin transactions.

I wonder what the general reason is that no mainstream mixer really gets into altcoins. Any thoughts from anyone? It seems like it'd be a neat opportunity to differentiate yourself and offer a service to people beyond just the Bitcoin-focused community. And as the altcoin grows in traction, you'd grow with it.

It's because the market cap for these altcoins is so low that almost nobody is going to use them for legitimate purposes, as the only users of them will be hackers trying to launder stolen ETH / LTC / DOGE.

Besides, depending on the altcoin, it can be hard to ensure that on-chain anonymity has indeed been achieved.
full member
Activity: 130
Merit: 150
Nope, we're not going to support ltc/eth in near future, we'll focus on obfuscating bitcoin transactions.

I wonder what the general reason is that no mainstream mixer really gets into altcoins. Any thoughts from anyone? It seems like it'd be a neat opportunity to differentiate yourself and offer a service to people beyond just the Bitcoin-focused community. And as the altcoin grows in traction, you'd grow with it.
copper member
Activity: 32
Merit: 29
Are you planning an implementation with the possibility of mixing other cryptocurrencies? It can always happen that you need to mix Eth or LTC. I think this would also be appreciated by customers.
Nope, we're not going to support ltc/eth in near future, we'll focus on obfuscating bitcoin transactions.
sr. member
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Are you planning an implementation with the possibility of mixing other cryptocurrencies? It can always happen that you need to mix Eth or LTC. I think this would also be appreciated by customers.
full member
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This is my first posting in this discussion, and I'm really happy to take part in it.
I am very pleased to see that there are people who still believe in the development of Mixers, because Bitcoin is just the beginning of a journey, but without an adequate mixer it will not be possible to have the complete result of perfect privacy. In the next few days I'll start doing some test operations and I'll post (as I already do for other services) my impressions and suggestions.



Welcome aboard this is a very long campaign I'm sure that Yomix is poised to be one of the top mixers in the industry I'm sure they are ready for a long campaign.
Mixing is here to stay I already said that there is a market there is a demand and the majority of its users are good people who just want privacy and anonymity on Bitcoin that they are holding, bad actors just found a way to use it but the good mixer will always protect their business existence to cater holders with good intentions.
sr. member
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This is my first posting in this discussion, and I'm really happy to take part in it.
I am very pleased to see that there are people who still believe in the development of Mixers, because Bitcoin is just the beginning of a journey, but without an adequate mixer it will not be possible to have the complete result of perfect privacy. In the next few days I'll start doing some test operations and I'll post (as I already do for other services) my impressions and suggestions.

hero member
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not your keys, not your coins!
Do  you get 'older' coins / UTXOs or 'newer' ones (with delay) when using YoMix?

I don't think I like this aspect:
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After first mixing at [banned mixer] you will receive a unique code. With help of this code, we guarantee that you will never receive your own coins from previous transactions. Simply use this code for all your future mixing orders.

This code basically links your mixes.. It could become a point of failure in case the service gets seized.

If a mixer is good, it should not matter if you get 'your own coins' because all the 'outputs' of the mixer are considered unrelated to the inputs anyway.
hero member
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YoMix, how do you feel about what happened to Chipmixer with the FBI seizing their website and putting out an international arrest warrant for the owner? Personally I think it is inevitable that all mixers will have their domains seized and the owners will end up arrested or on the run while an international arrest warrant is on their names. Do you worry about being next investigated and possibly charged with money laundering and other crimes?


This will not prevent or limit the phenomenon of money laundering associated with criminal operations and not with the presence of Mixers. There are many ways to launder money, and mixers is one of them.
Fortunately for Chipmixer users, there are alternative, honest and honest mixing platforms like Yomix. Yomix platform has proven its effectiveness since its launch, and it is fortunate for users that it has been organizing a continuous promotional signature campaign for 10 weeks. I advise everyone to use it.
I also hope that what happened with Chipmixer will be an important lesson for those in charge of the platform so that the tragedy will not be repeated.
full member
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YoMix, how do you feel about what happened to Chipmixer with the FBI seizing their website and putting out an international arrest warrant for the owner? Personally I think it is inevitable that all mixers will have their domains seized and the owners will end up arrested or on the run while an international arrest warrant is on their names. Do you worry about being next investigated and possibly charged with money laundering and other crimes?
That's quite sad story.

Certainly, it is a sad story and we can not help but hope that such things won't happen to YoMix or any other such service in the future. I am not sure what happened to the chip mixer (or why?) but considering we are in the same business all the precautionary steps shall be taken by YoMix in advance. I mean it's a true saying that learns from the mistakes of others.

Though Chipmixer grew giant with time, they should have taken extra precautions with time.

I am happy that we have YoMix now. The only thing on my mind is a safe play and its lifelong existence of it. Because we freaking love our privacy man Smiley


Indeed. But privacy is a human right.

Money laundering is a crime, and hackers using it to obfuscate their stolen money is illegal, so these users would have to be banned to avoid being illegal, and even that won't magically make you compliant with FinCEN (regardless of where you live).

And if you collect KYC before using the mixer, then the purpose of mixing is lost. So it's a catch-22.

Even if all mixers are shut down, there will still be many ways to perform money laundering, and history has shown us that nobody is actually serious about apprehending the people who launder their money, in contrast to, for example, the services that facilitate it. Because these are easy targets. To capture the actual criminals requires a lot of discouraging red tape across countries.

If anyone thinks I'm wrong about the above paragraph, then why haven't the 1MDB thief and his henchmen been caught yet?

That is the problem here. If mixers go KYC then we are done already. Then it would be far easier to have p2p transaction considering its just two individuals who are exposing themselves to each other as long as there is no escrow.

However, as I said, let us just hope YoMix will take care of their business rightfully and run it forever. GL to all of us.
legendary
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
YoMix, how do you feel about what happened to Chipmixer with the FBI seizing their website and putting out an international arrest warrant for the owner? Personally I think it is inevitable that all mixers will have their domains seized and the owners will end up arrested or on the run while an international arrest warrant is on their names. Do you worry about being next investigated and possibly charged with money laundering and other crimes?
That's quite sad story.

Indeed. But privacy is a human right.

Money laundering is a crime, and hackers using it to obfuscate their stolen money is illegal, so these users would have to be banned to avoid being illegal, and even that won't magically make you compliant with FinCEN (regardless of where you live).

And if you collect KYC before using the mixer, then the purpose of mixing is lost. So it's a catch-22.

Even if all mixers are shut down, there will still be many ways to perform money laundering, and history has shown us that nobody is actually serious about apprehending the people who launder their money, in contrast to, for example, the services that facilitate it. Because these are easy targets. To capture the actual criminals requires a lot of discouraging red tape across countries.

If anyone thinks I'm wrong about the above paragraph, then why haven't the 1MDB thief and his henchmen been caught yet?
full member
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YoMix, how do you feel about what happened to Chipmixer
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Chipmixer is a big mixing platform and attracts lots of attention, but this is not the first time that a mixer has been seized before and should not call for panic across other mixing platforms. With how much the government wants control, any privacy website is at risk of having a heavy hammer come down on them, but we hope it does not happen.

It is a good thing there are alternatives like YoMix now, while we hope for some positive news related to CM.

- Jay -

Mixing platforms are gearing up to be a good alternative to Chipmixer, we have a few mixers running a marketing campaign if Yomix continues to market and solve issues like server downtime and offer lower fees I'm sure they can reach the status as one of the top mixers.
The mixing industry will not go down because there's a market and people value their privacy and will always look for one.
hero member
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- Jay -
How many Bitcoin mixers have been seized by Authorities, for example?
I only know two. Bestmixer.io and Chipmixer
And with a time period of 4 years between both cases. Chipmixer has a huge presence here on the forum and so it getting seized and the signature campaign which has run for so many years closing abruptly, it is no surprise many think it is the end for mixers; after-all if chipmixer can go down, why can't all the other mixers out there.

We as a community can come together and come up with ways to protect our right to privacy by finding ways to look out for mixers.

- Jay -
copper member
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฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
YoMix, how do you feel about what happened to Chipmixer with the FBI seizing their website and putting out an international arrest warrant for the owner? Personally I think it is inevitable that all mixers will have their domains seized and the owners will end up arrested or on the run while an international arrest warrant is on their names.
It's not inevitable. Maybe you are just overreacting or being overly excited that Chipmixer got seized, which I understand is normal.

How many Bitcoin mixers have been seized by Authorities, for example?
I only know two. Bestmixer.io and Chipmixer

We have had so many mixers operating and some have just chosen to end business without anything to do with seizures and arrests.

hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 661
- Jay -
YoMix, how do you feel about what happened to Chipmixer
...
Chipmixer is a big mixing platform and attracts lots of attention, but this is not the first time that a mixer has been seized before and should not call for panic across other mixing platforms. With how much the government wants control, any privacy website is at risk of having a heavy hammer come down on them, but we hope it does not happen.

It is a good thing there are alternatives like YoMix now, while we hope for some positive news related to CM.

- Jay -
copper member
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Merit: 29
YoMix, how do you feel about what happened to Chipmixer with the FBI seizing their website and putting out an international arrest warrant for the owner? Personally I think it is inevitable that all mixers will have their domains seized and the owners will end up arrested or on the run while an international arrest warrant is on their names. Do you worry about being next investigated and possibly charged with money laundering and other crimes?
That's quite sad story.
legendary
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YoMix, how do you feel about what happened to Chipmixer with the FBI seizing their website and putting out an international arrest warrant for the owner? Personally I think it is inevitable that all mixers will have their domains seized and the owners will end up arrested or on the run while an international arrest warrant is on their names. Do you worry about being next investigated and possibly charged with money laundering and other crimes?
copper member
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Chipmixer was just seized, both the clearnet and TOR site. I can't find anything about it right now, like news articles or anything, so I don't have any more information. It seems like it just happened in the past few hours. Definitely something to monitor and cautiously see if there are any opportunities for taking on more users. Perhaps lower fees for the time being as an incentive?
That's sad.
Our fees are pretty low, but we'll think about lowering it a bit more for some time.
full member
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Chipmixer was just seized, both the clearnet and TOR site. I can't find anything about it right now, like news articles or anything, so I don't have any more information. It seems like it just happened in the past few hours. Definitely something to monitor and cautiously see if there are any opportunities for taking on more users. Perhaps lower fees for the time being as an incentive?
legendary
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The site sees to be online for most places right now, but currently down in Netherlands and Pakistan. Check it here: https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/[banned mixer]
Thanks for the info. Is the site reliable? I'm more familiar with other 'is it down for everyone or just me' tools, but it is nice to know another one. What's the chance the down part is just the DNS provider blocking access to a specific domain btw?

If your VPN allows it, you might be able to swap on over to a country where the site is working, if it's out in other locations. It's probably pretty rare though that the site will be out in your country but up in others.
If you have access to Tor it is probably better to try using ToR. And don't bother using a free VPN since most of the time they will collect your data regardless of what their privacy policy told you.

Nope, we just moved clearnet domain to another provider, because previous one couldn't handle ddos, now everything works fine.
Good to know that. Hopefully, it will be able to handle another attack without any problem.
copper member
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Is there another DNS attack on the clearnet recently? I tried to access the website but it shows DNS not found/DNS error. Tried it several times, sometimes it succeed and sometimes it doesn't. I'm pretty sure it is not my internet problem since I use DNS encryption and VPN that doesn't block the Yomix clearnet address.
Nope, we just moved clearnet domain to another provider, because previous one couldn't handle ddos, now everything works fine.
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