It's their blog so they can write whatever they want, but zengo wallet and ledger nano X hardware wallet are probably one of the worst suggestions I ever saw for ''Anonymous Bitcoin Wallets'', whatever that means.
If it has nothing to do with your service than don't write blog articles about them, and don't make posts about them in forum.
Topic: ➡️➡️ [ANN] | [banned mixer] | BITCOIN MIXER ⬅️⬅️ - page 2. (Read 2237 times)
I would like to clarify that the article is based on official data provided by various wallets, and our aim was to present this information in a neutral and factual manner. We did not seek to refute or confirm the anonymity claims of each wallet, but rather to provide the public with the information available.
This has to be the dumbest thing I've read today. You literally called it Top Picks, which suggests there's more behind it than "they say they're the best".Quote
I'd like to remind everyone that the main purpose of this forum thread is to discuss and share experiences related to the use of ~
You brought up anonymous wallets, and if you give bad recommendations, you can expect to be called out here. If you don't want that, don't post about it. 
Thank you for your feedback and interest in the article published on our site. I would like to clarify that the article is based on official data provided by various wallets, and our aim was to present this information in a neutral and factual manner. We did not seek to refute or confirm the anonymity claims of each wallet, but rather to provide the public with the information available.
It's important to understand that anonymity in the realm of cryptocurrencies is a complex and multifaceted issue. While some wallets claim to offer anonymity, practical security and privacy can vary based on numerous factors. Hence, the article emphasizes the use of Bitcoin mixers, such as [banned mixer] service, as one of the methods to enhance transaction privacy.
We value every opinion and are open to constructive dialogue. However, I'd like to remind everyone that the main purpose of this forum thread is to discuss and share experiences related to the use of the ]"[banned mixer] Bitcoin mixer" .
We encourage focusing on this topic in future posts.
It's important to understand that anonymity in the realm of cryptocurrencies is a complex and multifaceted issue. While some wallets claim to offer anonymity, practical security and privacy can vary based on numerous factors. Hence, the article emphasizes the use of Bitcoin mixers, such as [banned mixer] service, as one of the methods to enhance transaction privacy.
We value every opinion and are open to constructive dialogue. However, I'd like to remind everyone that the main purpose of this forum thread is to discuss and share experiences related to the use of the ]"[banned mixer] Bitcoin mixer" .
We encourage focusing on this topic in future posts.
You should read your own post where you announced a good news, did you even check their top picks of wallets they suggest? read this page again. Where are these "most of forum members" you mention? rhetorical don't answer it.
Is everything ok with the [banned mixer] clearnet page?
On my side, the site is not available on two different browsers (Chrome and Opera), while the Tor site is online and active.
Of course, you can, but wouldn't it be better to check a little before you write the first thing that comes to your mind? @coupable already answered that the campaigns were planned much earlier, but of course, you couldn't check that, could you?
note: these are rhetorical questions, you don't have to answer, I would even appreciate it if you refrained.
What are you talking about, man?
Most forum users consider you a troll, only in this thread do you show how superficially you conclude, so why would anyone take these suggestions of yours seriously?
note: these are also rhetorical questions, you don't have to answer, I would even appreciate it if you refrained. I'm not even going to answer you, so once again I'm asking you to refrain from further replies.
On my side, the site is not available on two different browsers (Chrome and Opera), while the Tor site is online and active.
Can I ask a question? Of course I can, here it is :
Of course, you can, but wouldn't it be better to check a little before you write the first thing that comes to your mind? @coupable already answered that the campaigns were planned much earlier, but of course, you couldn't check that, could you?
note: these are rhetorical questions, you don't have to answer, I would even appreciate it if you refrained.
So this mixer is operated by the state of Israel? Good to know, that means nobody should ever use this mixer.
Good to know, now we should never use that wallet and any service suggesting that wallet.
What are you talking about, man?
Most forum users consider you a troll, only in this thread do you show how superficially you conclude, so why would anyone take these suggestions of yours seriously?
note: these are also rhetorical questions, you don't have to answer, I would even appreciate it if you refrained. I'm not even going to answer you, so once again I'm asking you to refrain from further replies.
So this mixer is operated by the state of Israel? Good to know, that means nobody should ever use this mixer.
I was not talking of the mixer itself, I don't want to spread false ideas.
I was talking of the wallet suggested by the mixer, Zengo.
So this mixer is operated by the state of Israel? Good to know, that means nobody should ever use this mixer.
I was not talking of the mixer itself, I don't want to spread false ideas.
I was talking of the wallet suggested by the mixer, Zengo.
So this mixer is operated by the state of Israel? Good to know, that means nobody should ever use such mixer.
Can I ask a question? Of course I can, here it is :
What prompted you to start advertising your service right during the sinbad shut down? It seemed a bit suspicious IMO to immediately trying to fill the vacancy as if it was all planned ahead of time, which I believe had some sort of influence on the decision of banning mixers forum wide, of course I know we are all innocent until proven guilty, what I'm saying is that you guys make it look very obvious even though it could be just that you realized there is an opportunity to take advantage of, and you took it. 😉 anyhow good luck after december.
A promotional campaign has been scheduled to be launched here on the forum before Sinbad is shut down. I remember that Royce started a review campaign, and the signature campaign was scheduled to be launched immediately afterwards, which is what actually happened. The forum's decision to cancel all activities related to mixers was two or three days after the launch of the signature campaign and before Royce had even chosen the accepted members. What prompted you to start advertising your service right during the sinbad shut down? It seemed a bit suspicious IMO to immediately trying to fill the vacancy as if it was all planned ahead of time, which I believe had some sort of influence on the decision of banning mixers forum wide, of course I know we are all innocent until proven guilty, what I'm saying is that you guys make it look very obvious even though it could be just that you realized there is an opportunity to take advantage of, and you took it. 😉 anyhow good luck after december.
Don't miss our /blog/top-picks-for-anonymous-bitcoin-wallets]"Top Picks for Anonymous Bitcoin Wallets"
And your #1 choice is "Zengo"? To start, cellphones are terrible for privacy, but worse than that, the website is filled with buzzwords that are typical for BS-sellers that try to convince gullible people. I wouldn't trust them with my funds!If you want privacy, use Bitcoin Core with Coin Control through Tor. To add security, set it up as watch-only online wallet, and sign offline.
There's no need to trust or even pay third parties for this.
Absolutely.
Zengo looks shady IMO.
I am not familiar with "MPC wallets", I will check it later more in details, but I personnaly appreciate a lot to own my private keys.
It looks like they want to propose the exact opposite of the essence of Bitcoin itself:
Quote from: https://zengo.com/mpc-wallet/
TL;DR: “Not your keys, not your coins” has resulted in over $100 billion lost or stolen since the early 2010s. Zengo is the leading MPC wallet that secures over 1 million customers. Check it out, or read below to learn more about MPC wallets.
If you check their "privacy policy": https://zengo.com/privacy-policy/
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PERSONAL INFORMATION WE PROCESS
Initial Account Sign-up Information.
To sign up to and create a user account on the App, we collect your email address.
Facial Image Information.
If you wish to activate your App user account with the back-up feature, as further explained in our Terms, you will need to provide your biometric data of your facial image, which is a mathematical representation of your face. You do not have to provide us with your face image data. However, you will not be able to use this back-up functionality of the App without providing such information.
Support Information.
When you contact us for technical and customer support requests, we collect the information included in your request and in follow-up interactions we have with you.
Inquiry Information.
When you contact us with general inquiries through our online contact forms, chats or otherwise, we collect and process your email address and the information you include in your inquiry.
Initial Account Sign-up Information.
To sign up to and create a user account on the App, we collect your email address.
Facial Image Information.
If you wish to activate your App user account with the back-up feature, as further explained in our Terms, you will need to provide your biometric data of your facial image, which is a mathematical representation of your face. You do not have to provide us with your face image data. However, you will not be able to use this back-up functionality of the App without providing such information.
Support Information.
When you contact us for technical and customer support requests, we collect the information included in your request and in follow-up interactions we have with you.
Inquiry Information.
When you contact us with general inquiries through our online contact forms, chats or otherwise, we collect and process your email address and the information you include in your inquiry.
And if you read the Terms of use: https://zengo.com/terms-of-use/
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Applicable Law and Jurisdiction
These Terms shall be governed solely by the laws of the State of Israel without regard to its conflict of law provisions.
The Tel Aviv District Court shall have sole and exclusive jurisdiction and venue over any claim in connection with the Website or in respect of any matter relating to these Terms. You hereby expressly consent to personal jurisdiction in Israel and expressly waive any right to object to such personal jurisdiction or the non-convenience of such forum.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, we may lodge a claim against you pursuant to the indemnity clause above in any court adjudicating a third party claim against us.
These Terms shall be governed solely by the laws of the State of Israel without regard to its conflict of law provisions.
The Tel Aviv District Court shall have sole and exclusive jurisdiction and venue over any claim in connection with the Website or in respect of any matter relating to these Terms. You hereby expressly consent to personal jurisdiction in Israel and expressly waive any right to object to such personal jurisdiction or the non-convenience of such forum.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, we may lodge a claim against you pursuant to the indemnity clause above in any court adjudicating a third party claim against us.
I am not involved in Political stuff in general, I don't care about that. But when it comes to privacy, the State of Israel is not working in user's interests IMO. Which GPDR policy is protecting their users ? Isn't Israel know for building a lot of shady softwares stealing people data?
So, I should : give my email address, potentially a biometric data of my face, and others things (IP, communications etc..) to a company located in a country known to abuse of people's data ; all these things to "protect my BTC" from being lost or stolen?
Maybe I am ignorant, but I will stay with Bitcoin Core, Electrum, Trezor (and Tor). Open-source rules
Don't miss our /blog/top-picks-for-anonymous-bitcoin-wallets]"Top Picks for Anonymous Bitcoin Wallets"
And your #1 choice is "Zengo"? To start, cellphones are terrible for privacy, but worse than that, the website is filled with buzzwords that are typical for BS-sellers that try to convince gullible people. I wouldn't trust them with my funds!If you want privacy, use Bitcoin Core with Coin Control through Tor. To add security, set it up as watch-only online wallet, and sign offline.
There's no need to trust or even pay third parties for this.
Can I ask a question? Of course I can, here it is :
What prompted you to start advertising your service right during the sinbad shut down? It seemed a bit suspicious IMO to immediately trying to fill the vacancy as if it was all planned ahead of time, which I believe had some sort of influence on the decision of banning mixers forum wide, of course I know we are all innocent until proven guilty, what I'm saying is that you guys make it look very obvious even though it could be just that you realized there is an opportunity to take advantage of, and you took it. 😉 anyhow good luck after december.
What prompted you to start advertising your service right during the sinbad shut down? It seemed a bit suspicious IMO to immediately trying to fill the vacancy as if it was all planned ahead of time, which I believe had some sort of influence on the decision of banning mixers forum wide, of course I know we are all innocent until proven guilty, what I'm saying is that you guys make it look very obvious even though it could be just that you realized there is an opportunity to take advantage of, and you took it. 😉 anyhow good luck after december.
In the meantime, I'd highly recommend checking out our latest blog posts for some exciting reads.
Don't miss our /blog/top-picks-for-anonymous-bitcoin-wallets]"Top Picks for Anonymous Bitcoin Wallets" , /blog/top-anonymous-cryptocurrencies]"Top Anonymous Cryptocurrencies." and /blog/privacy-of-bitcoin]"Privacy of Bitcoin."
These articles are a great way to stay informed and make the most of our services.
Don't miss our /blog/top-picks-for-anonymous-bitcoin-wallets]"Top Picks for Anonymous Bitcoin Wallets" , /blog/top-anonymous-cryptocurrencies]"Top Anonymous Cryptocurrencies." and /blog/privacy-of-bitcoin]"Privacy of Bitcoin."
These articles are a great way to stay informed and make the most of our services.
Good news from Tumbler.
However, I must point out one wrong statement that I read in one of your blogs. When we talk about choosing the best Anonymous Bitcoin wallets, Ledger can't possibly be in close competition here. We all already know many of their shortcomings, but just yesterday someone published an analysis of their application and the results are in great contrast to privacy and anonymity for all users of this wallet.
They collect every piece of information about the user's activities within the wallet, from the most common scroll to assets.
Here is a Twitter thread: https://x.com/rektbuildr/status/1732542258698694875?s=20
@dkbit98 exposed it on https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63289409
Hello Everyone,
We understand that changes in strategy, especially those involving platforms like the Bitcointalk forum, can raise questions about the future direction and impact on our service. However, I'm happy to reassure you that everything is progressing smoothly and according to plan.
Our presence on the Bitcointalk forum has indeed been a significant part of our strategy, but rest assured, the current situation on the forum will not adversely affect our users or our business. We're constantly evolving and adapting to ensure the best possible service for our community.
In the meantime, I'd highly recommend checking out our latest blog posts for some exciting reads.
Don't miss our /blog/top-picks-for-anonymous-bitcoin-wallets]"Top Picks for Anonymous Bitcoin Wallets" , /blog/top-anonymous-cryptocurrencies]"Top Anonymous Cryptocurrencies." and /blog/privacy-of-bitcoin]"Privacy of Bitcoin."
These articles are a great way to stay informed and make the most of our services.
Thanks again for your support and understanding.
We're here to make sure your experience with us is nothing short of excellent.
Hey everyone,
Until 31st of December we have new conditions [banned mixer] Signature Campaign!:
Legendary payroll: $10.00 per post
Hero payroll: $8.00 per post
Sr. Member payroll: $6.00 per post
Maximum 25 posts to get paid.
Until 31st of December we have new conditions [banned mixer] Signature Campaign!:
Legendary payroll: $10.00 per post
Hero payroll: $8.00 per post
Sr. Member payroll: $6.00 per post
Maximum 25 posts to get paid.
I believe up to 60 posts per week will be paid.
edit: You're serious about this though
Now a serious question, how much will this decision affect your future business?
I assume that the presence on the Bitcointalk forum was a significant part of your service presentation strategy. It is even the only channel for communication through this forum. I understand if it is too early or too public for this kind of discussion.
Looks like you'll need to integrate an affiliate program ASAP though.
Hey everyone,
Until 31st of December we have new conditions [banned mixer] Signature Campaign!:
Legendary payroll: $10.00 per post
Hero payroll: $8.00 per post
Sr. Member payroll: $6.00 per post
Maximum 25 posts to get paid.
Until 31st of December we have new conditions [banned mixer] Signature Campaign!:
Legendary payroll: $10.00 per post
Hero payroll: $8.00 per post
Sr. Member payroll: $6.00 per post
Maximum 25 posts to get paid.
I'm grateful and excited to be one of the participants of your signature campaign, I've checked the site and I can say that it has a good design, and is newbie-friendly everything a newbie wants to know about how a mixer works is easily explained and the video summarizes it all.
The mixing industry is highly competitive but how you present your platform makes it a cut above the rest, looking forward to [banned mixer] as one of the leading brands in the community when it comes to Bitcoin mixer.
The mixing industry is highly competitive but how you present your platform makes it a cut above the rest, looking forward to [banned mixer] as one of the leading brands in the community when it comes to Bitcoin mixer.
Hi UmerIdrees,
Thanks a ton for the shout-out on our video! We really put in a lot of effort to make it straightforward and easy to grasp. It's super cool to hear you liked it. We aimed to break down our Bitcoin anonymizing service’s key goals in a fun, animated way - glad it caught your eye and gave you something to think about!
Your positive vibes mean a lot to us. It's feedback like yours that keeps us pumped and ready to create more awesome stuff.
Thanks a ton for the shout-out on our video! We really put in a lot of effort to make it straightforward and easy to grasp. It's super cool to hear you liked it. We aimed to break down our Bitcoin anonymizing service’s key goals in a fun, animated way - glad it caught your eye and gave you something to think about!
Your positive vibes mean a lot to us. It's feedback like yours that keeps us pumped and ready to create more awesome stuff.
We're stoked to hear what you think, so feel free to drop your thoughts after!
I have seen this animated video and really loved the Tumbler Character and costume in the video.
A great piece of thought process as the message is also conveyed in a lighter mode.
It's gratifying to know that someone is interested in the technical details we describe in our texts
This is a simple but crucial part of security.
From our "tests" we haven't found any project that has thought about this feature.
Probably, this feature isn't implemented due to specific 'technical challenges,' like using addresses from different wallets at the same time when creating transactions.
However, we've fully implemented this feature.
In short, we regularly switch wallets.
Everything happens automatically. For example, today deposit addresses come from wallet1, and change also goes to wallet1. Tomorrow, deposit addresses come from wallet2, and change also goes to wallet2. When all addresses from wallet1 are used, we remove that wallet.
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Is this talking just about the website/database, or does this claim also extend to the Bitcoin node(s) being used to run the service? As deleting individual addresses from the wallet.dat in the Bitcoin node has been reported to be not possible on a command-line/operational level, you would need to delete the wallet every time and restart the node, which would be seemingly infeasible for a mixer/tumbler to achieve as this would cause constant node disruption...Unless [banned mixer] can additionally claim to have also created a way to create/delete wallets automatically within the node without disrupting system operation?
This is a simple but crucial part of security.
From our "tests" we haven't found any project that has thought about this feature.
Probably, this feature isn't implemented due to specific 'technical challenges,' like using addresses from different wallets at the same time when creating transactions.
However, we've fully implemented this feature.
In short, we regularly switch wallets.
Everything happens automatically. For example, today deposit addresses come from wallet1, and change also goes to wallet1. Tomorrow, deposit addresses come from wallet2, and change also goes to wallet2. When all addresses from wallet1 are used, we remove that wallet.
I completely agree, I haven't seen any mixer claim it just yet or else I believe I'd have asked the same question. If so, it has gone over my head or there were more pressing things to ask about them.
p.s
This part is also crucial because without the ability to use addresses from different wallets when forming transactions, we wouldn't be able to fully implement transaction generation based on Blockchair patterns.
This was easily noticeable during tests when transactions described by our testers were formed using addresses of different types. At that moment, we simply took addresses from different wallets.
example
out | in
3.... | bc1..
bc1.. | client
bc1.. | 3..
This part is also crucial because without the ability to use addresses from different wallets when forming transactions, we wouldn't be able to fully implement transaction generation based on Blockchair patterns.
This was easily noticeable during tests when transactions described by our testers were formed using addresses of different types. At that moment, we simply took addresses from different wallets.
example
out | in
3.... | bc1..
bc1.. | client
bc1.. | 3..
This is on the money as well. Great job, truly. Your answers makes perfect sense and there isn't much for me to come back with in response. You have shown a good example of the careful crafting that is behind the sleek front-end with your explanation, kudos to both the work and the response, and I look forward to testing the service further in the future!
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