Topic: ⚡ [ANN] [BCL] BitcoinLatina | For Latin America | First EOS-based blockchain ⚡ - page 8. (Read 4678 times)

I was banned too few days ago, just by pointing admins on fact, that BCL-team 3 or 4 times in a row
change a date of the swap (mined coins to BitShares coins) and not keep their promises, which is totally
not appropriate for public company.

But Adam - one of the admins of telegram channel - say, it s called not the “breaking promises”, but "changes".
And if i m continue this conversation, i will be banned.

It s all the same as they close Discord channel - anyone who was disagree with something or have any concerns
against admins actions or what BCL-team is doing - was banned.

As a BCL-holder, i was very surprised, that company can threat own coin-holders like this and
think it s very unprofessional and extremely poor business ethic.

I m very disappointed in BCL, because i mined it one of the first and things looked promising and profit
was very nice, but today i m more and more don t like the way, where BCL is going.

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Here is screenshots of my conversation in the BCL official telegram channel:

Part 1:
https://hostingkartinok.com/show-image.php?id=47c2fa2bc8d177630e62662d76794784

Part 2:
https://hostingkartinok.com/show-image.php?id=db35a969f5e54acff794cea23fa5d96e

Part 3:
https://hostingkartinok.com/show-image.php?id=6b1d5e2222d3c7cdb81cb743c39695bb

i hope fopr you, your target is not too high!

i would put it up on bitshares..so you can maybe sell it, before eos hits... think about it...there are 1 billion coins...for this shit to ever reach 70bts again, it would have to beat litecoin...or cardano and neo togehter in marketcap. if i was an intial investor for 70 bts i would be more than pissed... but since they were stupid enouth to buy it for 70 bts, they are probably still in denial. they have nothing to show for, but the plan to go to eos and to "bring the blockchain to latin america with satelites" ... to say it in john gotts words... if they ever shoot up satelites, i will eat my own d**k...

This project is very different. It is centralized and intended to be regionalized (Latina). I think it has lack of transparency. I bought and sold the coins on BTS exchange, and again the price is almost being dictated as there are buyer/buyers with tons of coins at certain prices to prevent total crashed, Otherwise the price could have gone to 0.

In my opinion, HODL is the very risky.

If you guys want to help the Latina people, I know a Brazilian coin that can beat this one.
That Brazilian coin has 5 million total supply and the price is not expensive. It is minable, stackable, and also has been around for a while.
PM me if you are interested

haha really funny admins

if you ask any technical question.... and the next minute you will be banned....

i had issues with clavis wallet...so i asked their admin @ileana for help.....

she dont have knowledge  whether .exe file works on windows or MAC ..she told because of hardware issues clavis wallet not syncing .. i asked her how to back up keystore files .... the next minute she banned me.... lol

there is another admin named ADAM... i asked him about clavis issue... he told me to restart my computer ...

all admins are idiots.,... boot licking ceo JOHN for free coins.....

100 percent scam scam scam....

dont mine this coin.....you will regret later.... be aware of it.... they  banned hundrers  of  people who asked any question related  their project or about total supply of coins .....

What really makes me angry about the bcl-team. they are playing a game of "good hodl-miners" and "evil-dumper-miners" right now. They just don't have the balls to admit, that the problem was a sheer lack of knowledge about mining, the mining community and how it gives value to a coin. and even now...the admins have no idea. one of them didn't even know if the bcl-tokens that are mined right now, will turn into eos-tokens or not. my god, those people have noooo idea about crypto....

I think it creates doubts about the abilities of the team behind the project by using name of Bitcoin. Anything which use that name really doesn't look good in sense of lack of vision and confidence in their project. It could look more good being introduced with original clear name and idea juts my thoughts on this.

Ok but couldn't you have just taken an established coin and adjust the language in that wallet and provide instructions?

Changes of plans in this project are really extreme... and also I am missing some proper spanish localization

they dont have proper information about total supply of coins.,.,..

some times they says 1 billion coins...some times 10 million....

out of 1 billion coins... 50 percent going to be AIRDROPS.... lol

dont mine this ... dont invest into this.,...

total SCAM

100 percent SCAM....

this one going to become scam coin for sure....

ceo john gotts changing decisions from time to time... he is doing doing everything in  centralized way

admins - they are pity..if we ask any technical questions..they will ran away or block you for sure... 100 % scam....

everyone dumping this coin... within 2 weeks of time price drops from 70 bts to 3 bts

dont believe in this project.... the team and admins are very arrogant... they dont have knowledge about any technical things... they cant even help you with wallet issues....

its a centralized concept... they dont give value to miners... we dont have freedom to move coins from wallet to exchange.... for everything we should mail to CEO... if he show mercy on you, then he will add coins on exchange... totally crap

What does it mean to be "implementing" EOS?
EOS is a smart contract platform, so will this be a token running on top of EOS?

If you have BCL in your clavis wallet it is there until the CEO allows you to transfer, currently the only way to transfer from clavis to bitshares is 100% at the discretion of the CEO

By his grace alone are we allowed to mine his coin, it is by his grace and mercy we are given the honor and virtue of being a part of his coin.

WE THANK THEE OH MIGHTY CEO SHALL YOUR PRAISE BE EVER KNOWN!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone sing

"Oh praise the mighty ceo for his is the only coin, we thank thee oh mighty ceo thy grace is ever present........."

It is by your hand alone we are honored with the coin.

Let us pray.......

I read a few times but not understand. Is there 2 BCL? in clavis and bitshares. I'm a holder for all coins,not a trader. I won't sell any coin until my target will reach.what do you suggest for me,hold in clavis or bitshares?

Well said, the "CEO" of BCL will eventually if not already dig the grave for this project. He lacks professionalism which is apparent in everything he does.

No one does this, not a single coin I have ever heard of does this. You're asking miners to send you, in good faith, a non-reversible transaction and trusting that you will honor the 1:1 exchange. While I do not speak for everyone......I find this highly suspect and this issue should have been addressed prior to the launch of the coin. I mean....did you all really think....I mean really think miners would mine for months and months and not want to sell? Further, did you really think so many coins would not be mined? And the only reason you're moving to EOS is you hate that miners can get your coin for pennies, it literally costs pennies to mine a single coin. Which investor bought for 60+ bts per coin prior to mining and I bet they are PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!

So, you have a real issue on your hands.......

1. You create a mineable coin/token ---- Made its value approx. $15 per coin/token
2. Sold investors on your coin/token at $15 a coin/token
3. Miners came in and the instant you realized....oh shit.....the coin/token is costing them pennies to mine.
4. You then realized the moment those 1 million+ coins hit the market.....EVEN IF, they sold at 30 BTS per coin....A HUGE PROFIT for mining
5. It was going to crash your market

Now here's where you went wrong, your team pissed off A LOT of miners.

Had you not banned every single person that had any question about your coin/token/foundation, shit would have gone smooth as silk. We would have been happy to put our coins up for 60+ BTS no issue. Problem is you pissed off miners......we will sell every coin we mined at cost....maybe a little more......guess what happened......well you don't have to you can see the value of BCL.

The only reason you want EOS is so you can remove cheap coins from your market.

What you should have done is not copy and pasted eth - you should have built in diff spikes and or increased the block time / reduced coin reward to more closely match the results you expected.

You guys have a team of business minded folks totally respect that 1000% and I am sure you guys kill it in the business world, but as I said before miners are a fickle group of people. Sure, a lot of people in the crypto industry are business minded but very weary of anything that even seems a bit off.

Oh, sure you will have miners no problem but the real miners, the BIG players with 5+ GH/s farms......you will not get many of those.

You know what though, I could be totally wrong. I have a bit of BCL that I will be holding and I hope that come June I will be able to sell it for 100 BTS each. If that day comes and is a reality great!

Still does not negate all that has happened these past two weeks.

If you think you can hide behind the safety of Telegram and ban all that dare enter, that's on you. But here, on this forum.....You can’t silence us. This is where we live BCT Forum is home!

Thats all well and good but without mining how will the people access the token/coin and without a way to sell mined coins after sunday - 3-4-2018 ---- people cant mine for 3 months and not sell.

There's nothing to stop the world from using it but Latino expats sending money home to the family might very well prefer the familiarity of language and cutting out the middleman (Western Union) to get a cheaper deal. That a coin is in their language with a web design look and feel that speaks to their culture would certainly make it easier for the expat to help get their family member crypto savvy. We're still in early adoption phase, especially in SA.

so far I haven't received any answer from the team 
smell like a scam, be carfull with your hashpower....

I am disappointed by the admins ... this morning I asked them questions and tonight I am learning that I am ban of their channel telegram. My english is not perfect ok but i'm not insulting anyone.
This is the first time that I ban I have asked questions about the sequence of events. I bet he will ban me with my email so I could not even sell my mine
I support the project and I was preparing a video on the subject. But now my opinion is changing. I hope at least an explanation of the admins

I know of 1 person who 100% has not received their coins they sent in.

If they choose to voice their concerns here I am sure they will.

As for me? I will keep my coins.

Also, I have shut down my bitcoinlatina pool and all payments have been processed.

Good luck everyone with your future ventures, I wish you the best but i am outta here!