Topic: [ANN] Bisq - Exchange, Decentralized. - page 2. (Read 2886 times)

I've been using Bisq 1.9.12 for the last month or so, and I love the new clone offer feature.  It allows a maker to create one offer, but clone it to use different payment methods.  For example, if I want to sell some bitcoin, but I don't care if I'm paid via Zelle or Strike, I can create one offer for Zelle, submit my maker fee and security deposit, and publish the offer.  Then I can clone the Zelle offer and change the payment method to Stirke, and I want to set a different margin for Strike payments, I do that as well.  If I use a trigger, I can different prices set for the cloned offer also.  I don't need to submit another maker fee or security deposit, both offers share the same fees and security deposit.  When a peer takes one of the cloned offers, both offers are removed from the market.

This will help makers by allowing them to use one offer (and one security deposit,) but advertise it in two or more markets.

Some other improvements made to V1.9.12:

That would be pretty cool.  I know they have the intent to implement lightning functions in BisqV2, but I wasn't sure about Bisq1.  I don't think Bisq1 would work for lightning to fiat due to the multi-sig "escrow" function, but lightning to on-chain would still be nice.

BISQ announced earlier today that they're soon going to implement the lightning network[1]. Maybe Bitcoin Ordinals is what we needed to push services to adopt LN.

[1] https://twitter.com/bisq_network/status/1654444075112865795

Yeah, and your personal data is only disclosed if you're trading BTC to fiat.  I like to swing trade BTC for XMR as a way to grow my BTC holdings, and of course there's no personal data shared during those transactions, only BTC and XMR addresses.


You're sure to find a bunch of offers for Euros, I see many with payments in Revolut, Swift, and Wise, and I'm sure there are other payment types that I don't know about. I don't know for a fact, but I'd wager there are more offers for Euros than USD.


I've never used the gift card method myself, but they are common for USD as well as Euros, and yes I see many of them. 

Thank you for explaining the anonymity promoted by the platform.
Of course, there always has to be some sharing of information, but as you deal with other people directly, you are less exposed to information going to third parties.

I will install the application again and explore it further. And to realize in Europe how dynamic the platform is.

Payments with Amazon Gift Card, have you never used it or is it not common in your area? I remember seeing that option there, which I thought was interesting.

Probably as unless you're installing a new OS to a free partition, you'd be testing it in a Live environment, which isn't really ideal for long-term use imo. Ideally you'd have an external hard-drive you could install a lightweight Linux distro onto, then you wouldn't be running it Live each time. In summary, when there is a single high memory demanding software you want to run, then a specific OS isn't a bad idea.


I wouldn't go quite that far to be honest! At least testing it with a Live Linux distro would answer the questions about your RAM, as to whether you have genuine hardware issues running the software or not...

It can be a bit confusing at first, but once you get the hang of it, it's actually pretty simple to use.  The great thing about Bisq is that they have a lot of really good tutorials, and the team tends to be very active on the matrix chat, so getting help is pretty easy.


It's not perfect, there are issues that pop up once in a while.  Depending on the general market, getting bites on your offers can take a while some times.  Other times they get snagged up pretty darn quick.  If your offers have attractive rates, they get snagged up fairly quickly, but no where near as fast as the big CEXs.  I think this mostly has to do with how many (or few, rather) people are using Bisq.  Once the software is able to attract more users, a lot of these issues will go away.


The privacy features are second to none.  There's no KYC and they don't store any of your personal information on a server, not even the details of your payment accounts.  All that information stays on your local machine, and the only time any information is disclosed, it's only to your trade partner while the trade is open.  That means there are no servers to get hacked and no data breaches that can leak your info.

Once you set up an account on Bisq, the only identifier other peers will see is an onion address.  If you take or make a BTC to Fiat offer, the other peer will see your name and email address.  But again, the information is only visible to that peer during the time the trade is open.


I'm a US resident, so for USD Zelle or Strike are the most commonly preferred methods of payment.  Obviously they're not anonymous since both require KYC to set up, but still fairly private since you don't have to disclose much about yourself.  There are anonymous ways you can exchange fiat for BTC, such as USPS money orders which are safe and don't require the use of real names (unless you're the recipient and want to deposit the MO digitally.)  The only truly anonymous ways to trade BTC for Fiat is face to face cash transactions, and there a few of those offers near and around my area.

I happened to install Bisq once, but found it a bit complex and confusing to work with.

Overall, what do you guys think of Bisq?
I think it's a good solution to buy in P2P model without registrations and KYC?
In terms of privacy, how do you rate it?
What payment method do you usually use, to be as anonymous as possible?

Interesting development regarding running Bisq on a headless server; one of the contributors just posted a guide to set up a headless Bisq instance on a remote server, and included instructions on how to access it from another device with a head-up display.  The process uses a third party, open-source (GNU) software, XPRA to connect to the headless instance.  I have not tried this, so I don't know how well it works, but it seems like a great rainy-day project.

The setup instructions can be found here:  https://github.com/apemithrandir/self-hosting-guide/blob/main/headless-bisq/GUIDE.md

News from my side:

unbearable, I don't know exactly what I've done that fixed it but I'm now fine with Bisq. I'm playing since the week end and not a single problem.
I'm so used to have problems that now it' works I think there is a problem



I don't know why I have never think about this solution.
What a dumbass I can be 


The latest version is 1.9.9, and you're instally the version 1.9.8
Not so important but I noticed it.

The connection to the Tor network has often been a problem for me. I failed so many times despite I changed the bridge.
At a time I started to suspect my ISP 

I'm not 100% sure, but I think the app attempts to download the update files over TOR.  If that's the case, and your TOR connection isn't perfect I can see that happening.  In fact, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often, and also surprised it's never happened to me.  I can't tell what OS you're using, but the manual install works well on Windows.

yap, you have to do it manually. I also experienced this and I followed the suggestion from @dkbit98 & @n0nce, I manually reinstalled on github with the latest version and deleted the old bisq application files.

So it's a new fresh day with my PC restarting a fresh, but I am still having the same problem, trying to download installer and Verify signature via the application.

Again it all seems like the download is almost successful, and then it pops up this error


My internet speed is also now good



I guess I will just have to go the manual way.

I was also having problems with the TOR network for a moment when I did a successful update, and I put a custom TOR network on according to the instructions from the app - I also restarted my PC and now everything is running smoothly.

The same problem happened to me a few days back, the file would download to around halfway and then all of a sudden fail. My network was not at its best, so it could have probably been the network, though some other apps could download and update without a single problem

I will try again and see if it can now update.

This would be an argument for testing with a lightweight live Xcfe-based Linux environment that only uses 531MB ram, such as Mint.

But I also realise this isn't the long-term or ideal solution to the problem you are experiencing...

Either way, 2GB is quite a lot of memory to be demanding from lower grade hardware.

thanks for your quick response, i just did what you did, i re-downloaded it from github, and now i'm ready with the new version


ok, I've re-downloaded and removed the old files

Looks totally normal to me. Files were downloaded and verified. Just need to close the program, install the update (double-click Bisq-64bit-1.9.9.exe) and then delete those files (you don't need them anymore).

I don't know what's the issue in your case, but you can try downloading Bisq directly from official website or github and install application manually.
OP is not active in forum since 2022, but you can contact Bisq support in other ways that can be found on their website:
https://bisq.wiki/User_support

hi OP, what should I do because i can't update my Bisq app??