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March 13, 2023, 04:53:16 PM
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think the app attempts to download the update files over TOR.  If that's the case, and your TOR connection isn't perfect I can see that happening.  In fact, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often, and also surprised it's never happened to me.  I can't tell what OS you're using, but the manual install works well on Windows.
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March 13, 2023, 03:48:05 AM
I was also having problems with the TOR network for a moment when I did a successful update, and I put a custom TOR network on according to the instructions from the app - I also restarted my PC and now everything is running smoothly.
So it's a new fresh day with my PC restarting a fresh, but I am still having the same problem, trying to download installer and Verify signature via the application.

Again it all seems like the download is almost successful, and then it pops up this error


My internet speed is also now good



I guess I will just have to go the manual way.

yap, you have to do it manually. I also experienced this and I followed the suggestion from @dkbit98 & @n0nce, I manually reinstalled on github with the latest version and deleted the old bisq application files.
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March 12, 2023, 07:47:45 PM
I was also having problems with the TOR network for a moment when I did a successful update, and I put a custom TOR network on according to the instructions from the app - I also restarted my PC and now everything is running smoothly.
So it's a new fresh day with my PC restarting a fresh, but I am still having the same problem, trying to download installer and Verify signature via the application.

Again it all seems like the download is almost successful, and then it pops up this error


My internet speed is also now good



I guess I will just have to go the manual way.
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March 12, 2023, 01:39:36 AM
hi OP, what should I do because i can't update my Bisq app??

https://i.imgur.com/Y5iY1qO.png
The same problem happened to me a few days back, the file would download to around halfway and then all of a sudden fail. My network was not at its best, so it could have probably been the network, though some other apps could download and update without a single problem

I will try again and see if it can now update.

I was also having problems with the TOR network for a moment when I did a successful update, and I put a custom TOR network on according to the instructions from the app - I also restarted my PC and now everything is running smoothly.
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March 11, 2023, 07:46:58 PM
hi OP, what should I do because i can't update my Bisq app??

https://i.imgur.com/Y5iY1qO.png
The same problem happened to me a few days back, the file would download to around halfway and then all of a sudden fail. My network was not at its best, so it could have probably been the network, though some other apps could download and update without a single problem

I will try again and see if it can now update.
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March 11, 2023, 02:09:02 PM
Since then, I tried it on another laptop and it's the same thing. But I'm not surprised since it has the same specs.
Bisq uses a little less than 2gb ram on my side, and Win 10 alone uses ~2gb ram

This would be an argument for testing with a lightweight live Xcfe-based Linux environment that only uses 531MB ram, such as Mint.

But I also realise this isn't the long-term or ideal solution to the problem you are experiencing...

Either way, 2GB is quite a lot of memory to be demanding from lower grade hardware.
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March 10, 2023, 04:56:06 PM
hi OP, what should I do because i can't update my Bisq app??
I don't know what's the issue in your case, but you can try downloading Bisq directly from official website or github and install application manually.
OP is not active in forum since 2022, but you can contact Bisq support in other ways that can be found on their website:
https://bisq.wiki/User_support

thanks for your quick response, i just did what you did, i re-downloaded it from github, and now i'm ready with the new version Wink

hi OP, what should I do because i can't update my Bisq app??


Looks totally normal to me. Files were downloaded and verified. Just need to close the program, install the update (double-click Bisq-64bit-1.9.9.exe) and then delete those files (you don't need them anymore).

ok, I've re-downloaded and removed the old files Grin
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March 10, 2023, 01:29:01 PM
hi OP, what should I do because i can't update my Bisq app??


Looks totally normal to me. Files were downloaded and verified. Just need to close the program, install the update (double-click Bisq-64bit-1.9.9.exe) and then delete those files (you don't need them anymore).
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March 10, 2023, 01:27:47 PM
hi OP, what should I do because i can't update my Bisq app??
I don't know what's the issue in your case, but you can try downloading Bisq directly from official website or github and install application manually.
OP is not active in forum since 2022, but you can contact Bisq support in other ways that can be found on their website:
https://bisq.wiki/User_support



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March 10, 2023, 01:11:19 PM
hi OP, what should I do because i can't update my Bisq app??

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March 03, 2023, 08:36:22 AM
No, it's a laptop.

Since then, I tried it on another laptop and it's the same thing. But I'm not surprised since it has the same specs.
Bisq uses a little less than 2gb ram on my side, and Win 10 alone uses ~2gb ram

I will soon receive a Beelink SEi12 with 16 gb ram for my house. As I only need it for a bare metal hypervisor (ESXI), I will have plenty of memory for Bisq. (hopefully)

But thank you very much, I have rarely met a guy on the web willing to give me something for free.
Trully appreciated  Smiley
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February 22, 2023, 10:07:53 PM
Same here, I didn't find anything relevent about the minimum system requirements, not even a discussion, so I concluded there is no difference in this matter.

And yeah, I'm the guy who has always a problem with Bisq lol. I have 4 gb ram but in reality I have 6 gb. I think there is 2 gb used as like a swap file for Linux.
Intel I5 5200U [email protected] Ghz It should be enough as a system basically because Bisq is not a software doing millions of computations per second, or a super super heavy video game.

I know using a server for this purpose is not a good security practice and I have listed the risks. Considering that I don't store funds, unless a person in control of the server clicks to confirm a transaction, releases the collateral and transfers it to his wallet.

So I'm only risking the collateral. Knowing that I don't do big transactions... I try to weigh the pros and cons but I don't see something else 'dangerous'...

Is your machine a desktop?  If so, I have a pair of 4GB RAM sticks (8GB total,) that should work with your chipset.  They are Micron MT8KTF51264AZ-1G6E1, if you care to confirm.  I don't need any money for them.  If you wish to remain discreet, I'll send them to MJ and you'll have to pay shipping to your location.

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off-topic, but how that comes above CPU @ 2.20 is linking to mailto:[email protected]
 Huh

Not sure what this is about, something you're seeing in the bios, or a CLI report?  I don't see anything like that from my lshw or lscpu reports.

Are you trying to run Bisq on a headless server? What for? Can you interact with it on the command-line? I was actually wondering about that the other day...

I think he's talking about renting remote hardware or a cloud server to install an OS with a GUI dedicated to running Bisq.  Again, it's not something I would recommend from a security and privacy perspective, and I doubt it would be cost effective over time. 

Bisq uses between 1.5 and 2GB of memory on my machine, so 4-6GB should suffice. Operating systems also have swap in case you fill your actual RAM completely. So that's not really a reason for software not to start at all, but heavy swap usage would be slower and degrade your SSD over time.

Yeah, swap space sholdn't be counted as part of your RAM capacity, it's for "emergency" use only as far as prioritizing processes.  And SATA is no where near as fast as DDR3 RAM, so there's that.
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February 22, 2023, 08:10:47 PM
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Are you trying to run Bisq on a headless server? What for? Can you interact with it on the command-line? I was actually wondering about that the other day...
I can say that it runs perfectly well on a 4-th gen Intel Core i5 and 8GB of RAM. Anything newer, obviously, too, but this is the oldest configuration I've tried. It was a little slow and took some time to fully load, but it was fine.

Bisq uses between 1.5 and 2GB of memory on my machine, so 4-6GB should suffice. Operating systems also have swap in case you fill your actual RAM completely. So that's not really a reason for software not to start at all, but heavy swap usage would be slower and degrade your SSD over time.
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February 22, 2023, 07:17:58 PM
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Same here, I didn't find anything relevent about the minimum system requirements, not even a discussion, so I concluded there is no difference in this matter.

And yeah, I'm the guy who has always a problem with Bisq lol. I have 4 gb ram but in reality I have 6 gb. I think there is 2 gb used as like a swap file for Linux.
Intel I5 5200U [email protected] Ghz It should be enough as a system basically because Bisq is not a software doing millions of computations per second, or a super super heavy video game.

I know using a server for this purpose is not a good security practice and I have listed the risks. Considering that I don't store funds, unless a person in control of the server clicks to confirm a transaction, releases the collateral and transfers it to his wallet.

So I'm only risking the collateral. Knowing that I don't do big transactions... I try to weigh the pros and cons but I don't see something else 'dangerous'...

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off-topic, but how that comes above CPU @ 2.20 is linking to mailto:[email protected]
 Huh
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February 22, 2023, 11:17:26 AM
#98
Hi guys,

I'm looking for a recommandation.

I'm ready to give up to use Bisq. Each time it's a nightmare and I'm lucky when I finish a TX.
However, I'm ready to give a last chance and to try to use it with a virtual server. What specs should I buy to be 'safe' (RAM and CPU).
It will be based on KVM, so the ressources will be 'dedicated'

I looked through Bisq's documentation, but I couldn't find any mention of the minimum system requirements or any recommendations.  I went back and looked at your previous post about your hardware issues, and I see that you only have 4GB of ram on your current rig.  That seems rather light, but it should be enough for a light weight OS such as Debian.  If you're running Windows I would recommend at least 8GB.  I don't think that Bisq software requires much in the way of processing power, so a dual-core processor should be enough, but again, that would somewhat depend on the OS you are using.  If you're a Windows user I would recommend a minimum 4-Core processor.

I've been hearing good things about the ZimaBoard 832, which is a single board computer with a quad-core Celeron processor and 8GB of RAM.  They sell for about $180 on Amazon, and are capable of running Windows.  In the long-run something like that might be cheaper than running Bisq on VPS, and certainly more secure.  Personally, I wouldn't want to run wallet software (even if it is just a hot wallet,) on a cloud-based system.

I have a couple of old lap-tops in storage, but I don't remember what their specs are.  I'll pull them out and inspect them this weekend, and if they're capable I'll let you know.  I'd be willing to part with one (or both) for very little money, if you're interested.
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February 22, 2023, 08:27:55 AM
#97
Hi guys,

I'm looking for a recommandation.

I'm ready to give up to use Bisq. Each time it's a nightmare and I'm lucky when I finish a TX.
However, I'm ready to give a last chance and to try to use it with a virtual server. What specs should I buy to be 'safe' (RAM and CPU).
It will be based on KVM, so the ressources will be 'dedicated'
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February 21, 2023, 09:30:00 PM
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It's interesting idea, but I would rather like to see some light version of Bisq exchange that could run on mobile devices.
Maybe you won't be able to use all features from desktop version, but you could make trades and do basic functions.

I agree with n0nce on this one; as it is a program like bisq would have a hard time running on a mobile device.  The only way would it could work if bisq could run as a background service as he and I discussed in our recent posts, or trust some third party to host your seed which would be a non-starter for me.


I am waiting to see what is going to happen when Bisq 2.0 comes out, and I heard some rumors release is not far away, and this will be a major change.
I would wait for this new release to come out before making any new suggestions to Bisq devs.

I wouldn't expect much in the way of development of Bisq v1 either.  If a CLI API with a frontend is to be developed I doubt we'll see it before v2 is released.

Which brings up a good point; I know there are a few good developers here, and the Bisq team could use help with developing the user interface for v2.  It's easy to request compensation for your contribution, so anyone who thinks they can help I encourage you to mosey on over to their matrix room to learn more:  https://matrix.to/#/#bisq.v2.dev:bitcoin.kyoto
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February 21, 2023, 08:13:27 PM
#95
If there is interest for such functionality, I'd look into suggesting it to the Bisq development team or do some work on it myself.
It's interesting idea, but I would rather like to see some light version of Bisq exchange that could run on mobile devices.
Maybe you won't be able to use all features from desktop version, but you could make trades and do basic functions.
I am waiting to see what is going to happen when Bisq 2.0 comes out, and I heard some rumors release is not far away, and this will be a major change.
I would wait for this new release to come out before making any new suggestions to Bisq devs.
The problem with mobile devices is that they are usually only able to run software in the background for a limited amount of time. Keeping up a Tor connection for hours or days to host your trade is not something your mobile device battery will really enjoy. It may actually not be possible; mobile OSes might kill long running background tasks after a while.
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February 21, 2023, 01:09:09 PM
#94
If there is interest for such functionality, I'd look into suggesting it to the Bisq development team or do some work on it myself.
It's interesting idea, but I would rather like to see some light version of Bisq exchange that could run on mobile devices.
Maybe you won't be able to use all features from desktop version, but you could make trades and do basic functions.
I am waiting to see what is going to happen when Bisq 2.0 comes out, and I heard some rumors release is not far away, and this will be a major change.
I would wait for this new release to come out before making any new suggestions to Bisq devs.
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February 20, 2023, 11:13:06 PM
#93
I've heard that this functionality is in the works. It will be pretty awesome to have Bisq running on a home server with the ability to access all it's features from a mobile app or a webpage.
Really? Where did you hear that, if I may ask?

Some reddit post from an unknown individual, lol.  Sorry, I didn't mean to get your hopes up or make it sound like I heard it from a reliable source.

The CLI options certainly make it possible for some crafty individual to develop a frontend.  The software is Java based, but I don't think the API cares what language is used for the frontend.

That would be awesome, indeed. I envision something like Ride-The-Lightning, which is accessible from any of your devices that runs Tor Browser. A phone app could connect to it, too, similarly to how SPV wallets (desktop or mobile) can connect to your full node's Electrum Server through Tor.

Lol, RTL (and Electrs) is what I was updating yesterday.  I'm sensing some cosmic-wavelength-connection here...  either that or you installed a key logger on my 'puter.   Shocked  Wink
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