Topic: [Ann] BitAuction - BitBay Development Transfer (Read 4284 times)

50 shares = 1.25 BTC invested.

I do not live in the US, no point calling the police.

I don't care taking justice by my own methods.

I just want my money back. At this rates is 525 USD... are they so poor they can't repay from their own pockets?

Life is a long hard road and karma is a bitch.

It's still cheap to get even with this debt.

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According to some analysts, once the new US law rules for crytpocurrency gain traction, one bitcoin could be worth as much as $10,000 within 18-24 months.

I'll take his 1 btc if he doesn't want it, LOL

Going to the police with something like this is more pointless than writing about it endlessly in this topic. At least the comments makes the community aware.

I honestly don't care enough to pursue this seriously.
I only replied, because it was just a few days ago I remembered this, and wrote to Cassie about a refund.

If I'd have an opportunity to get my money back I'd take it, but 1 BTC simply not enough to make me care enough to get out of my chair.

Yeah, as Cheeky suggested, your best bet is to get all the folks who were scammed together and see who's willing to say 'yeah i got jipped'. Someone, preferably US-based, would then have to contact the police. Might even do better to hire a lawyer, but the police are free.

With the US recently defining cryptocurrency as personal property, the case would have considerable weight in court because of the USD investment. The folk(s) at hand would face more than just fines, they would face jail time, and if there are any forensic ties to other digital crimes, they will not get out of it with a plea deal. The US Justice Dept has been cranking down on digital crimes lately. If they're found guilty, they'll be hating life.

I've been encouraging many folks who feel scammed, to pursue legal action in the US. Until more folks do, more scammers will just keep flooding the markets.

@Vega
@Transit

Hi guys,

I have been following development (or lack of it) since the whole scam came about.

Seriously, please do not even think about tracing and then 'meeting' those who stand accused of scamming. They are not worth it.

As mentioned several times before, the best course of action would be to call the police and let them deal with it. Once someone who resides in the US contacts their law enforcement office and gets the ball rolling, the police will contact those who received the investment and ask exactly what was going on and they will take measures to get your BTC back.

The mind boggles at the fact that this whole thing has been so disastrously mismanaged. Others have tried to talk to the main protagonists and had their time wasted. I have stopped engaging directly with them as they are not worth a single iota of space.

DaemonFox, VesperWillow and others have tried and failed to make the wrong-doers see sense. We all had our time wasted with hearing talk from the main protagonists of doing 'this' and doing 'that' but in the end those words were without merit.

Please call the police and get your money back but do not try and take things in your own hands.

Agree, how can we find Cassie?

Her real info, family, etc.

My real problem is with Cassie to be honest. She took my investment when she were already fully aware of the problem with Justin. I invested (the second time) 0.75 BTC into the site that Justin said will be launched next day. Not in development, done. I even posted about this before investing.
Cassie sent a PM with Bitcoin address a few hours later. She did it this way, because she knew already that Justin scammed her. She knew she will not be able do deliver, yet she continued to collect money for a site supposed to be launched in days, without saying a word.
She sent out (probably not just to me) PMs to people who said wanted shares then presumable after they paid, she annonced that the site fall through.
Now that is the definition of scam.

How can we start making this scammer's life a living hell, legally speaking?

I don't live in the US but I wouldn't mind go there and kick his ass during the next rally.

Or maybe burn the house. 

The farce is continuing over here in original thread for the so-called BitBay 'project' https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bitbay-commission-bonds-thread-359608

This situation has got so pathetic and ridiculous it is unbelievable... yet it seems (according to Justin) that Cassie and Justin have kissed and reconciled yet still they will not return investors money!

This isn't about OpenEX and Justin is no longer involved with OpenEX in any way.

Doubtful he's going to follow through. Even if he does, he's still guilty, and by defrauding the website he's just added more charges. Kid has no idea what he's doing or how deep the hole is getting. All it takes is for a handful of us to file a report in his county, and he's done for.

Also, call and complain if you like:

We all hope Justin pays back the money he took without consent and we hope once all this is done and dusted, I am sure we all hope he can start to repair the damage done to his reputation.

The value of the property stolen basically means he's looking at felonies, class1 or 2 depending. Money laundering and grand theft easily, among others. The fact is he took it without permission of the owners, he did so acting as majority shareholder when he wasn't, he failed to include the share's owners in on the information prior, etc. The crimes have been committed and charges can be brought by anyone at this time. The situation is well documented, and  more of his personal and family details are available to make this happen.

It's in his best interest legally to return all shares immediately, not weeks from now. An LLC will not spare him or his family from the brunt of the legal fallout, especially an uninsured LLC like his. Honestly it makes it worst, it goes from a he-said-she-said to making him culpable by default.

Justin, fair warning buddy. Immediate means immediate, those returns need to start flowing today. You're in hot water and I don't think you grasp the severity of the situation.

That seems to seal the deal then. Sadly it seems Justin has no reputation left to salvage now so where does that leave all the investors with any chance of getting their money back?

I believe Justin has also been thrown off the OpenEx dev team .....

LOL now this is funny Openex the exchange with the welcome mat on the backdoor? OpenEx is just a rebranded version of icescrypt (another exchange that was robbed of all its coin) that he sold off don't think he ever paid off the customers there either.

You sir are a scammer plain and simple.

Personally speaking, when I saw the fact that Justin started a thread and had negative things to say about Cassie I concluded there was more this than met the eye. When Cassie posted the Skype chat transcript it became clear she was by far being more honest than he was. I never knew either of them but could tell that Justin was not playing ball.

Having said all that, there is an issue at the heart of this debacle and that is more prominent than others, namely the issue of the investors BTC.

Does anyone know exactly how much BTC Justin took with him when he departed Cassie's project? There needs to be clarity on exactly what amount of BTC he took without consent and how much was left with Cassie. Then there needs to be clarity as to which investors BTC remained with Cassie and which investors BTC were taken by Justin.

The chances are Cassie will honour the investments she holds but Justin has probably spent his holdings of your BTC on his personal leisure and living costs so it could be problematic getting him to return what many deem as stolen funds.

I hope someone might be able to get a full list of all investors of the original project and then ask Cassie which investors funds she claims to hold and which investors fund she claims Justin had taken when he departed the project. Then those need to be cross referenced with Justin.

This whole project got ruined when Justin departed. The project was always going to survive if a coder left but where it all went wrong was when he took the funds without asking Cassie. That episode of Justin taking BTC without consent has cast a dark shadow over this project and it is unfair.

He made allegations about Cassie emptying his wallet and tried to sell more shares in his solo project without telling people the truth about his plans too so it means Justin cannot be trusted with your BTC. Before investors lose everything they put in to this project please find out which funds Justin claims to hold and which funds Cassie claims to hold, then go forward from there.

Justin has stated that hes never going to open the site.

Justin is going rogue it seems. Id like my refund now.
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