Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees - page 221. (Read 704531 times)

Bitcoincash, the technology development of this coin is worth looking forward to. Maybe one day it will go beyond bitcoin.

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you're a fucking troll paid, you only come here to cheat people who are interested in bitcoin cash with false information

People do not need your false help, whoever wants to see both sides can read the pro btc forum.

But in the btc forum they will not find anything, basically because they censor any discussion, the reason, they do not have arguments to debate. They just pay trolls like you and fill the forums with them.

Bitcon Cash

Instant transactions thanks to 0 confirmation

Rates of 1sat / byte in ANY SITUATION, that is 0.002 cents and will continue like this thanks to the increase of 32mb

https://cash.coin.dance/development



Bitcoin Core (paypal 2.0)

1.2mb!

Hold!

Bcash! Bcash!

LN! ... (smoke)

You are a sold

segwet is more than what you said in your opening comment..dont care about you now saying, it is the best fix available...you could have said that before, but you choose not to, you choose to lie saying it only served one purpose.... and make out i knew nothing...

 
you know fine well...no segwet ,no ln as loss of funds would be a deal breaker as you just said.

then you say...reason bitmain etc do not like segwit is that it blocks their use of covert asicboost
so another purpose of segwet..other than malleability and using to use ln...
so much for it only serving one purpose as you claimed earlier.

Lightning network requires just a malleability fix it does not need to be segwit it just happens that segwit is the best fix available

Yes it will work without segwit or a malleability fix but the smart contract that holds the funds securely on chain is identified by it's transaction id it will work just fine without segwit or a malleability fix the only time a issue would arise is if the opening transaction gets affected by this bug and would result is total loss of funds nothing more and this would be a deal breaker

One of the proposed malleability fixes for BCH moves the signature out of the transaction area the exact same way as segwit with the only difference being that on BCH it's just moved permanently and everyone is forced to the new system while segwit just moves it to a separate merkle tree if the user chooses to use segwit and the user still has the option to use it or carry on using  legacy addresses with the signature still in the transaction area

The only reason bitmain etc do not like segwit is that it blocks their use of covert asicboost which takes away their advantage and also gives them incentives to not include some transactions which also explains why bitmain mine so many blocks with little to no transactions in them compared to other pools now BTC is able to use overt asicboost that gives a similar advantage to covert bit it also works with segwit and removes the incentive to produce empty blocks and is public knowledge as to who is using it there is a block explorer here with blocks found using overt asicboost https://asicboost.dance

It seems very soon markets will be turned into bullish and all projects will move to new high time easily. All weak hands almost out from this journey so they will miss this chance to make huge profit.

Big Forex Platform LMAX getting into cryptotrading by new  LMAX Digital

http://elexonic.com/2018/03/10/we-all-better-listen-up-the-ceo-of-an-fx-trading-firm-says-wall-street-needs-to-pay-attention-to-the-breakneck-growth-of-crypto-exchanges/

Is segregated witness necessary to implement the Lightning Network?
Lightning Network (LN) uses payment channels with Hashed TimeLock Contracts. Both of those things are currently usable on Bitcoin mainnet without segregated witness.
https://segwit.org/is-segregated-witness-necessary-to-implement-the-lightning-network-6c4545a9f9f1

https://www.anythingcrypto.com/guides/segwit-bitcoin-lightning-network-explained
What is the Lightning Network

The Lightning Network is very different to Segwit. It proposes using smart contracts to create payment channels that only have to sync with the blockchain after a fixed amount of time. e.g. multiple payments might be processed off the blockchain, then all of them added in one blockchain transaction. This raises security concerns about users creating fake payments - which is why Segwit also needs be implemented (as it solves this security issue). Often Segwit and the Lightning Network will be discussed in the same threads because of its reliance on Segwit.

True or False?

I'm not trying to convince them that is a dead end but leave true information so newcomers can come and see both sides, do their own research and come to their own conclusion
Unlike the Bcash crew that is just out to decieve everyone

ABC is indeed dominant client, but BUCash is doing pretty well (470 nodes, 31,8% of the network) https://cashnodes.bitcoinunlimited.info/
Also, nodes are being upgraded, actually - 87 nodes have 0.17 installed.

You asked for my own words,lol

right think about this,what has happened with both coins...
BCH on every exchange...becoming more popular everyday...
BCH has a growing list of merchants...
Alot of $investment has been put into BCH in such a short time period...the old skool btc guys are all in BCH..why?

btc since segwit has lost so many huge merchants, making it unusable as a currency
It has not been a good store of value either...
   

yea i know nothing  
oh as for why i go on about LN and link segwet to it all the time...
Is segregated witness necessary to implement the Lightning Network?
Lightning Network (LN) uses payment channels with Hashed TimeLock Contracts. Both of those things are currently usable on Bitcoin mainnet without segregated witness.
https://segwit.org/is-segregated-witness-necessary-to-implement-the-lightning-network-6c4545a9f9f1

https://www.anythingcrypto.com/guides/segwit-bitcoin-lightning-network-explained
What is the Lightning Network

The Lightning Network is very different to Segwit. It proposes using smart contracts to create payment channels that only have to sync with the blockchain after a fixed amount of time. e.g. multiple payments might be processed off the blockchain, then all of them added in one blockchain transaction. This raises security concerns about users creating fake payments - which is why Segwit also needs be implemented (as it solves this security issue). Often Segwit and the Lightning Network will be discussed in the same threads because of its reliance on Segwit.

Tek you know all this...are you part of the game?    


All we are doing is chatting, while waiting for the inevitable,
BCH will become defacto bitcoin...segwet free.

It is impressive you are still trying to talk sense to these fucktards. You can't make them see what's going on while they are paid to spread FUD. On the other hand we shouldn't be letting them FUD neither because crypto community is so new, some people will get deceived by these clowns eventually.

I remember when I was neutral to this whole bcash unlimited-Bitcoin debate back then. One of these retards was advising me to not read reddit too much. I read even more and I see who's evil now.

Here another merit for your efforts. You are doing god's work.

I rest my case you could not give 1 valid reason I asked about segwit and you go off on some bullshit rant about LN

LN is not setwit LN is a payment network and segwit is a transaction malleability fix nothing more.

It moves the signature data to a different part of the block out of the transaction area that's all it does nothing more

Thankyou for confirming you know nothing

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Nonsense. I've made my opinion clear numerous times. Didn't seem worthwhile to go through it yet again.

In a nutshell, The SegWit Omnibus Changeset is about the worst imaginable solution to a nonexistent problem.

Malleability is fully understood and is not a pain point.
If indeed a fix to malleability is desired (a debatable point), separating the signature from the remainder of a transaction is a worthwhile candidate for consideration.
But the gyrations required to make this a (*ahem!*) so-called 'soft fork' has fundamentally undermined the entire security model of the system.
That's not even starting with the cruft other than segwit which was bundled into The SegWit Omnibus Changeset.

Ultimately, this entire escapade pushed back a scaling solution by two years, and has led to a premature crest of the last wave of adoption - also likely pushing back the next wave by perhaps two years. Hopefully, this black period does not provide a big enough opening for the vampire squid to prepare a meaningful counterattack. I have my doubts. Time will tell.

I could go on, but that will suffice for a start.

Its shit,
Its a scam,
It was always part of the plan  

ok get this, i know you wont believe me..but here goes..
btc was always meant to HF to upgrade....but to many bagholders from years had to be rid off first.
While trying to rid of bagholders, some person/group decided...
hey since the banks want into crypto , lets sell them this 2nd layer on an old fork...
we can take the bankers money and make them wait years for something that wont even work....
oh and while we make them wait, we can get them to tie up their old btc on LN, then when the time is right...
we take the LN funds ,destroy old btc,segwet & ln and follow the real bitcoin...BCH
Once BCH gets majority hashpower, it becomes the true bitcoin.
My words  

Ok you answer in your own words since the other two obviously don't have a valid reason and decided to just ignore this question but are happy to respond to everything else

Ask me, ask me..pleeeease ...me, me