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I think volume is increasing coming up to BCH being on poloniex so it could be a sign of more BTC going there in order to buy it and not dump.
Has poloniex already distributed BCH to its bitcoin holders? I was expecting another dump when that finally happend.
legendary
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I think volume is increasing coming up to BCH being on poloniex so it could be a sign of more BTC going there in order to buy it and not dump.
There maybe a small panic dump...but once thats over..
There will be a huge shift, mining and money will make bcc the REAL BITCOIN.
There will be many tears from those that sold the real btc so cheap, but no sympathy from me as i have been warning them while they can still do something about it.

THIS IS THE REAL BITCOIN  Cool
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I think volume is increasing coming up to BCH being on poloniex so it could be a sign of more BTC going there in order to buy it and not dump.
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I think tomorrow will be a very big BCH dump because of polo releasing their BCH on 14th of August Shocked


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We will be crediting users who had BTC in their account balance at the time of the fork with matching BCH. We expect this to occur on or before 8/14/17. Keep in mind that we have not yet determined if we will be listing BCH as a market on Poloniex nor can we commit to supporting BCH withdrawals right away. The ability to withdraw BCH will depend on network stability which is completely outside of our control.

Its not guaranteed that polo will allow trading users may just have to withdraw to another exchange or wallet

Also says just crediting and the user may not be able to do anything with it straight away

Have to just wait and see probably be an eventful day though

Yes, that's what I understood from poloniex statement too. Polo did not promise to list the coin, just maybe allow user to withdraw their bch to somewhere else only.

We shouldn't expect that much from Poloniex, they have internal problems. If thy credit my bcc to my account to withdraw, I'll be more than happy. I can cash it out somewhere else.
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I think tomorrow will be a very big BCH dump because of polo releasing their BCH on 14th of August Shocked


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We will be crediting users who had BTC in their account balance at the time of the fork with matching BCH. We expect this to occur on or before 8/14/17. Keep in mind that we have not yet determined if we will be listing BCH as a market on Poloniex nor can we commit to supporting BCH withdrawals right away. The ability to withdraw BCH will depend on network stability which is completely outside of our control.

Its not guaranteed that polo will allow trading users may just have to withdraw to another exchange or wallet

Also says just crediting and the user may not be able to do anything with it straight away

Have to just wait and see probably be an eventful day though

Yes, that's what I understood from poloniex statement too. Polo did not promise to list the coin, just maybe allow user to withdraw their bch to somewhere else only.
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I think tomorrow will be a very big BCH dump because of polo releasing their BCH on 14th of August Shocked

Should I sell all my BCH now?  Huh
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http://fork.lol/reward/opportunity

BCH miners have currently missed out on an estimated total of $2,462,466.76  Cheesy

Thats a lotta money to loose mining this coin hope the miners have a strong hand


http://fork.lol/pow/hashrate

Hashpower distribution. Average for the past 3 days: BTC: 94.04%, BCH: 5.96%

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I think tomorrow will be a very big BCH dump because of polo releasing their BCH on 14th of August Shocked
I think the obvious time to release is today "by" the 14th would mean before...to me. Indeed.. noon would seem to be a fair time since Europe is awake..and the West Coast of America too. Additionally, more folks are around on a Sunday to react than a Monday, perhaps. Just sayin..don't ignore the obvious.
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I think tomorrow will be a very big BCH dump because of polo releasing their BCH on 14th of August Shocked


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We will be crediting users who had BTC in their account balance at the time of the fork with matching BCH. We expect this to occur on or before 8/14/17. Keep in mind that we have not yet determined if we will be listing BCH as a market on Poloniex nor can we commit to supporting BCH withdrawals right away. The ability to withdraw BCH will depend on network stability which is completely outside of our control.

Its not guaranteed that polo will allow trading users may just have to withdraw to another exchange or wallet

Also says just crediting and the user may not be able to do anything with it straight away

Have to just wait and see probably be an eventful day though
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I think tomorrow will be a very big BCH dump because of polo releasing their BCH on 14th of August Shocked
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So when do we start referring Bitcoincash as BCASH and Ticker BCH ??

Agreed with you OP must change the title of this thread according to the correct name BCASH. But some big exchange still using BCC that is why it is confusing at the moment.

Do you both really don't know that Bcash is an entirely different coin? Or are you intentionally being stupid?


From https://medium.com/@freetrade68/announcing-bcash-8b938329eaeb:
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Announcing Bcash

Bcash is a new cryptocurrency that uses the existing Bitcoin ledger combined with Zcash privacy technology. It aims to alleviate the congestion in the Bitcoin network while protecting users with the strong privacy guarantees of Zcash technology.
It is expected to launch in the first quarter of 2018.

Mini FAQ:

How can I buy Bcash?
Bcash has not launched yet, there is no way to buy or sell it. Do not trust anyone offering to buy or sell Bcash at this time.

How is it related to Bitcoin Cash?
They are entirely different projects.

That BCASH shyte you are linking to hasnt even been released yet.We are already aware of that freetrader projectHere have a good read before you start insulting us more https://www.reddit.com/r/bcash/    http://bcash.io/
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None of the current proposals are good long term solutions and maybe bigger blocks will be necessary but its something that is being rushed unnecessarily at the moment.
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You must be joking  - it took THREE YEARS to get this blocksize increase, all while BTC's market dominance was dropping like a stone, fees were skyrocketing, and confirmation times went through the roof!

I think it's absolutely hilarious that people think BCH will eventually pass BTC. That's just not going to happen.

Sounds like the type of comment people made 2 years ago about altcoins challenging BTC's dominance of the market - just sayin'. Is BTC even 50% of total market cap right now? Barely, only due to the price increases...

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Thanks for the free coins. I will keep it for now to see how it goes. It never hurts to hold free coins. Who knows when it is going to moon. I hope more updates will be published by the team soon.
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The arguments against Segwit are:

    The block size increase is not enough to satisfy the growing needs of Bitcoin’s user base.
    Others see a hidden agenda as a large number of people working on SegWit are also employed by a company called Blockstream, whose primary product is side-chain solutions.
    Because a side-chain’s transaction will be verified by a trusted third party it is an unacceptable compromise because this is what the blockchain is supposed to eliminate.

The SegWit is providing solution to the following challenges in the network;

    Resolve the weak spot in the Bitcoin software
    Increase of the block size limit to an absolute maximum of 4 MB. The actual block size will depend on the network conditions. It is predicted by experts to be in the range of about two to 2.1 megabytes immediately after SegWit’s activation.
    Remove the barrier to the implementation of second-layer solutions (side-chains) like the proposed Lightning Network. Second-layer solutions remove the bulk of the transactions off the blockchain to a side-chain.

(bcc solves these issues and more)
Bitcoin Cash is a split from Bitcoin with a protocol upgrade to fix on-chain capacity.

If Bitcoin Cash gets majority of PoW then it becomes de facto Bitcoin.



clear for me....
legendary
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Bitcoin Cash is a split from Bitcoin with a protocol upgrade to fix on-chain capacity. If Bitcoin Cash gets majority of PoW then it becomes de facto Bitcoin.
OP


<---buying BCC
legendary
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The only reason bcc isnt flying higher right now, imo is because many are waiting for cheap polo coins.
Once thats out the way and many will realise there is no huge dump coming, there will be a huge swing.
Mining and money will come towards bcc, im 100% confident.
Something huge is coming and many wont even know until its happened.
Prepare....buy/hodl your bcc, when coins come from polo, research before doing anything.

Bcc= decentralised bitcoin
btc= segwit centralised coin


https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@krabgat/what-is-segwit


The arguments against Segwit are:

    The block size increase is not enough to satisfy the growing needs of Bitcoin’s user base.
    Others see a hidden agenda as a large number of people working on SegWit are also employed by a company called Blockstream, whose primary product is side-chain solutions.
    Because a side-chain’s transaction will be verified by a trusted third party it is an unacceptable compromise because this is what the blockchain is supposed to eliminate.




The SegWit is providing solution to the following challenges in the network;

    Resolve the weak spot in the Bitcoin software
    Increase of the block size limit to an absolute maximum of 4 MB. The actual block size will depend on the network conditions. It is predicted by experts to be in the range of about two to 2.1 megabytes immediately after SegWit’s activation.
    Remove the barrier to the implementation of second-layer solutions (side-chains) like the proposed Lightning Network. Second-layer solutions remove the bulk of the transactions off the blockchain to a side-chain.

(bcc solves these issuses and more)

legendary
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now can i ask you, is segwit coin really necessary?
 is peter toad smarter than satoshi?
what side are you on and why?
thanks m8  Smiley

IMO what was laid out 9 years ago doesn't have to be the be all and end all of bitcoin, over time, especially in the information sector, things change and grow. Segwit improves apon the origonal code in a way that perhaps Satoshi didn't even think about way back then, it fixes the malleability and quadratic scaling issues, increases transaction throughput and does this without the need of a hardfork. Its not about siding with whos smarter than who, you dont have to pick one team and block everyone else out, even entry level coders can come up with incredibly elegant solutions sometimes just because they aren't locked into the existing status quo.

None of the current proposals are good long term solutions and maybe bigger blocks will be necessary but its something that is being rushed unnecessarily at the moment. Personally for the main chain I believe that after segwit is activated we should wait and see what affect it has while continuing to work on other solutions like block size increases and other future bug fixes then, when and if it is deemed necessary, roll out as many of these improvemnts as possible in a single hardfork and only after the code has been thoroughly tested and peer reviewed. I dont think hardforking should be something that is taken lightly.

The beauty of bitcoin is that no one owns it and I can almost guarantee that is why Satoshi has publically dissapeared from the scene because he knows that if he were a public figure his opinion would be the final say on bitcoins future and I believe that in the end that goes against everything that he and bitcoin is about... decentralisation.
im not cutting anyone out, i got both versions of btc lol,, its the people that dumped for "free money" that may regret when they realise bcc is closer to the real btc

i used to agree with what you are saying, until i began looking into it deeper.

This 2 tier debate was happening at the start and satoshi believed we dont need another layer, btc can scale itself.
If it were up to toad and co we wouldnt have even had 1mb blocks, they tried to stop it going up so many times and when it did they were proven wrong.

Now, the thing is there has never been any proof that a 2tier system is better, and it does (segwit) lead to a more centralised version of btc.
bcc has bigger blocks, they are here and as time passes imo they will prove satoshi was right.
We all want whats best for the system overall and to me bitcoin should be pure and bcc is that, anything else ...go use an alt-coin.


(you said) I can almost guarantee that is why Satoshi has publically dissapeared from the scene because he.....
(i say).... Satoshi has publically dissapeared from the scene because he prob realised he was wasting to much time and energy fighting a growing list of trolls lol.
legendary
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Do you both really don't know that Bcash is an entirely different coin? Or are you intentionally being stupid?


wow. one medium post. it's time to take this project seriously.

other than that we're on the bcash thread right now.
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I don't buy nor sell anything here and never will.
So when do we start referring Bitcoincash as BCASH and Ticker BCH ??

Agreed with you OP must change the title of this thread according to the correct name BCASH. But some big exchange still using BCC that is why it is confusing at the moment.

Do you both really don't know that Bcash is an entirely different coin? Or are you intentionally being stupid?


From https://medium.com/@freetrade68/announcing-bcash-8b938329eaeb:
Quote
Announcing Bcash

Bcash is a new cryptocurrency that uses the existing Bitcoin ledger combined with Zcash privacy technology. It aims to alleviate the congestion in the Bitcoin network while protecting users with the strong privacy guarantees of Zcash technology.
It is expected to launch in the first quarter of 2018.

Mini FAQ:

How can I buy Bcash?
Bcash has not launched yet, there is no way to buy or sell it. Do not trust anyone offering to buy or sell Bcash at this time.

How is it related to Bitcoin Cash?
They are entirely different projects.
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