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Topic: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe - page 109. (Read 250465 times)

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It is designed not to use heat sinks at 25Gh/s. But I think a lot of people would spend a couple bucks for 16 small pieces of metal to get an additional 3 or 4 or 5Gh/s.

Maybe a third party offers an upgrade kit for the Starter Kit consisting of some kind of mount, heat sinks, fan and a custom regulator.
sr. member
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First! Thanks for congratulations :-) As it was like quite long 8 month till this happened!

What type of heatsink does 25GH Miner Starter Kit need? Is it ok something like 16 small heatsinks without fan?

It is designed not to have external heatsinks.
legendary
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Do you think another terrahash story or not??
newbie
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What type of heatsink does 25GH Miner Starter Kit need? Is it ok something like 16 small heatsinks without fan?
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Sorry, in Spanish:

http://elblogdeltoguero.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/pago-del-iva-el-bitcoin-como.html

In Spain exists the concept of "Social coins". You don't need to tribute them.

Since bitcoin is not regulated, it falls under this concept.

AFAIK the concept of social coins is common all along the EU.
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Maybe where you live but in germany and most other countries that is definitely not the case. You have to pay VAT.
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If the only payment method is bitcoins, I don't understand why they tax the purchase with VAT.

VAT only applies to FIAT transactions. With Bitcoins you can avoid this tax.

This is not true, at least in my country. VAT applies to all transactions, for goods and services, no matter what the currency it was originally taken. For the purpose of VAT the value of the transaction is recalculated in the local currency, and VAT (20%) is always applied in local currency. Avoiding to pay VAT is serious offense and actively prosecuted, so sport of avoiding VAT is not even talked about in any business worth its salt.

You are wrong. Bitcoin is not a legally accepted currency.

When you operate with Bitcoins you are "exchanging" them for good and services.

Strictly speaking, you only need to pay the VAT when you convert from fiat to bitcoins, because you are buying them. Whatever transactions you do afterwards is bartering.

Do you understand now why governments hate bitcoins? It is not because of money laundering: it's because it could be legal to use them to avoid taxes tributes.



sr. member
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can anyone confirm that the c-shape board is capable of higher voltages and clockrates? So overclocking with some heatsinks and fans should be good?
There's a limit to the output power that can be provided by the on-board regulator, and the voltage is not easily adjustable. However, if you feel a bit adventurous, you could heat up the soldering iron, remove a component to disconnect the on-board regulator, and solder down a wire to provide your own power.  The bottom side of the board is completely flat (at least in the part where the chips are), and can accomodate a heat sink. There are even mounting holes in the board that could be used for that purpose.
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..yeah
Question Re: 25GH Miner Starter Kit

Isint each chip 5 GH/s ? Then how is using 16 chips? Last time i checked 16 * 5 = 80 .

Are these 1.56 GH/s chips or that the chip count info on the page is wrong?

The chip was designed to be 5GH/s, but maximum demomstrarted hashrate till now is 2,7 GH/s with rather intensive air cooling. Chip hashes at only 1.56GH/s on this cscape designed boards because its downvolted to have lower power consumption and passive cooling without heatsinks needed.

can anyone confirm that the c-shape board is capable of higher voltages and clockrates? So overclocking with some heatsinks and fans should be good?
hero member
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Hooray for non-equilibrium thermodynamics!
Blimey, why wouldn't you put heatsinks on? I wouldn't have thought that it would affect the cost much to do this. The power conumption does look awesome, but it would be nice to push the chips a bit harder.
legendary
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^ Will code for Bitcoins
If the only payment method is bitcoins, I don't understand why they tax the purchase with VAT.

VAT only applies to FIAT transactions. With Bitcoins you can avoid this tax.

This is not true, at least in my country. VAT applies to all transactions, for goods and services, no matter what the currency it was originally taken. For the purpose of VAT the value of the transaction is recalculated in the local currency, and VAT (20%) is always applied in local currency. Avoiding to pay VAT is serious offense and actively prosecuted, so sport of avoiding VAT is not even talked about in any business worth its salt.
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Question Re: 25GH Miner Starter Kit

Isint each chip 5 GH/s ? Then how is using 16 chips? Last time i checked 16 * 5 = 80 .

Are these 1.56 GH/s chips or that the chip count info on the page is wrong?

The chip was designed to be 5GH/s, but maximum demomstrarted hashrate till now is 2,7 GH/s with rather intensive air cooling. Chip hashes at only 1.56GH/s on this cscape designed boards because its downvolted to have lower power consumption and passive cooling without heatsinks needed.
sr. member
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Supersonic
Question Re: 25GH Miner Starter Kit

Isint each chip 5 GH/s ? Then how is using 16 chips? Last time i checked 16 * 5 = 80 .

Are these 1.56 GH/s chips or that the chip count info on the page is wrong?
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Great job!  This is a most promising device!  Can't wait to get a hold of it.  Thanks

We have opened a site for sales of Bitfury ASIC Chips and mining devices based on them.

We're very sorry, but the delivery is not yet available for customers outside Europe. We are working to serve other markets as soon as possible.

We are offering chips on cut-tape and reel and devices identical to the 100TH mine boards, that c-scape and intron designed.

Specifications can be found on the site. All orders are refundable 100% in EUR nominated price until shipped.

The site for sales is open now.

hero member
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Items flashing here available at btctrinkets.com
Bought the starter kit and four addon boards this morning.
mrb
legendary
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Congrats Bitfury! (We will definitely be a customer Cheesy)

FYI there is an error on the front page: it says "starting at 0.1 BTC", when chips actually start at 0.29 BTC each (reel of 3000 pcs for October delivery).

sr. member
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Don't they need a cooling too?
At the voltage these boards work, a small fan blowing air on a board, or between two boards is good enough. No extra heatsink is required.
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If the only payment method is bitcoins, I don't understand why they tax the purchase with VAT.

VAT only applies to FIAT transactions. With Bitcoins you can avoid this tax.
newbie
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Don't they need a cooling too?
legendary
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Plus and play but you're going to have to ghetto rig your own case or mounting solution. I am hoping someone would offer a nice rackmount case design (kind of like ASICMiner's) soon.
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