[ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe - page 39.

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Quote from: Dexter770221 on October 18, 2013, 04:25:58 AM

Quote from: vs3 on October 17, 2013, 11:41:42 PM

Past November/15 you might as well use them as a paper weight.

Don't worry. If not sold directly they will land on ghash.io and sold there for twice a price....

Dexter - I'm not worried. I don't have chips for sale - Punin does.
And they are worth less and less with every passing second when they collect dust in their offices and don't hash. And in just a few weeks they'll be completely worthless.
The last opportunity to make some money of out of them is now.

kha0S

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I did checked SPAM folder, but nothing there.
Only got the "complete" orders emails.

Huh

Quote from: jlsminingcorp on October 18, 2013, 11:27:45 AM

Quote from: kha0S on October 18, 2013, 11:19:23 AM

Hi Punin.

My order is marked as "Complete" since last Monday (standard shipping). I assume it was posted that day. But I haven't received nothing yet. Isn't there a tracking code for standard shipping orders?

Cheers.
../kha0S

UPS standard seems to be very slow indeed Sad

(a week for our kit from Finland to the UK). You should have received a tracking number from BFSB by email - might want to check your spam filter.

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Hooray for non-equilibrium thermodynamics!

Quote from: kha0S on October 18, 2013, 11:19:23 AM

Hi Punin.

My order is marked as "Complete" since last Monday (standard shipping). I assume it was posted that day. But I haven't received nothing yet. Isn't there a tracking code for standard shipping orders?

Cheers.
../kha0S

UPS standard seems to be very slow indeed Sad

(a week for our kit from Finland to the UK). You should have received a tracking number from BFSB by email - might want to check your spam filter.

kha0S

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Hi Punin.

My order is marked as "Complete" since last Monday (standard shipping). I assume it was posted that day. But I haven't received nothing yet. Isn't there a tracking code for standard shipping orders?

Cheers.
../kha0S

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Quote from: vs3 on October 17, 2013, 11:41:42 PM

Punin - do you guys plan on selling any more chips?

With bitcoin difficulty shooting through the roof this current pricing is a fantasy and not worth even looking at.

Even if chips get delivered tomorrow and get through assembly in just two weeks (good luck with that) and start hashing on Nov/1 they'll barely make $15 in their entire life ... and that's excluding all possible expenses and having free electricity.

I'm speaking from a system integrator's point and all I can say is that the next two weeks would be the last time ever when those chips could be worth any hassle.
To put those chips to work takes on average another $5-10 per chip in components and other materials alone. And it takes precious time - around 3 weeks at best. You probably don't need me to tell you that - you know better than me the pain of manufacturing stuff. You guys are still shipping stuff that was ordered months ago.

My suggestion to everyone in the bitfury team - unless you want to use them as tiling for your bathroom please throw all remaining quantities for sale as soon as possible.

At $1-$3/chip this would be their last gasp.

Past November/15 you might as well use them as a paper weight.

Let's give the BitFury Gen-1 chips a decent final and not make it another Avalon.

is it hard to understand that the current pricing is how it is because it is for the october batch, and was set over 2months ago? once the pre-orders are filled, they promised to ship from in-hand stock and this would enable them to adjust prices weekly if required. bitfury is one of the better designs available right now for power use and simplicity, and it would not be difficult to keep bringing the price down every few weeks until around $50 per h-board which is probably what it costs to manufacture.

bitfury devices will outrun avalon (gen 1 & 2), BFL, asicminer, and knc in terms of power use (~1w/GH at 2GH per chip)

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ye.. if ppl still buying then why not keep the price ?

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Quote from: vs3 on October 17, 2013, 11:41:42 PM

Past November/15 you might as well use them as a paper weight.

Don't worry. If not sold directly they will land on ghash.io and sold there for twice a price....

vs3

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Punin - do you guys plan on selling any more chips?

With bitcoin difficulty shooting through the roof this current pricing is a fantasy and not worth even looking at.

Even if chips get delivered tomorrow and get through assembly in just two weeks (good luck with that) and start hashing on Nov/1 they'll barely make $15 in their entire life ... and that's excluding all possible expenses and having free electricity.

I'm speaking from a system integrator's point and all I can say is that the next two weeks would be the last time ever when those chips could be worth any hassle.
To put those chips to work takes on average another $5-10 per chip in components and other materials alone. And it takes precious time - around 3 weeks at best. You probably don't need me to tell you that - you know better than me the pain of manufacturing stuff. You guys are still shipping stuff that was ordered months ago.

My suggestion to everyone in the bitfury team - unless you want to use them as tiling for your bathroom please throw all remaining quantities for sale as soon as possible.

At $1-$3/chip this would be their last gasp.

Past November/15 you might as well use them as a paper weight.

Let's give the BitFury Gen-1 chips a decent final and not make it another Avalon.

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Quote from: vvhiteknight on October 17, 2013, 08:36:20 PM

I have the latest version of chainminer. How could not detecting all the chips not be a main board issues? It happens no matter what cards I use in bank 4, but is fine if i just populate banks 1-3.

I already examined the boards and a friend of mine examined them under a microscope. No visible issues.

Ive tried everything basically, its fucked. Its unstable as hell, I can leave it come back an hour later and the entire 2nd bank will have crashed...

Card regularly dip from 30gh down to 2-3 then back up again, is that normal? (Running on manual)

the drops can be caused by inadequate cooling, particularly of the regulators IMO. as for the slot causing the issue that is possible but in the past often corrected by rearranging the cards.

if some of the chips on the board (i assume 1-13 of the 16) are visible, it suggests that the last 3 are a h-board issue rather than m-board, at least from some of the august batch feedback.

however, it may be possible that the 4th bank on the m-board is simply far enough down the chain/away from the PSU that the current/power perhaps is not totally stable/sufficient. try running without the 2 bad cards and see how your overall stability is affected. if your hashrate and chip error rates seem better (keep an eye on miso and spi errors moreso than hw errors) it may indicate the m-board is either unable to provide power correctly to the slots/bank, or the physical slots may be unworking.

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I have the latest version of chainminer. How could not detecting all the chips not be a main board issues? It happens no matter what cards I use in bank 4, but is fine if i just populate banks 1-3.

I already examined the boards and a friend of mine examined them under a microscope. No visible issues.

Ive tried everything basically, its fucked. Its unstable as hell, I can leave it come back an hour later and the entire 2nd bank will have crashed...

Card regularly dip from 30gh down to 2-3 then back up again, is that normal? (Running on manual)

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Quote from: vvhiteknight on October 17, 2013, 07:14:19 PM

Hi, I cannot seem to get onto that IRC server, some reason my ISP or something is banned...weird.

Anyway I have tried

- 2 new psu's
- new pi
- new SD card
- BFG miner
- Manual and auto speeds
- swapping card orders ( on multiple occasions)
- Increased cooling
- Decreased cooling

Oh 2 of my boards are totally buggered, this has been verified by someone else with a fury who I sent the cards to to double check.

However any help getting the rest of them working stably is appreciated.

if 253/256 chips are seen, the m-board is not the issue. try the following:
1) check that the newest chainminer is loaded (it *should* be, but who knows. the easy way to guess is look at the error rates. if over 4% you are on the old chainminer)
2) check the traces and soldering on the boards for any issues.
3) try a slight pencil mod on the boards. it may sound unlikely, but i had some poor-performance chips that responded well to increased voltage.
4) resort to exchanging the boards (but expect punin to take some time getting to this, since hes busy clearing the remaining october orders and likely dozens of similar email requests for help.

its entiely possible to have bad boards, but there was a lot of troubleshooting advice and methods that were seen following the august batch.

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Oh also in the final bank it always showed up to 253 chips in the log (never 256 like it should be) and the last 8 chips as 0.000 no matter what board i used.

vvhiteknight

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Hi, I cannot seem to get onto that IRC server, some reason my ISP or something is banned...weird.

Anyway I have tried

- 2 new psu's
- new pi
- new SD card
- BFG miner
- Manual and auto speeds
- swapping card orders ( on multiple occasions)
- Increased cooling
- Decreased cooling

Oh 2 of my boards are totally buggered, this has been verified by someone else with a fury who I sent the cards to to double check.

However any help getting the rest of them working stably is appreciated.

klondike_bar

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Quote from: vvhiteknight on October 17, 2013, 05:59:36 PM

Its a pitty you do not answer your emails. I have sent several and am still waiting a reply. My main board isnt working 100% and 2 of my H-cards are junk, 1 stuck at 10ghs one around 16ghs.

Chance of ROI is gone now, pretty furious at the customer service.

There is never anyone on the IRC channel either.

Joke.

try switching around the boards to put the weak ones at the end of the board. what is the issue: poor-performance chips or chips not showing up?

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Quote from: vvhiteknight on October 17, 2013, 05:59:36 PM

Its a pitty you do not answer your emails. I have sent several and am still waiting a reply. My main board isnt working 100% and 2 of my H-cards are junk, 1 stuck at 10ghs one around 16ghs.

Chance of ROI is gone now, pretty furious at the customer service.

There is never anyone on the IRC channel either.

Joke.

You should probably try coming to #bfsbsupport in the IRCNet network (not freenode). Most likely someone will be up to help you...

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Its a pitty you do not answer your emails. I have sent several and am still waiting a reply. My main board isnt working 100% and 2 of my H-cards are junk, 1 stuck at 10ghs one around 16ghs.

Chance of ROI is gone now, pretty furious at the customer service.

There is never anyone on the IRC channel either.

Joke.

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Quote from: punin on October 17, 2013, 02:28:40 PM

Quote from: GandalfG on October 17, 2013, 09:49:47 AM

Quote from: punin on October 17, 2013, 09:43:33 AM

Yeah, sorry guys.. I'm more into processing your orders than marking them completed

We shipped loads today, some 1000's even. You should receive notification from UPS. I'll try to find some time to bring the webshop up to date..

Punin, please check before sending parcel they have standard delivery or fast delivery.

I stand corrected. I'm trying my best to deliver express orders as express. Please let me know immediately if you get email from UPS with incorrect service and I might be able to change it.

I see you doing best as possible, mistake are happen sometimes

I know only few people on this forum who so reliably pursuing what they promised.
Kudos for your hard work.

BTW my parcel are in track and I hope receive my boards just before weekend. Cheesy

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Quote from: punin on October 17, 2013, 09:43:33 AM

Yeah, sorry guys.. I'm more into processing your orders than marking them completed

We shipped loads today, some 1000's even. You should receive notification from UPS. I'll try to find some time to bring the webshop up to date..

How come you aren't shipping in order?

if you shipped some in the 1000"s and some of mine are in the 900"s.

Will mine not ship till you get to my highest order number?

Just wondering no big deal either way

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Quote from: GandalfG on October 17, 2013, 09:49:47 AM

Quote from: punin on October 17, 2013, 09:43:33 AM

Yeah, sorry guys.. I'm more into processing your orders than marking them completed

We shipped loads today, some 1000's even. You should receive notification from UPS. I'll try to find some time to bring the webshop up to date..

Punin, please check before sending parcel they have standard delivery or fast delivery.

I stand corrected. I'm trying my best to deliver express orders as express. Please let me know immediately if you get email from UPS with incorrect service and I might be able to change it.

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Dig your freedom

Quote from: punin on October 17, 2013, 09:43:33 AM

Yeah, sorry guys.. I'm more into processing your orders than marking them completed

We shipped loads today, some 1000's even. You should receive notification from UPS. I'll try to find some time to bring the webshop up to date..

Punin, please check before sending parcel they have standard delivery or fast delivery.

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