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Simple question: What makes blackcoin substantially and essentially diffferent from peercoin, novacoin and mintcoin?

Assuming this is a legitimate question and not a trolling attempt.

Peercoin and Novacoin are a hyrbid of proof of work and proof of stake. Blackcoin is proof of stake only making it more environmentally friendly.

Mintcoin is similar to Blackcoin except it's premined and the proof of stake rate of interest is 20% rather than Blackcoin's 1%. 20% interest rate is too high for various reasons discussed already.

It's more than technical specifications that make a coin though. Otherwise Litecoin would have the same market cap as Bitcoin. It's also community support and the quality of the dev team (blackcoin has a great one as demonstrated by the blackcoin multicoin concept being pioneered).

I am not troling. I am beeing a potential investors understanding his investments and asking questions for that purpose.
So... Smiley
Where does the POS code come from? I assume it is based on PPC?
There was a reason (security reasons) why PPC does not rely on POS completely and not that quick. Did Mintcion/Blackcoin overcome this?

I'm not a coin dev so can't answer that with authority. I read someone else say on here that the Blackcoin code is using a modified version of PPCoin's staking algorithm. However I don't know how accurate that statement is (he seemed to know what he was talking about but I lack the knowledge to verify it).

Sunny the PPC dev brilliant though he is has always been vague about PPC and it's security issues.

Understood. To my knowledge, Sunny King sorted the matter out already over a month ago. To wit:

The protocol upgrade in 0.3.0 includes a new algorithm to derive proof-of-stake hash modifier, the entity that scrambles computation for stake owners, which replaces the current proof-of-stake difficulty used as modifier in 0.2 protocol. The design was started late September last year, when I first began to realize the issues with using difficulty as modifier. Honorary mention also goes to Jutarul, who independently discovered and verified an issue with using difficulty as modifier and published on bitcointalk in December last year, while successfully executed a demo attack on the block chain. Other changes in the protocol include starting hash weight from 0 at the 30-day mininum age, and requirement that coinstake timestamp must equal block timestamp. Overall 0.3 protocol should significantly strengthen the proof-of-stake protection and resolve the current known vulnerabilities.

My sincere appreciation to co-contributors of 0.3.0 release:

Robert VanHazinga of Hartland PC (dreamwatcher) for the vanitygen compatibility fix
Jutarul for demonstrating stake generation vulnerability
EskimoBob for reporting issue fixed in 0.3.0


You mean that PPC has solved the security issues and now could works as pure POS too?
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Simple question: What makes blackcoin substantially and essentially diffferent from peercoin, novacoin and mintcoin?

Assuming this is a legitimate question and not a trolling attempt.

Peercoin and Novacoin are a hyrbid of proof of work and proof of stake. Blackcoin is proof of stake only making it more environmentally friendly.

Mintcoin is similar to Blackcoin except it's premined and the proof of stake rate of interest is 20% rather than Blackcoin's 1%. 20% interest rate is too high for various reasons discussed already.

It's more than technical specifications that make a coin though. Otherwise Litecoin would have the same market cap as Bitcoin. It's also community support and the quality of the dev team (blackcoin has a great one as demonstrated by the blackcoin multicoin concept being pioneered).

I am not troling. I am beeing a potential investors understanding his investments and asking questions for that purpose.
So... Smiley
Where does the POS code come from? I assume it is based on PPC?
There was a reason (security reasons) why PPC does not rely on POS completely and not that quick. Did Mintcion/Blackcoin overcome this?

I'm not a coin dev so can't answer that with authority. I read someone else say on here that the Blackcoin code is using a modified version of PPCoin's staking algorithm. However I don't know how accurate that statement is (he seemed to know what he was talking about but I lack the knowledge to verify it).

Sunny the PPC dev brilliant though he is has always been vague about PPC and it's security issues.

Understood. To my knowledge, Sunny King sorted the matter out already over a month ago. To wit:

The protocol upgrade in 0.3.0 includes a new algorithm to derive proof-of-stake hash modifier, the entity that scrambles computation for stake owners, which replaces the current proof-of-stake difficulty used as modifier in 0.2 protocol. The design was started late September last year, when I first began to realize the issues with using difficulty as modifier. Honorary mention also goes to Jutarul, who independently discovered and verified an issue with using difficulty as modifier and published on bitcointalk in December last year, while successfully executed a demo attack on the block chain. Other changes in the protocol include starting hash weight from 0 at the 30-day mininum age, and requirement that coinstake timestamp must equal block timestamp. Overall 0.3 protocol should significantly strengthen the proof-of-stake protection and resolve the current known vulnerabilities.

My sincere appreciation to co-contributors of 0.3.0 release:

Robert VanHazinga of Hartland PC (dreamwatcher) for the vanitygen compatibility fix
Jutarul for demonstrating stake generation vulnerability
EskimoBob for reporting issue fixed in 0.3.0
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Simple question: What makes blackcoin substantially and essentially diffferent from peercoin, novacoin and mintcoin?

Assuming this is a legitimate question and not a trolling attempt.

Peercoin and Novacoin are a hyrbid of proof of work and proof of stake. Blackcoin is proof of stake only making it more environmentally friendly.

Mintcoin is similar to Blackcoin except it's premined and the proof of stake rate of interest is 20% rather than Blackcoin's 1%. 20% interest rate is too high for various reasons discussed already.

It's more than technical specifications that make a coin though. Otherwise Litecoin would have the same market cap as Bitcoin. It's also community support and the quality of the dev team (blackcoin has a great one as demonstrated by the blackcoin multicoin concept being pioneered).

I am not troling. I am beeing a potential investors understanding his investments and asking questions for that purpose.
So... Smiley
Where does the POS code come from? I assume it is based on PPC?
There was a reason (security reasons) why PPC does not rely on POS completely and not that quick. Did Mintcion/Blackcoin overcome this?

I'm not a coin dev so can't answer that with authority. I read someone else say on here that the Blackcoin code is using a modified version of PPCoin's staking algorithm. However I don't know how accurate that statement is (he seemed to know what he was talking about but I lack the knowledge to verify it).

Sunny the PPC dev brilliant though he is has always been vague about PPC and it's security issues.
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What, image-link posts don't work anymore? Damn. I had the perfect Cryptocurrency flag of the future.
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Simple question: What makes blackcoin substantially and essentially diffferent from peercoin, novacoin and mintcoin?

Assuming this is a legitimate question and not a trolling attempt.

Peercoin and Novacoin are a hyrbid of proof of work and proof of stake. Blackcoin is proof of stake only making it more environmentally friendly.

Mintcoin is similar to Blackcoin except it's premined and the proof of stake rate of interest is 20% rather than Blackcoin's 1%. 20% interest rate is too high for various reasons discussed already.

It's more than technical specifications that make a coin though. Otherwise Litecoin would have the same market cap as Bitcoin. It's also community support and the quality of the dev team (blackcoin has a great one as demonstrated by the blackcoin multicoin concept being pioneered).

I am not troling. I am beeing a potential investors understanding his investments and asking questions for that purpose.
So... Smiley
Where does the POS code come from? I assume it is based on PPC?
There was a reason (security reasons) why PPC does not rely on POS completely and not that quick. Did Mintcion/Blackcoin overcome this?
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I was just about to buy some BC to trade when I read on mintpal "The BC blockchain appears to be stuck, we have turned off deposits & withdrawals while it is being looked at by the devs. Trading continues."  what does this mean?
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Simple question: What makes blackcoin substantially and essentially diffferent from peercoin, novacoin and mintcoin?

Assuming this is a legitimate question and not a trolling attempt.

Peercoin and Novacoin are a hybrid of proof of work and proof of stake. Blackcoin is proof of stake only making it more environmentally friendly.

Mintcoin is similar to Blackcoin except it's premined and the proof of stake rate of interest is 20% rather than Blackcoin's 1%. 20% interest rate is too high for various reasons discussed already.

It's more than technical specifications that make a coin though. Otherwise Litecoin would have the same market cap as Bitcoin. It's also community support, infrastructure and the quality of the dev team (blackcoin has a great one as demonstrated by the blackcoin multicoin concept being pioneered).
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The blockchain issue is being looked into.

We have a fix in progress!

I love our dev team!
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Simple question: What makes blackcoin substantially and essentially diffferent from peercoin, novacoin and mintcoin?
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The blockchain issue is being looked into.

We have a fix in progress!
legendary
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Im hoping it breaks 5 k due to large buy support and bid orders..... so im hoping the sell orders keep it capped at 5k for a few days at least.

though I am secretly giggling with glee whenever I look at the speed of BC'"s rise
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0.00005143 buy in on Poloniex.


C'mon mintpal  Tongue

Going down on mintpal. I guess it will not get to 5k today there, well tomorrow for sure :p.
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0.00005143 buy in on Poloniex.


C'mon mintpal  Tongue
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So what will this coin be worth in the future? Where do you think we could go with it and what price do you think each coin could potentially be worth? Would love to hear your opinions!

As I've mentioned in a previous post, parity with Litecoin today would signify approximately $5/BC. I see that as a reasonable benchmark destination, for the time being. If LTC goes up faster than its currency expansion/dilution, I would raise that benchmark accordingly.
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So what will this coin be worth in the future? Where do you think we could go with it and what price do you think each coin could potentially be worth? Would love to hear your opinions!
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Someone got a wrong date over block 37845:
37846   2014-03-23 15:19:09   2   264.81134073   0.035   74486675.94244278   7.37339   27.3883   70.0981%
37845   2014-03-23 16:18:55   3   11539.76704154   0.288   74486675.78068721   7.41498   27.4298   69.98%
37844   2014-03-23 15:18:15   3   42255.22281772   0.272   74486675.57794516   7.37295   27.3877   70.0991%
37843   2014-03-23 15:17:43   3   1006.66005726   0.27   74486669.79104896   7.37544   27.3873   70.0886%

Now what? wait until then?

I only see 1 confirmation for block 37846.... can anyone confirm this?

16:12:38
getblock d27eea9b4dbe41ac5ad6a7c4bf68eb8391db8efb0419c571003fe7555c925e1f

{
"hash" : "d27eea9b4dbe41ac5ad6a7c4bf68eb8391db8efb0419c571003fe7555c925e1f",
"confirmations" : 1,
"size" : 402,
"height" : 37846,
"version" : 6,
"merkleroot" : "48a797e23c87b44e70a1582fa3180ab7c3be3c8e9a3c1f20742c29280f53266b",
"mint" : 0.16175557,
"time" : 1395587949,
"nonce" : 0,
"bits" : "1d1bd755",
"difficulty" : 0.03591752,
"blocktrust" : "931ed31",
"chaintrust" : "fb60056a009fb",
"previousblockhash" : "6022d3aa769403cbc523a1f1f1730eb256293d2c5ab9b60f51dc6d3a2b97c883",
"flags" : "proof-of-stake stake-modifier",
"proofhash" : "0001de4360dd8e073bea6c58a2ff9ebf25f33509d33a9305edf8c225d62dfd86",
"entropybit" : 1,
"modifier" : "9a8f9d006a9b8a64",
"modifierchecksum" : "e45744b0",
"tx" : [
"20b46416ad2ac06191ff17b33c69c067c08674b98a404bfb41e445358a658819",
"6cc1394c93ac8e9a675fd2cde657f1f444bb042c35dbf57eeff5166fcbca11ad"
],
"signature" : "3044022024198c6bf9b05afb826f3eab48ffb17524e7294623d266c7b357cfe84a35b3f40220263 7d3012d33e4116efcbc3aeebc5d8428c6192e017dc67f3359fe92726e188f"
}
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it randomly picks bc,s that get the stake so 1% of 1/365th of all blackcoins that are stakable get staked every day
Thanks. I read that as "forget about getting a reward with the amount of BC I have".
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Someone got a wrong date over block 37845:
37846   2014-03-23 15:19:09   2   264.81134073   0.035   74486675.94244278   7.37339   27.3883   70.0981%
37845   2014-03-23 16:18:55   3   11539.76704154   0.288   74486675.78068721   7.41498   27.4298   69.98%
37844   2014-03-23 15:18:15   3   42255.22281772   0.272   74486675.57794516   7.37295   27.3877   70.0991%
37843   2014-03-23 15:17:43   3   1006.66005726   0.27   74486669.79104896   7.37544   27.3873   70.0886%

Now what? wait until then?

I was wondering why my transactions are stuck.
legendary
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Any idea why blackcoin stopped raising?
24 hours ago it was 3800, now it is 4600. Click the 24 hour graph on Mintpal now to see. Granted it's not a 100% increase but why would we want that, ideally we want smooth incremental growth which leads to minimal dump.

Plz go back to premined Mintcoin which has 12btc trading volume a day  Cheesy

Ouch!


lol I cant believe people calling today a stall....  BC continuously eating buys.... just that the last of the profit takers from buys under 3k are getting out with their happy profits.

long term holders would rather this increase slows down... if it rises to quickly the buys wont fill in fast enough to make up for the push of the multipools.

So sell sell keep this price growing slowly
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