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Topic: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts - page 2. (Read 11456 times)

mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
I was using bitcoind to send directly to the address.  I can't verify all of the games until more than 24 hours has passed, since the site uses the time of processing to choose the secret used (which it shouldn't, it should use the time recorded in the block chain for the transaction).

I don't know what you mean by "independent," I lost 21 games consecutively.  If we round the <32k game to 50% chance of winning, it's like a coin flip, where the chance of flipping heads is 1/2^1, or 1/2.  The chance of flipping 2 heads in a row is 1/2^2, or 1/4.  That would make my run of 21 losses about a 1/2^21 chance, or 1/2097152.

red flag

The site operator can easily delay processing transactions  until the current time generates a losing secret.
Please use the blockchain timestamp.
newbie
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I was using bitcoind to send directly to the address.  I can't verify all of the games until more than 24 hours has passed, since the site uses the time of processing to choose the secret used (which it shouldn't, it should use the time recorded in the block chain for the transaction).

I don't know what you mean by "independent," I lost 21 games consecutively.  If we round the <32k game to 50% chance of winning, it's like a coin flip, where the chance of flipping heads is 1/2^1, or 1/2.  The chance of flipping 2 heads in a row is 1/2^2, or 1/4.  That would make my run of 21 losses about a 1/2^21 chance, or 1/2097152.
full member
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I've lost the last 21 times I've played the less than 32000 game on BTCDice.  I cannot believe that is legitimately possible.  What are the odds?

The odds of losing 21 *independent* lt32000 games in a row is about 1:1000000
very unlikely but not impossible.

Unless you did so already, go to btcdice.com and into the search field enter each
of the transaction id's and see what each's lucky number really was.

Have you been playing through blockchain-wallet's bet-feature or directly
by creating a transaction to the respective addresses?
newbie
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I've lost the last 21 times I've played the less than 32000 game on BTCDice.  I cannot believe that is legitimately possible.  What are the odds?
newbie
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Ouch. I noticed how Lucky #s tended to stay constant, and I'm like, 'hey is there a bug'? So I bet 0.5 btcs instantly after I had the lucky # of 6119.

Well no, just found out it doesn't work like that Sad

Lucky number will only staying same for sendmany bet to multiple game addresses of same transaction
vip
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Ouch. I noticed how Lucky #s tended to stay constant, and I'm like, 'hey is there a bug'? So I bet 0.5 btcs instantly after I had the lucky # of 6119.

Well no, just found out it doesn't work like that Sad
newbie
Activity: 46
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Same here (except not *that* many), but I had become used to rather fast payouts, so a delay of two days *was* ringing the "unusual"-alarm for me.

Yes, unfortunately I had some host issue that was causing lot of problems (and is still causing problem with speed) that I'm deal with. Hopefully it will be fix soon.

On a sidenote, I'm wondering about the "value" of 0.00000001 payouts and the byte-cost for the bitcoin network of including these in a new tx. I suggest to BTCDice to offer a second set of bet-addresses, and who bets on those agrees to *not* expect those peanut loss-payouts. For saving them (especially the mining-fee for them), the house edge could be lowered a tiny bit for those bets, as an incentive to save the bitcoin network those peanut-outputs.

I will go over the math and see if I can implement something like this. Maybe top 4 or 5 most popular game.
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They were the latest ones:
http://btcdice.com/search.html?q=1CirMfqaxNMsBrvWjy12WNGkWLgtDVoTZJ+&limit=100&min_bet=0&status=ALL&submit=Search
Question: Why/how did they all end up with the same luck (#)? How is that possible? O_o

Those sent in the same transaction will have the same lucky#.
This is a trivial consequence of how the lucky# is determined.

I feel like I should chime in here, I have place several thousand bets at btc dice and have yet not to have one come back win or lose, granted the responses have been quite slow lately for whatever reason, and sometimes the transactions seem to get "stuck" but I've had the same thing happen at "other" dice sites as well.

Same here (except not *that* many), but I had become used to rather fast payouts, so a delay of two days *was* ringing the "unusual"-alarm for me.

On a sidenote, I'm wondering about the "value" of 0.00000001 payouts and the byte-cost for the bitcoin network of including these in a new tx. I suggest to BTCDice to offer a second set of bet-addresses, and who bets on those agrees to *not* expect those peanut loss-payouts. For saving them (especially the mining-fee for them), the house edge could be lowered a tiny bit for those bets, as an incentive to save the bitcoin network those peanut-outputs.
hero member
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Just for completeness sake, I just received those missing payouts.
(only losses, but that's probably just my bad luck ;-)


As did I.

all losses ?

Can we verify the results of these TX's please.

You can verify when secret is revealed. They were losses.

They were the latest ones:
http://btcdice.com/search.html?q=1CirMfqaxNMsBrvWjy12WNGkWLgtDVoTZJ+&limit=100&min_bet=0&status=ALL&submit=Search

Question: Why/how did they all end up with the same luck (#)? How is that possible?
full member
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I feel like I should chime in here, I have place several thousand bets at btc dice and have yet not to have one come back win or lose, granted the responses have been quite slow lately for whatever reason, and sometimes the transactions seem to get "stuck" but I've had the same thing happen at "other" dice sites as well.
newbie
Activity: 46
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Just for completeness sake, I just received those missing payouts.
(only losses, but that's probably just my bad luck ;-)


As did I.

all losses ?

Can we verify the results of these TX's please.

You can verify when secret is revealed. They were losses.
mem
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 501
Herp Derp PTY LTD
Just for completeness sake, I just received those missing payouts.
(only losses, but that's probably just my bad luck ;-)


As did I.

all losses ?

Can we verify the results of these TX's please.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Just for completeness sake, I just received those missing payouts.
(only losses, but that's probably just my bad luck ;-)


As did I.
full member
Activity: 216
Merit: 100
Just for completeness sake, I just received those missing payouts.
(only losses, but that's probably just my bad luck ;-)
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
I am the one who knocks
Lets hope the admin is away for an extended period...

well, until he resurfaces the site again gets shifted to pending in the list.
I wonder if it would be useful to track that metric.  Meaning: while it is nice to know where a site is currently on the list; to know that it has been flopped back and forth would also be good information.
mem
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 501
Herp Derp PTY LTD
Lets hope the admin is away for an extended period...

well, until he resurfaces the site again gets shifted to pending in the list.
sr. member
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Lets hope the admin is away for an extended period...
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
did this get fixed ?

All three of them never showed up on the site. I was never returned any btc. Searched the txs on the site, not there. Searched my address, those transactions aren't there, only previous ones.

http://btcdice.com/search.html?q=1CirMfqaxNMsBrvWjy12WNGkWLgtDVoTZJ+&limit=100&min_bet=0&status=ALL&submit=Search

When I wrote that, the site seemed to be frozen, like the scripts were stopped.
full member
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Merit: 100

I just dug out this thread to post something similar, but as it seems, all I need to write is: me, 2.
Note, that all the BTCDice-outputs have been spent, so obviously the bet did arrive at the address.
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