I think I'm going to bet here from now on.
Topic: [ANN] BTCDice.com - The Best Bitcoin Game in the World! - Better Payouts - page 7. (Read 11456 times)
August 01, 2012, 01:32:32 AM
You pay back really fast! I placed 10 bets and had already got back 8 payments before I could finish placing the 10th!
I think I'm going to bet here from now on.
I think I'm going to bet here from now on.
July 24, 2012, 04:33:26 AM
Anyone else having issues when sending payments with sendmany?
I sent this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13069740/d865f6929497516968ccb1bee9f8df1d5e47254f23c3dabdce23ed0fc9722279?show_adv=true
Which contains 5 payments of 0.2.
The corresponding transaction on BTCDice is this: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11435 which is showing as I only paid 0.2 BTC total.
Am I going insane or is it bugged?
EDIT: The same here: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13071789/61f162635b21bd6b3275f85447f48dd314460e44dc7d297e62fde63fd60493b4?show_adv=true
3 payments of 0.2BTC in 1 transaction but again only a single payment shown on BTCDice: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11457
I sent this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13069740/d865f6929497516968ccb1bee9f8df1d5e47254f23c3dabdce23ed0fc9722279?show_adv=true
Which contains 5 payments of 0.2.
The corresponding transaction on BTCDice is this: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11435 which is showing as I only paid 0.2 BTC total.
Am I going insane or is it bugged?
EDIT: The same here: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13071789/61f162635b21bd6b3275f85447f48dd314460e44dc7d297e62fde63fd60493b4?show_adv=true
3 payments of 0.2BTC in 1 transaction but again only a single payment shown on BTCDice: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11457
I looked at transactions and see the problem. You sent multiple payment to the same bet address in the same transaction which main client does not support, and I do not support due to potential double-spend attack. The server only supports main client functionality. I will send back your whole bets as good faith gesture and in the future you must send single bet per address in each sendmany.
EDIT:
Return payments
6fdad206bafd83dc8fe0236bd304d6faf4d939eb44933d4fdabcc861bbbee6eb
35269a5316f7549fae470b62bae1b17f414a8262b63063a90592ca3de76cba17
Ah I'm sorry about that, I wasn't aware. Thanks for refunding them.
July 24, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Anyone else having issues when sending payments with sendmany?
I sent this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13069740/d865f6929497516968ccb1bee9f8df1d5e47254f23c3dabdce23ed0fc9722279?show_adv=true
Which contains 5 payments of 0.2.
The corresponding transaction on BTCDice is this: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11435 which is showing as I only paid 0.2 BTC total.
Am I going insane or is it bugged?
EDIT: The same here: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13071789/61f162635b21bd6b3275f85447f48dd314460e44dc7d297e62fde63fd60493b4?show_adv=true
3 payments of 0.2BTC in 1 transaction but again only a single payment shown on BTCDice: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11457
I sent this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13069740/d865f6929497516968ccb1bee9f8df1d5e47254f23c3dabdce23ed0fc9722279?show_adv=true
Which contains 5 payments of 0.2.
The corresponding transaction on BTCDice is this: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11435 which is showing as I only paid 0.2 BTC total.
Am I going insane or is it bugged?
EDIT: The same here: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13071789/61f162635b21bd6b3275f85447f48dd314460e44dc7d297e62fde63fd60493b4?show_adv=true
3 payments of 0.2BTC in 1 transaction but again only a single payment shown on BTCDice: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11457
I looked at transactions and see the problem. You sent multiple payment to the same bet address in the same transaction which main client does not support, and I do not support due to potential double-spend attack. The server only supports main client functionality. I will send back your whole bets as good faith gesture and in the future you must send single bet per address in each sendmany.
EDIT:
Return payments
6fdad206bafd83dc8fe0236bd304d6faf4d939eb44933d4fdabcc861bbbee6eb
35269a5316f7549fae470b62bae1b17f414a8262b63063a90592ca3de76cba17
July 22, 2012, 08:46:21 AM
Anyone else having issues when sending payments with sendmany?
I sent this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13069740/d865f6929497516968ccb1bee9f8df1d5e47254f23c3dabdce23ed0fc9722279?show_adv=true
Which contains 5 payments of 0.2.
The corresponding transaction on BTCDice is this: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11435 which is showing as I only paid 0.2 BTC total.
Am I going insane or is it bugged?
EDIT: The same here: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13071789/61f162635b21bd6b3275f85447f48dd314460e44dc7d297e62fde63fd60493b4?show_adv=true
3 payments of 0.2BTC in 1 transaction but again only a single payment shown on BTCDice: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11457
I sent this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13069740/d865f6929497516968ccb1bee9f8df1d5e47254f23c3dabdce23ed0fc9722279?show_adv=true
Which contains 5 payments of 0.2.
The corresponding transaction on BTCDice is this: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11435 which is showing as I only paid 0.2 BTC total.
Am I going insane or is it bugged?
EDIT: The same here: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/13071789/61f162635b21bd6b3275f85447f48dd314460e44dc7d297e62fde63fd60493b4?show_adv=true
3 payments of 0.2BTC in 1 transaction but again only a single payment shown on BTCDice: http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=11457
July 22, 2012, 05:41:53 AM
wish I had started playing before douglas had anything to say.
only played one round, I'm up .03 btc. good enough.
Nice clone. (satoshidice.net is a bad clone- reports of not paying out.)
only played one round, I'm up .03 btc. good enough.
Nice clone. (satoshidice.net is a bad clone- reports of not paying out.)
July 21, 2012, 11:49:50 PM
Hmm - my bet for PI bitcoins hasn't paid out yet...
http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=10060
too much pi in the system?
http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=10060
too much pi in the system?
That is funny.
I am tracking down a bug that is missing a few bets. Sorry about that.
Your payment has been paid.
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/13014010/426d5e4ca8eda0ad597d7ccd780421c24e5bcc34343785d6451076a9924929b0
Good Luck!
July 21, 2012, 05:34:41 PM
Hmm - my bet for PI bitcoins hasn't paid out yet...
http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=10060
too much pi in the system?
Will
http://btcdice.com/details.html?q=10060
too much pi in the system?
Will
July 20, 2012, 05:41:06 AM
It appears that you aren't taking extremely necessary precautions to protect you from losing all of your money. You have no idea how much work SatoshiDice put into protecting themselves behind-the-scenes. If you can't figure out the problem I'm referring to, you should shut down your site now and give up.
July 19, 2012, 06:20:17 AM
You are also risking legal problems. Where I live (Massachusetts, United States) this is illegal. The creator of SatoshiDice actually sold his site to someone else to avoid this risk.
July 19, 2012, 06:14:16 AM
You run the same risk as anybody using your site. You can very easily go bankrupt. I've done some simulations of SatotshiDice and despite a house edge of 1.5% in a nontrival number of runs SatotshiDice goes bankrupt (most of the time the gambler goes bankrupt). I didn't take into account the reduction of the max bet or the increase of the house edge which is what SatoshiDice used to counter this problem.
I have another update that is sure to make users happy!
Have Fun and Good Luck!
- Reduced house percent to %1.65.
- Increased Max Bet to 100 BTC on less than 48000, 32768, 32000, and 24000 games.
- Increased Max Bet to 50 BTC on less than 24000 and 16000 games.
Have Fun and Good Luck!
July 17, 2012, 04:06:40 AM
I have another update that is sure to make users happy!
Have Fun and Good Luck!
- Reduced house percent to %1.65.
- Increased Max Bet to 100 BTC on less than 48000, 32768, 32000, and 24000 games.
- Increased Max Bet to 50 BTC on less than 24000 and 16000 games.
Have Fun and Good Luck!
July 15, 2012, 02:47:11 AM
:-)
Where does it end!
July 15, 2012, 02:44:52 AM
July 15, 2012, 02:25:24 AM
Thank you for the notice. I would hate to have lost a bunch of BTC over the long run.
I've corrected the issue.
I've corrected the issue.
July 13, 2012, 09:46:12 PM
Good to see Dooglus yet again helping out site admins
July 13, 2012, 09:35:35 PM
And here are the correct payouts to make the house edge really be 2%:
Quote
edge=0.98; max=65536; lose=0.005
for n in 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1000,1500,2000,3000, \
4000,6000,8000,12000,16000,24000,32000,32768,48000:
print "%5d %9.3fx" % (n, (max*edge - lose*(max-n)) / n)
1 63897.605x
2 31948.805x
4 15974.405x
8 7987.205x
16 3993.605x
32 1996.805x
64 998.405x
128 499.205x
256 249.605x
512 124.805x
1000 63.903x
1500 42.603x
2000 31.954x
3000 21.304x
4000 15.979x
6000 10.655x
8000 7.992x
12000 5.330x
16000 3.999x
24000 2.667x
32000 2.002x
32768 1.955x
48000 1.336x
for n in 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1000,1500,2000,3000, \
4000,6000,8000,12000,16000,24000,32000,32768,48000:
print "%5d %9.3fx" % (n, (max*edge - lose*(max-n)) / n)
1 63897.605x
2 31948.805x
4 15974.405x
8 7987.205x
16 3993.605x
32 1996.805x
64 998.405x
128 499.205x
256 249.605x
512 124.805x
1000 63.903x
1500 42.603x
2000 31.954x
3000 21.304x
4000 15.979x
6000 10.655x
8000 7.992x
12000 5.330x
16000 3.999x
24000 2.667x
32000 2.002x
32768 1.955x
48000 1.336x
July 13, 2012, 09:30:13 PM
I don't know if I should be telling you this or not, but you calculated your payouts wrongly. In some of the games your house edge is negative.
You made 2 mistakes:
1) you pay out 0.5% on losing bets, which you don't take into consideration
2) you need to multiply by 0.98, not subtract 0.04 to get a 2% house edge
Look at your "lessthan 2" bet for instance. I have a 1-in-32768 chance of winning, and when I win I get 32767.96x. When I lose I get 0.5%.
If you ignore the 0.5% for losing, the house edge is 100-(100*32767.96/32768) = 0.0001%.
But when you take the 0.5% for losing into account too, the house edge goes down to 100-(100*(32767.96 + 32767*0.005)/32768) = -0.49986%.
ie. you're losing 0.5% of each bet in the long term.
Here are the correct house edge details for each bet:
I only noticed this because of how close your payout on under 48000 is to SatoshiDice's payout.
You made 2 mistakes:
1) you pay out 0.5% on losing bets, which you don't take into consideration
2) you need to multiply by 0.98, not subtract 0.04 to get a 2% house edge
Look at your "lessthan 2" bet for instance. I have a 1-in-32768 chance of winning, and when I win I get 32767.96x. When I lose I get 0.5%.
If you ignore the 0.5% for losing, the house edge is 100-(100*32767.96/32768) = 0.0001%.
But when you take the 0.5% for losing into account too, the house edge goes down to 100-(100*(32767.96 + 32767*0.005)/32768) = -0.49986%.
ie. you're losing 0.5% of each bet in the long term.
Here are the correct house edge details for each bet:
Quote
under 1 : house edge = 1.844%
under 2 : house edge = -0.500%
under 4 : house edge = -0.500%
under 8 : house edge = -0.499%
under 16 : house edge = -0.499%
under 32 : house edge = -0.498%
under 64 : house edge = -0.496%
under 128 : house edge = -0.491%
under 256 : house edge = -0.482%
under 512 : house edge = -0.465%
under 1000 : house edge = -0.431%
under 1500 : house edge = -0.398%
under 2000 : house edge = -0.363%
under 3000 : house edge = -0.292%
under 4000 : house edge = -0.225%
under 6000 : house edge = -0.091%
under 8000 : house edge = 0.049%
under 12000 : house edge = 0.330%
under 16000 : house edge = 0.599%
under 24000 : house edge = 1.136%
under 32000 : house edge = 1.697%
under 32768 : house edge = 1.750%
under 48000 : house edge = 2.820%
under 2 : house edge = -0.500%
under 4 : house edge = -0.500%
under 8 : house edge = -0.499%
under 16 : house edge = -0.499%
under 32 : house edge = -0.498%
under 64 : house edge = -0.496%
under 128 : house edge = -0.491%
under 256 : house edge = -0.482%
under 512 : house edge = -0.465%
under 1000 : house edge = -0.431%
under 1500 : house edge = -0.398%
under 2000 : house edge = -0.363%
under 3000 : house edge = -0.292%
under 4000 : house edge = -0.225%
under 6000 : house edge = -0.091%
under 8000 : house edge = 0.049%
under 12000 : house edge = 0.330%
under 16000 : house edge = 0.599%
under 24000 : house edge = 1.136%
under 32000 : house edge = 1.697%
under 32768 : house edge = 1.750%
under 48000 : house edge = 2.820%
I only noticed this because of how close your payout on under 48000 is to SatoshiDice's payout.
July 12, 2012, 01:15:16 AM
Adding to my list under pending.
Thank you.
Competition in a free market is a good thing.
This is completely true, SD has suffered several outages and if you play your cards right you will be there to fill the needs of the gamers next outage
July 12, 2012, 12:59:41 AM
Adding to my list under pending.
Thank you.
Competition in a free market is a good thing.
July 11, 2012, 11:20:59 PM
another satoshi dice
I hate to be this guy, but your website is nearly a clone of SD as is the game.
Good luck but may i suggest employing some originality.
Adding to my list under pending.
I hate to be this guy, but your website is nearly a clone of SD as is the game.
Good luck but may i suggest employing some originality.
Adding to my list under pending.
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