Topic: [ANN] Buy virtual Mastercard Debit Cards with crypto without KYC. (Read 732 times)

How does that work if you don't require any identification and your site works through Tor?

Update: As of today, we are decided to stop our service for Indian residents.

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Well, that's one of the reasons I declined OP's offer: the vast majority of things I pay for online I need delivered home or they're bills for things related to my home, meaning they'll know my identity anyway.
And for the rest, fear I won't use the card for enough transactions to offer a really fair feedback in a fair amount of time.

But I'm sure that there are many that purchase a lot of digital goods, and may even get more of them these days, as Easter presents. Those could be suitable for providing a review.

Since I am always interested in convenient ways to spend crypto, I was about to take one for the team and test the card but then I started thinking that even if its working as advertised for what I would use it? Services I pay where I want anonymity (VPN, private trackers, IPTV etc) already offer direct BTC payment so there's no much sense using it for that, while fees (best case scenario 11.5%) are simply too high to make it a primary card for general online payments, even if they are legit. If that was physical card and fees were up to 5%, then I would definitely see some use for it.

I sure hope more similar providers will appear as competition is a good thing for us users.

See? This kind of information is useful, because else people can imagine basically anything they want. And your strict not disclosure policy encourage that.
This kind of information should, imho, not be buried in a post nobody will read it after a week.
I think that I've said it: we don't want to steal or compete your business, we want customers be on the safe side. So you disclosing the tiny bits that give people peace of mind without affecting your business does help.
Thanks for the info.


This, again, should not be buried.
If you announce that in a specific thread, let people tell they're interested and you "hand pick" the few accounts that you think they'll do best and provide them the service, it should serve the purpose.
Just look as an example to this topic; the activity is different, the review is different, but you can still get an idea.
Or you can consider at least @Rikafip. I know that he was criticizing you, but at least he seems interested in testing your card.

Please read our privacy policy. You can contact that email for privacy related questions.

Sorry to interfere but just to continue on:


to which you replied


You're not GDPR compliant, right? Because you have to display at least the identity and contact details of the entity responsible for the data processing (you and others)

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I have done that. Quickly but I did.

An email or a contact form is not what matters. An email is not an identity

Indeed, your feedback and that of LoyceV are thing we can work with and help!



We indeed provide card with no fees to trusted members to test out. Hit us up if anyone is interested.
At this time, we do it slow and build up trust within all communities. We also don't want to grow too quickly and loose side of consumer support. But we will definitely run an campaign on for example BitcoinTalk soon.


Please, please note we are not Russian or Chinees (We all are Europeans) So to be clear, we operate from the U.A.E, and we are a licensed company in the U.A.E. and Europe. The thing is most people think what we do is on the edge of the law. But not a lot of people do the research in what you actually can do and the law. All big companies started this way look @ wirex, binance they knew the loopholes in the law and used it for years. And to be honest we can guarantee we can offer this service up to 1-2 years, after that we will probably build a bigger crypto platform and start all the compliance bullshit.  

For now, we see a daily grow in users and card issued. The first days we actively asked for feedback, but what we can see is that a lot of users love the anonymity and don't share the experience because of it. But i'm sure that eventually users will leave feedback behind.  

 

Beware, OP may conclude (again?) that all the noise you've made (in the other, messier topic) was because you'd want a bribe/free 
And by extrapolation he may conclude that we all wanted a bribe and that the criticism (constructive or not) and drama was because of this.

And at least my posts were driven by an attempt to help the business - if it's legit - and the possible customers too. And for an overall best short description, LoyceV has nailed it:

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My advise to OP was to hire, at least for short term, somebody good at PR (and to be clear: no, I don't want that job).
The PR people would know how to handle this; maybe they would have given out a few free cards, maybe they would have started other types of campaigns, I don't know.

On the other hand, slow and steady start (if what OP tells is real) is also an option and, sooner or later, bitcointalk users will also get to give feedback.

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And one thing I'm curious about, maybe OP (CriptoDebit.com) can help, if it's not so big secret: in what country is the card issuer registered? Or, if that's such a big a secret, can you tell whether it Russia/China or not?

Potato potahto. Thing is, when you claim certain things like being Mastercard partner that is licensed to issue debit cards, people will ask for more company info.


Talking about red flags, how come is your Twitter account from 2011 when you just started the service few weeks ago? I know that you can change the name of the account (and that's what you probably did) but how come not just creating a clear account for your business? I saw before dodgy businesses using older Twitter accounts to appear more legit so that's why am curious about it. Maybe its nitpicking, but that's how I see old Twitter accounts being used for the fresh business.


If you want to get some traction here, (so far not a single comment from forum users about using your card) you should consider giving certain amount of cards for free so users (preferably those with some reputation here) can test it and give their honest opinion. Iirc, what you offered to one of the users wasn't the free card, but moneyback guarantee or something along those lines.

That not hiding, we just don't disclose our personal information.


We don't rush our users it says "after 6 months" so after 6 months of not buying a card there is an interest/maintenance fee.

Thank you, but I must say there are no red flags. We have this announcement up for over 2 weeks now, there is not 1 complaint about our service. We are proud of it.

Great! I value privacy, especially when it comes to crypto. But if you say Debit cards are issued by Cripto Debit's bank partners, I find it hard to believe banks do business with anonymous entities. And if you're not completely anonymous: why hide yourself from potential customers?

I think it's very unlikely Bitcointalk Admin is going to test your card. Some users may want to do it. I'd offer to test it by myself, but I have no use for a creditcard.

Your website is less than a month old. Why rush users to spend funds?

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I see potential, but I also see several red flags.

Update:
We see that a lot of users fund their accounts with high amounts and let it sit there idle.

A new policy update: After 6 months of no card purchase, we will take a monthly maintenance fee of 1% of the balance.

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I wish you the best in live. We will stop responding to your delusional messages.

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Hi, From tomorrow we will stop with Telegram support for compliance reasons.
You can still chat with us via live chat,s upport ticket or email.

Best.

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Listen you freak, you seem to have a lot of time writing on forums...  I was the first who said that I send you a message about that and anyone can see what I asked, so you don't have to add your stupid interpretation.
I can write wherever I want and if you don't like it, create your own little forum so you can control whatever you want.
I didn't lied about anything, all I did is posted my suggestion and suspicions, especially after I heard you have given six figures deposit to the bank
I will post more details about this deal as soon as Mastercard send reply to my questions.
 

Hi, thank you or your message. So basically how we can provide this service is that there are a limit on the cards. They are real Debit cards, but technically you use them as prepaid cards. These companies above cannot offer this service for multiple reasons.  It's not their business model, second they are heavily regulated because they offer much more than only a card. And keep in mind, not every European country has a "crypto" law. A lot of them see crypto as an asset, not a financial instrument.

Also, we don't accepted FIAT currencies.



You accused us and lied, i'm just showing the proof. But please open another topic, don't spam here.

So, I contacted CriptoDebit.com via Telegram (@criptodebit) and they answered basically immediately so kudos for that, but unfortunately I didn't get clear answers to all of my questions.

First of, they didn't want to explain how come are they offering debit cards without KYC when no other competitors like Wirex, Coinbase, Binance, Crypto.com can offer that, to which they didn't have an answer. Well, they did say that they are able to do it because "they given six figures deposit to the bank" which doesn't make much sense as I am sure that all those crypto debit cards issuers wouldn't have an issue depositing that amount of money if it means no KYC. Regarding the transactions fees when buying something, they said its 0 so at least one positive news.

@CriptoDebit.com people here tend to be more diligent and careful than your average user so you have to be prepared for some tough questions and people doubting your legitimacy. If you want to have any success here I suggest that you keep your cool.

Let me quote that for you so everyone can see better what exactly I asked, and people can also see how you will take special care their private information on your website.
Have a nice day, and please don't spend to much money on fake reviews.

Total bullshit!
I never messaged you on Telegram, and if you can read, you can see on my profile that I don't use Telegram.
I can translate you this in russian if you want.