Topic: [ANN] BYTEPAY [BEPAY] POW - MASTERNODESCAM - HODLSCAM - NEOSCAM CropCoin - page 4. (Read 3976 times)

I've been wondering myself how there is such a high volume but the price is still the same. I feel bad for all those people who buying those coins from the dev.

CryptoExpose, do you know why the dev keeps sending his premine to different addresses so often? Is it darksend? I've been trying to follow his premine and he keeps moving it all the time.

All wondering why the price stays low?
This user http://www.cryptofresh.com/u/walesman54
Dumped around 210k coins over the last 10 days, got another 40k ready to dump.
No coins ever bought so who do you think it is?
Your scammer Dev uses multiple accounts to dump his premine.
If he was a legit man only 1 account was needed to sell in the orderbook to fund his project

100% on the dot man.

This is the fake buy order.
Sell 0.83025 BTC.bridge for 1350000.0000003 BEPAY.bridge   162601.6260163   BTC.bridge:BEPAY.bridge

This account already sold 87k bytepay for 4.6BTC

Don't be mislead from the high volumes demand on bepay crypto-bridge. Those are fake orders at the very bottom, unrealistic prices with very high volume orders.

If anyone ever wonders why a coin has such a high volume then it's either true demand or someone put up a very high order on the bottom of the bid list to make it look like there is high demand for the coin. don't be fooled.

It seems that cropcoin and bytepay have the same MOD, MKS#1836. Although it may not seem odd, I find it way too convenient when a lead MOD on crop is also a mod on bytepay with the same dictatorial tendencies, if he does not like what you say then you get banned.

I've been in many legit discord coins and no matter how bad you are, you would never get banned, because they believe in long term growth. Unlike crop and bytepay scam which only rely on hype because they have nothing to show other than that.

Don't be mislead with sweet talk and help on discord, they are only helping themselves. I suspect that even Mr Happy#9949 is aware of the scam and just playing it out because he's too heavily invested.

You see it time and time again, people hype a coin only because they are heavily invested. I've seen it on END coin.  The devs bailed and the members still kept their hopes high 2 months later, telling everyone that the devs are simply working hard and have no time to communicate. That's just wishful thinking, not logic.

Only because you  made money from a coin, it does not mean it's legit, it has no real value outside of scamming the next guy.
so coming here and bragging about making money does not make the coin a legit project.

These coins (as well as many other MNs coins) are examples of Ponzi or Pyramid schemes which are illegal in most countries. If it happened to you to be on the top of pyramid does not mean everyone will be so happy in the end.

Bitcoin provided the 1st cryptocurrency and introduced the blockchain. Ethereum provides the fuel for smart contracts. Dash invented the community governance model and widely supported. So they add a real value. But coins like Crop or BePay provide nothing revolutionary new except well-known fraudulent schemes. And those who will be last, will pay for your success.

This topic is not about coins, BTW, if you ever read it.

I have invested in bepay DEF not a scam project, I have a 20k mn, and honestly I already got my investment back, I dont understand how people can just come and call every single project a scam, well too bad who calls bepay a scam in my pinion lost on something big, as I said i got all my investment back and now i am just getting all the profit every 3 hours....

There are a bunch of coins that let you lock for certain percentage, this is not a new concept. Having ROI of +1000% and hodlbank is a joke, just a gimmick for newbies.

That project is just a copy from Minexcoin  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/minexcoin-a-new-era-of-payments-1847292

That's all he ever does, gives people ambiguous news, then you go figure what it means or if it will ever be delivered.

Dev just dumped 40k coins in the last hour on CB and when a user complained on Discord after the price dropped to 0.00002803   BTC. Instantly moderated and replied to with this.
Bytepaydev - Today at 8:37 PM
They just dont know what we are going to reveal so soon

What a joker

The thing is your a day trader, different rules apply to you.
In fact if I could short all these crapcoins I would have been even more successful as a day trader myself.
Most new blood in crypto want to buy and hold long term, masternodes provide both that and a passive income daily. (or it looks like it at first)

This topic is to expose Bytepay and Crop being run by the same scammer. It's full of evidence (BTC address being shared) and as long as new comers to the crypto game can be warned about the scam I can feel like a did my part to stop them from loosing money and rather skip joining the crypto revolution

It is good to see that we have in fact found some common ground on some points. I was starting to think before that we will have to agree to disagree because our viewpoints were starting to seem like polar opposites.
But i do agree with you that it is unfortunate that there are so many unscrupulous players around but it is the world we live in and we have to do the best to make what we can from the situation.

I would like to see some new outstanding masternode coin emerge where everyone is a winner but the way masternodes are designed is almost like ponzi schemes unless they are made with a much lower roi to begin with than there are always going to be vast differences with early and later adopters and clear winners and losers on all of them.

You are right, I am being too idealistic about crypto and the world. 

I hope people will read what you said and make a more informed decision.

I would like to believe that not every coin is the definition of scam, some people have an actual vision and not there to just make quick profits. if I was going to invest in a coin, I would do it with a real vision and not the typical copy paste website, or unrealistic goals.

I see many people who join this space with the notion of making money long term, not just quick cash. I have not been around MN coins enough to know whether they will thrive or not, I only join projects with a development team and realistic goals.

90% of the coins will most likely fail as any business.

As much as I can see where you are coming from, I have to believe that there are good people out there and even if they lose their money at least it would be
on a real practical vision and not some scam coin and if they get lucky then even better.

In the end stock market or crypto is mostly speculation. 


My only wish is that people stop fueling scammers like cropcoindev aka bytepaydev.

sigh. You really don't understand how crypto works or comprehend anything of what i said i see. It really is a shame that there are so many ignorant people around in the younger generation.
I can see why you waste all your time chasing after worthless causes because you are simply unable to grasp the concept or the inner workings behind the entire scene right now.
One day you will grow up and see that it's a dog eat dog world and that NO-1 should invest money into anything without re-searching it properly. You clearly talk of what you do not know, apart from dash EVERY masternode coin is a scam and every single one of the projects will fail.
They are a make money now thing and none will be around in the future and the devs of all of these projects fully realize that and are taking advantage of the current crypto economic climate. For example "polis" is well respected among newbie masternode holders but do you really see everyone using polispay in the future? Of course not because it simply will not be able to get mass adoption and tbh why the hell would anyone want to use it. All these projects are total rubbish.

At least osnwt's debate makes some good solid points and for the most part i don't disagree with him. He seems to understand the true reality of crypto as he has stated his problem is not with the coin but the dev himself.
But you just have a problem with the whole system and you don't even realize it. Do you think that people in the crypto space are not here to make money but to follow some sort of ethical guide? Well that's not how things work i'm afraid.

I'm not giving a speech about scamming is ok, i'm giving a speech about how to make money and not get caught up in the fanatic role or the policing the crypto scene role while the whales reap all the rewards. You need to get your piece of the pie to survive in this world it is crypto and full of drug dealers/money launderers/corrupt government officials and tax evaders not some ethics committee of girl scouts and church pastors.

You do realize that the only way for people to come out of loss is to scam the next guy, if people ever done their homework about any coin they invest in, then their odds of not being scammed would be higher.

Also saying that every crypto project is a scam is false. Yes crypto is very high risk because like any company it has a 90% chance of failing. That is life though and it was not meant to be a scam.

There are plenty of coins out there that are not ROI ONLY based, and they actually want to create something in the crypto space, whether it will successful or not is another story, but they are not SCAM.

Your only high return is off of fools that have no clue about crypto and buy into scam coins, and you are proud of it too.

As I stated before, people like you is what makes crypto look bad.  I don't give a damn about your family sentiments, because you are scamming people off THEIR MONEY, you are potentially taking away money from another guy who needs it.

As I stated before, if people would not invest in scam coins then this space would've been a better place, maybe not HIGH ROI, which only few people most likely get out of this whole ordeal, only the last guys are the losers.

I just don't know why people like you bother giving this whole speech about how scamming people is OK, I'd just keep quiet somewhere and keep it to myself.

No that is not true at all. I am recommending to newbies especially how they can make money with masternodes and how to recover there funds so they don't end up at a loss and in a situation where they can't continue to trade. The problem i see with a lot of newbies is that they become loyalists/fanatics of coins and end up just holding and holding and saying statements like "i will never dump any of these coins for a year or so at least" or "don't dump under X amount of sats because you will regret it" which is entirely the wrong way to do things. And as for the scam jump on in anyways section i actually think all masternode coins are total rubbish aside from dash and if using your criteria nearly every single one of them is a scam because they all have large premines and are all clones and are all just another payment coin that will never be used. Do you think ANY of these coins will still be around in 10 years time? Does that make them ALL scams? People are into crypto to make money not to become fanatics of certain coins, i don't set up masternodes to join some cult i do it to make money. This is my full time job and if i do not make money i cannot pay my bills and feed my family and that is my priority. This is what happens in an unregulated marketplace and if people don't like it than they shouldn't trade in crypto and should stick to the stock markets with low return "legit" investments" instead but as you know the potential rewards are much much less. If you take risk away from crypto investments the returns will not be what they are now which is why this is not what is wrong with crypto but what is exactly how it should be.

In Bitcoin, every feature serves to a particular purpose. In these coins every new "feature" serves the only one: attract newcomers to the coin. Let's have a look:

1) Masternode one click setup.

In DASH masternodes serve to the network providing a lot of functions. Some of them are: InstantSend, PrivateSend, Governance. These services are necessary to work 24/7/365, and masternodes are paid for these services.

In CropPay (and most of other clones) masternodes are only way to earn money. They still can do PrivateSend and InstantSend. but Governance is not used (and even does not exist in that old code). Many people know what the Dash Governance is? Masternode operators VOTE for independent developers offers and if most voted for a feature, the originator of request is paid by a network without any airdrops or gifts. This means that masternode operators should vote. How many people who use "one click setup" will do that? How does it help to network?

2) Tiered masternodes.

They have no service to the network at all. They only provide undefined emission since no one knows how many of each kind will exist. Do you think that random emission is good for a coin? They only serve to make entrance cheaper. But this is only to make money, not to provide network services including governance.

3) HODLbank.

There are other coins which introduce it. One example is PegasCoin with its DOB (Deposits On Blockchain), where you can freeze some amount for some fixed time, and get interest on that. But PGC has a lot of code to provide that. There is no any real use to the network from that feature. It is almost the same as staked coins, where you can stop it at any time.

It was said that CROP has a kind of escrow address where most dev premined coins were held. As you see, there is no any support for escrow in the code, and there is nothing which prevented full dump of that address.

4) Undefined emission.

The only one way to change it is to change the code and make a fork. This way was tested on CROP when after 20 coins it was raised to 100, then changed again. It was said that "community will vote for best rewards". But when was time to release, and many (including me) asked "when will we vote for it", the answer from cropdev was: "We set the best rewards", and no any vote was conducted.

So the only way to change it is the arbitrary decision of one person, the "dev". Do you think it will help to make a coin popular when at any time you may find it was forked a week ago and all your latest coins are not spendable? That exactly what happened with many CROP holders. Do you think Bitcoin was so popular if it changed blockchain parameters once a week or month?

ALL THESE tricks are to attract people who wants to make money. In that case the CropPay is the best of most shitcoins around. But if you think these coins may be used for long term investment, you are blind.

As much as I want to admit that I'm not tempted with what you are saying, people like you is what destroying crypto.  You are basically saying if you aware it's a scam then jump it anyways and then scam the next guy with it, as long as you are making money you are doing the right thing.

If people are aware a coin is a scam and not buy into it then that scam will die very fast, instead you fueling the scam even more and ultimately you scam the person who is going to lose all his money in the end, if that makes you feel like a good human being then I feel sorry for our planet.

We should not be telling people to buy scam because it's a good way of making money, we should tell people not to buy the scam because this is not what crypto is all about.

Ultimately the person who is making the most money is the "developer" himself, in this case it's cropcoindev and his new current name Bytepaydev.

cropcoindev/Bytepaydev is probably laughing right now at every person who is helping his scams thrive, and whenever he mentions some gimmick you guys are all over it.

His latest gimmick is the oneclick masternode, he most likely is catering to the newbies of crypto so it's easier to scam them due to the ease of set up, this is not about helping people, it's about creating easier ways of taking advantage of them.