Topic: [ANN] BYTEPAY [BEPAY] POW - MASTERNODESCAM - HODLSCAM - NEOSCAM CropCoin - page 7. (Read 4031 times)
April 09, 2018, 08:22:38 AM
Same as Sparks, Rapture, Phobos, Cerberus, Crowdcoin, Race, Dinero, Infinex, Force, Stipend, Endorphin, VIVO, Innova, Cropcoin, etc, etc, etc... Everything that comes off BSOD's pool and Stocks.Exchange conjointly... Pattern is exactly the same each time. (50% MN Reward, Airdrops, Bounty, Discord auctions, "Small premine" to run masternodes, and a pure flatline on the charts for those left at the end)
April 09, 2018, 06:20:15 AM
If anybody wants to have some FUN, here is the code difference between his old project, CropCoin, and his new project, BytePay:
https://github.com/osnwt/ScamCoin/commit/cff1e467238da67784014e746f08068fbac867a5
As you may see, it is exactly the same source code. He just renamed coin everywhere and removed some parts of code which had to support legacy epoch of initial Crop history (before tiered masternodes). He was even lazy to change references to 1000 coins for masternode since new coin has masternodes starting from 5000 coins. And also there is no (at first glance) any sign of HODLBANK innovation, too.
So ask yourself: if there is a running project (CropCoin) with some market price, which is on exchanges, which has established user base, WHY TO CLONE IT again instead of running the existing one? The answer is simple: old crop premine has dumped. Now with new project to premine (has finished), masternode sales (in progress), dump (soon) - and to the next one :-)
Have fun!
https://github.com/osnwt/ScamCoin/commit/cff1e467238da67784014e746f08068fbac867a5
As you may see, it is exactly the same source code. He just renamed coin everywhere and removed some parts of code which had to support legacy epoch of initial Crop history (before tiered masternodes). He was even lazy to change references to 1000 coins for masternode since new coin has masternodes starting from 5000 coins. And also there is no (at first glance) any sign of HODLBANK innovation, too.
So ask yourself: if there is a running project (CropCoin) with some market price, which is on exchanges, which has established user base, WHY TO CLONE IT again instead of running the existing one? The answer is simple: old crop premine has dumped. Now with new project to premine (has finished), masternode sales (in progress), dump (soon) - and to the next one :-)
Have fun!
April 09, 2018, 06:03:07 AM
You just registered to post this thread? Newbie acc with one post
You should say thanks to him for heading up. See my post above, is my account a bit better? April 09, 2018, 05:43:25 AM
Guys,
as a former long-term supporter of his previous project, CropCoin, let me tell you what exactly you would expect from this new project considering how that past project was run, and all those issues you could find in its source code. I try to be as honest as possible regardless of his last message to me ("f..k off").
PROs:
CONs:
So the conclusion:
What should be improved, at least, to make such "project" a bit more attractive:
Then you may safely invest. But don't ask too many questions apart from "how to install masternode". Otherwise you may receive the same answer as me after a month of supporting his users on Discord: "f..k off, a.. hole", proof is here (in the end).
as a former long-term supporter of his previous project, CropCoin, let me tell you what exactly you would expect from this new project considering how that past project was run, and all those issues you could find in its source code. I try to be as honest as possible regardless of his last message to me ("f..k off").
PROs:
- he will sell you masternodes
- he will support the project for some time (maybe month, maybe year)
- he will make some changes in the project to keep high ROI (in coins) while possible
- coin will be on exchanges, yes, the same as crop - CB and CE
- those who are early birds, may and, highly likely, WILL make some money
CONs:
- this project is a next clone of previous one
- it uses old codebase with a lot of issues
- to keep ROI high usual practice was to make blockchain forks every week or two. If you are not checking discord every day or two, you may probably miss update point and start loosing your masternode awards or mining rewards (they will be in another blockchain fork)
- when lot of people enter the project, the premine of 4 million coins will go dumping in parts - the same way as crop's 2 million were dumped
- the price will go down, crop's price went from 39000 sat/coin (as I bought it) to 3000-5000 sat/coins (when I sold out), and many people left it at high loss
- this project has no innovations or clear whitepaper. CROPs innovations were tiered masternodes which are the way to keep interest to the project and coin price from falling. But actually they have no meaning at all, and due to variable number of different nodes, the daily supply will jump up and down, and create unpredictable inflation.
- support on discord is irregular and sparse. The team consisted from a single "dev" which obviously does not code, since no single tech question was answered
- "dev" lied to coin holders about plans. Say, he promised that "community will vote for reward structure", but when time's come, he just set fixed values, and to all questions he just wrote "we set the best for community". All this ignoring a lot of calculations and spreadsheets few user published being concerned
- he ignores or rejects all offers to help with coding, web site or running services, but at the same time says "it's community project"
- no team means no updates. Check crop web site, it is obsolete. Here will be the same. People were mining that coin a moths later after it went PoS only with no mining. And they lost money paying bills and not able to sell coins. The answer was "check discord and update". Let me add: check every day/week
- not being a real developer, the code work is being made by other people. Including building of GUI wallets. GitHub does not cointain all files necessary to build Windows, Linux and Mac wallets, they are distributed as binary only files. Now is the same - Windows GUI is published, MacOS GUI in past project was published on GoogleDrive few days after releases/updates, Linux GUI wallet was never published at all. That's because of old code base taken instead of new one. On all offers to build all 3 platforms at once after adding missing files he answered nothing
- As a result, someone else builds GUI released. You can't do that easily. I made those, but using some parts from other coins, since dev either ignored my requests for missing files, or said "all is published" - well, where is the /share directory needed to build GUI, and where is macdeploy script needed to build a MacOS app bundle? They are built from no one knows which code and by no one knows whom
- with past project, this "dev" even was not able to setup own blockchain explorer and used gos.cx pool's one. Now is the same, use 3rd party offer. You still think it is a good project?
- When you ask too many "bad" questions, they will be deleted first, and your account banned next
- I can show proof to any of these statements, more are listed here. For instance, ask him how to build Linux GUI wallet from the source published. Or Windows. Or MacOS. I bet the answer will be like "we provide all you need ready to use, no need to build" since he is NOT a CODER/DEV, and, perhaps, he has never built any GUI himself
So the conclusion:
- You may invest in it and even make a lot of money. But as well you may lose a lot in BTC if you miss dump point in time
- Yes, ROI in coins is great. But ROI in BTC may be negative. Be aware.
What should be improved, at least, to make such "project" a bit more attractive:
- up to date web site
- own real, not fake, coders in the team, not subcontractors
- own, not 3rd party, blockchain explorer
- own tiered masternode stats page (if we tell about this like an innovation)
- full source code published, so everyone can build 1) command line node for VPS, 2) Windows GUI wallet, 3) MacOS GUI wallet, 4) Linux GUI wallet
- better if all this will use new code base with qmake/cmake/configure system instead of hard-coded fixed libs
Then you may safely invest. But don't ask too many questions apart from "how to install masternode". Otherwise you may receive the same answer as me after a month of supporting his users on Discord: "f..k off, a.. hole", proof is here (in the end).
April 09, 2018, 05:22:09 AM
.You cant remove any of my comment in your post Lier.Keep fudding i wont pay you any FREE COINS that you demand.
These 3 guys notblox and two other brand news have been Demanding ransom for no fud and then they removed comments and blocked me.please dont believe them.Thank you all for your love
These 3 guys notblox and two other brand news have been Demanding ransom for no fud and then they removed comments and blocked me.please dont believe them.Thank you all for your love
April 09, 2018, 04:04:29 AM
This guys was demanding some bytepay from me and told me he would Create Fud if i didnot pay him and then he deleted his messages.He created account for this purpose see all newbies here.
i couldnot give him ransom so he created this.Now you can decide who is telling the truth.You all will see when we are on exchanges
i couldnot give him ransom so he created this.Now you can decide who is telling the truth.You all will see when we are on exchanges
April 08, 2018, 06:33:38 PM
April 08, 2018, 06:20:09 PM
You just registered to post this thread? Newbie acc with one post
You should say thanks to him for heading up. See my post above, is my account a bit better? April 08, 2018, 05:59:16 PM
I said what I have to said in his scamy twitter..
https://twitter.com/bytepay/status/982966618060881920
He will learn next scam no twitter cause he can't delete them
https://twitter.com/bytepay/status/982966618060881920
He will learn next scam no twitter cause he can't delete them
April 08, 2018, 06:18:41 PM
SCAM ALERT !!!
BYTEPAY SCAM
Asking 0.5 BTC for Masternode
BAN People on Discord for asking questions
Altering Discord and Bitcointalk forum
4 fake developers
5 fake years expiriance
Account at Bitcointalk opened one month ago
Topic on Bitcointalk is selfmoderated and altered - he just erase all that he does not like
Premine 4%
Changing prices by minute. Escrow forbiden. He works only on trust.
Free to Talk and comment without censure topic :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34242025
BYTEPAY SCAM
Asking 0.5 BTC for Masternode
BAN People on Discord for asking questions
Altering Discord and Bitcointalk forum
4 fake developers
5 fake years expiriance
Account at Bitcointalk opened one month ago
Topic on Bitcointalk is selfmoderated and altered - he just erase all that he does not like
Premine 4%
Changing prices by minute. Escrow forbiden. He works only on trust.
Free to Talk and comment without censure topic :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34242025
SCAM CONFIRMED
This project has exactly the same pattern as CROP:
- the same technical issues
- the same missing source files to build GUI wallets
- the same SOURCE CODE almost identical to CROP code (including tiered masternodes)
- the same Discord owner name pattern (compare cropcoindev and bytepaydev)
- as reported above, the same practices of banning people on Discord for questions.
- more issues of previous project are here.
And finally the "dev" way of saying thanks to people who wasted a month helping users in his previous project almost 24/7:
April 08, 2018, 04:50:27 PM
Senior or serious people will never send BTC to this kind of people and coins.
things used to be much better some 3 months ago so I buy me some Gobyte then I sell it then I buy me even moar Gobyte then I sell it and so on. And when I get me some 165 coins I start asking if I am a dumb ass not to invest those in some MN share. So I did. The rest of the coins were sold to trade LTC/BTC at Coinsmarkets and they have scammed all the people who were present at Jan, 03 and I lost me 13.49 LTC 
April 08, 2018, 03:02:04 PM
!!! SCAM ALERT !!!
Possible connection with Edgy...iodev
BYTEPAY SCAM
Asking 0.5 BTC for Masternode
BAN People on Discord for asking questions
Altering Discord and Bitcointalk forum
4 fake developers
5 fake years expiriance
Account at Bitcointalk opened one month ago
Topic on Bitcointalk is selfmoderated and altered - he just erase all that he does not like
Premine 4%
Changing prices by minute. Escrow forbiden. He works only on trust.
Official Bytescam topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bytepay-bepay-pow-tiered-masternodes-3277964
EVERYONE WHO GOT BAN FROM ByteSCAM fakedev,
please write here and continue with this topic.
It is not censured and altered
MN = SCAM / MLM / SHIT Possible connection with Edgy...iodev
BYTEPAY SCAM
Asking 0.5 BTC for Masternode
BAN People on Discord for asking questions
Altering Discord and Bitcointalk forum
4 fake developers
5 fake years expiriance
Account at Bitcointalk opened one month ago
Topic on Bitcointalk is selfmoderated and altered - he just erase all that he does not like
Premine 4%
Changing prices by minute. Escrow forbiden. He works only on trust.
Official Bytescam topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bytepay-bepay-pow-tiered-masternodes-3277964
EVERYONE WHO GOT BAN FROM ByteSCAM fakedev,
please write here and continue with this topic.
It is not censured and altered
April 08, 2018, 02:49:13 PM
If the way he does things are fishy, then don't invest in the project. From your post, all I can read are speculations. A developer can decide to ban anybody that FUDs on the project's social media channel. How did you come about the fact that he has fake 5years experience and 4 fake developers? If his topic is self moderated, then that raises concern of possible alteration of some information and cover ups but that doesn't categorically make the project a scam until you prove it otherwise with concrete evidences
April 08, 2018, 02:05:58 PM
Will be added to easypool.win for mining
Bruh come on... I guess it's time to improve your bot lmao
April 08, 2018, 01:20:02 PM
This is topic for newbies and juniors.
Senior or serious people will never send BTC to this kind of people and coins.
Senior or serious people will never send BTC to this kind of people and coins.
April 08, 2018, 01:04:14 PM
Its great when newbie comes to talks on another newbie 
NooOObZZZ
NooOObZZZ
April 08, 2018, 12:38:49 PM
I had to open new topic because Moderator fakedev is erasing everything on official topic.
It will be super great purple happy topic
Explore, Ask and investing for yourself. DO NOT trust me or anyone else.
maybe not
It will be super great purple happy topic
Explore, Ask and investing for yourself. DO NOT trust me or anyone else.
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It may be a second acc, who knows)maybe not
April 08, 2018, 12:29:07 PM
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It may be a second acc, who knows) April 08, 2018, 12:25:24 PM
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April 08, 2018, 12:22:09 PM
I thought that it's scam.
No serious project will call "HODLBank" in their system.
No serious project will call "HODLBank" in their system.
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