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Mack25 renewed the catcoins.org domain - it should be back up shortly.  Thanks, mack.  (Hit me on IRC please - we have more to fix...)

We do not know who owns the catchain.info site or the block explorer - does anyone here know?

I'm working on a replacement block explorer and will link it here when available.

Folks - we must have access to the people controlling the coin's infrastructure - please - if you maintain a website, server, git, or social media site - please post or pm contact info.

The good news is that CAT has seen her first birthday and is very much alive.  The better news is that we haven't had to do any emergency releases or forks in a very long time.

We've gone through a lot in the past year.  The original dev team abandoning the project.  Members of the community stepped-up for a rescue and a wholesale effort to rebuild the infrastructure and fix broken code, and move the project forward.  Along the way we've had more than our share of pool crashes, fork-fests, divide by zeroes, and outright sabotage - and we have survived every damn one of them!

As far as I can tell, most CAT pools no longer exist.  Blaksmith's GeekHash and those of us on the dev team have been carrying the network on our backs with our servers and miners.  Look at Coinwarz - including electricity, NONE of the scrypt coins on the list are profitable - but CAT's still ON the list and were're still more profitable than DOGE - even with our bouncing algo.

And speaking of the bouncing algo:  We have very little hash rate.  My current 15MH/s is most of the network right now - my experimental pool found the last block and broke the 225 difficulty mountain.  Don't like a slow coin?  Mine it!  We already know that the coin works - and it works better with some miners on it!  The profit-switch pools come in when our diff drops below about 20.  More miners means the diff stays up and profit switchers don't visit.  How do we know?  Because for a time ZeroDrama's scrypt ASICs where the only miners on the network - and things smoothed right out.

For whatever reason, Mack didn't renew catcoins.org and our block explorer and main page are down.  We'll fix that.  There's an explorer available here:  http://altexplorer.info/chains/CAT/block_crawler.php  And I'm working on one that will be deployed on the network seed node I lease.  I'll post a link when it's running.  Our number one problem from the beginning is that not everyone that jumped in to help stuck around for the long haul.  We'll gather up the rest of the pieces and make them good, or we'll rebuild them from scratch.  In the mean time, the coin works, transactions work, mining works, trading works, and there's enough volatility for day traders to have fun.

Again - if you want to connect with us, the team's listed in the first post - PM us here, or hit IRC and chat with us there (me and blaksmith are on-line 24/7), or hit the git and message us from that platform.

Welcome to year number 2, wee Cat!

Mack25 - please visit with us in -dev or ping either me or blaksmith on IRC or via email/PM.

Thanks in advance.
Andy

And who, pray tell, is this mysterious "board of directors" of which you speak?

Eric - you voluntarily gave up any voice you might have had when you made clear that you were not part of any team.  As you are not part of any recognized team, you have no more and no less voice than any other member of the public.

IF there is to be a 'changing of the team' that decision will come from the dev team identified in the first post - and will be communicated to the community by the team lead, Maverick.

If anyone has any questions for the team, or wants to be part of CAT's next year, they're welcome to connect with us on IRC, PM us here, use email, or communicate with us via the CatcoinOfficial/CatcoinRelease Git system.

Thanks!

The "current" Dev team, has ended up coming down to one person doing actual code that was accepted by the rest of the team.  That one person has had a shit-ton of life issues outside of any kind of coin on the market.  That one person only has so much time in a day to do everything that has to be done.  The current dev team that doesn't have coding skills have spoken, and they will NOT accept the rogue-type of changes that have been proposed.  The latest rejected proposal was to "reject valid blocks because they came in before 9 minutes, and the rogue dev person even stated that the miner software SHOULD put a valid block 'in the future to be accepted', which opens up a HUGE time-warp exploit".  

There is still rewrite work being done for the difficulty re-target, but there is only so much time in the day that it can be done.

About the "Passing of the reigns", that never even got passed to the current dev team in the first place.  Mack25 has NEVER passed the channel rights, and even after he came in and asked if he should renew the domain name, and we said YES, he did NOT renew catcoins.org.  That site is now showing as "not registered" when you go to it.

Etblvu1, That more or less sounds like a threat, that the current team either shut up and let a takeover happen, or we transfer no matter what.  

If another dev team is going to step up and try to take over the coin, I just hope that the new dev team does it for the right reasons, and not just to line their own pockets.

Blak

Edit: Looking at some of the other pages, it looks like http://catchain.info/chain/Catcoin is also unregistered now too.

development team smells like kitty litter, in house of a 1000 cats.

Cat lined ........................... (mack25 is the doctor of this massive fail?)
........................................................................... no pulse on a simple scrypt pow because one person won't hand over the keys?

means perma-stuck in cryptsy's wallets
means even if we fix the code they'll still refuse to 'update'
means craptsy is king of Cat

If the "development team" has gone inactive, it may be time for us to build a new team. I have made a proposal for the board of directors for the coin to manage its future. To the "development team" in sleeping, speak up or forever hold your peace, or man up and officially transfer the reigns to the board of directors.
Thank you.
Etblvu1

Being cat-lined... (coming up on 25 hours without a block being solved)

So, CAT's birthday is in less than a week.

PLEASE tell me we have something positive to look forward to.

CatCoinhas just been added to AllCrypt.com! The coin is live and available right now, although the blockchain might still be downloading - if so, deposits and deposit address generation will not be available until the blockchain is complete.

We have (or will very soon) post an announcement on Twitter as well. Follow us on twitter (@all_crypt or https://twitter.com/All_Crypt) to help spread the word and keep abreast of site news and updates.

We'd appreciate being listed as an active exchange in the OP of the this thread. If you'd like a high quality PNG logo to use, a zip is available at: http://www.allcrypt.com/aclogopack.zip

Important note: It sucks for everyone when there is a fork, or a version upgrade, and we don't get notified. Sometimes developers just tweet that there is an upgrade. We're busy running the site - very often we miss tweets - we get a lot every day! If there is an emergency upgrade, a hard fork coming in less than a week, a major issue that requires an immediate upgrade, if it's tweeted at us we may not see it. The only truly RELIABLE way to ensure we know about a mandatory upgrade is to submit a support ticket. Just have someone hop by http://support.allcrypt.com and let us know. We see those all the time, including on the dev staff's mobile devices.

If for some reason your github source changes (community takeover for example) PLEASE let us know that in the ticket. Our system is highly automated, and if you issue a new source code under a new git address, we won't know unless thats provided - our system will check the old address for the new version. Since we save it, you only need to worry about it if the github location changes. In all other cases, just letting us know we need to upgrade is enough!

I think that covers it! Thanks for your support of AllCrypt and we're proud to support you in return!

Yes i did like this logo too

oh it's been so long since i looked at catcoin.
good to see it so active

but i liked the old logo better :DDDD

This is a non sequitur on multiple levels.  First, it requires accepting that all citizens of the US are likewise controlled - and they are not.  Secondly, it requires accepting that this is strictly a US project, and it's not.  I would agree that this forum has been unduly influenced by the 'loudest FUD' - a tactic you are using now and have used successfully in the past.  Those days are over.  I'm certain you can find an on-line home where you can exchange notes with others that believe as you do.

I am the dictator of nothing.  I'm simply the person given the task of communicating.  As for your view of politics and the block chain, had you reviewed the papers and videos I've given to you here, in -dev, and personally via email, you'd understand that you are attempting to connect two dots that are not and should not be connected.  That's not 'my' position alone - that's the position of the entire crypto movement.  Crypto is a potential solution to the diseases of deep pockets, undue political influence, and manipulations of the criminally insane.  I question the motives of anyone that is attempting to paint this project with such a brush, especially after they have demonstrated either the unwillingness or inability to abide by the agreements they voluntarily made.

As you might or might not remember, Troy, my first career was conducting this type of analysis.  There is nothing inherently anonymous about crypto - the block chain and all transactions are as open and publicly viewable as they can be - by design!  Review the NYC hearings and the process of taking-down Silk Road for a refresher.

The only step of the cryptocurrency process that provides an 'air gap' between addresses and names is the one that happens between the keyboard and the wallet.  That should remain.  You were calling for the 'outing' of large holders.  That's not your call - especially after disgracing yourself and getting tossed out on your ass.  Now you've switched positions and are suggesting that anonymity is important and is somehow at risk.  The only problem I personally have with your 'ideological position' is that you appear to have so many of them.

The code on testnet is just as open as all the rest of the code that's been tested since CAT began.  It is undergoing testing and continual modification as is expected of any system undergoing active development.  It will be published in advance of release just as all previous changes have been.  This process will be very unlike previous software releases, however, as this is not an emergency fix and we are not running against the clock.  It will be well tested and reviewed my multiple sets of eyes.  This will be a 100% solution or it will not be deployed - period. 

The unfortunate reality is that the politics of currency exist in catcoin because most of the people working on it live in a country where the deep pockets elect the politicians. So there's the goliath of deep pockets, and the goliath of government bureaucracy, both of which either have lots of money, or can create it by printing more. If you think the politics of currency does not belong here, I can respect that ideological position, and express my position that the reality we have is the politics of deep pockets and the loudest FUD.

Although you are the dictator of #catcoin-dev, you are not the dictator of Catcoin, and if others who you might wish to silence say that politics of currency belongs here, because it's a reality of the world the code and blockchain exists in, then it belongs here.

My ideological position (with which you are free to differ) is that anonymity only helps the two goliaths, and the people that wield secrets as power. So far, I see no evidence that either one of them has taken much of an interest in Catcoin. Yet. Catcoin is also not in any way anonymous. If Cryptsy got a subpoena to turn over all records of catcoin transactions, it would be pretty damn easy to identify every transaction and who made it, all the way back to the instamining at the start.

I'm also very interested to see this code you're testing. Do you plan to publish for public comment, or keep it hidden so only the insiders know the flaws in advance? Do you have a process figured out for posting the release candidates for a new fork?

Fellow CATians - I highly recommend these videos from World Bitcoin Network and James D'Angelo - the Bitcoin 101 Blackboard Series.

For a very timely and on-topic sanity check, I recommend that all interested watch the "Bitcoin 101 - What is Bitcoin?" presentation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhe61JaNFLU

The second most recommended video from the list is "Bitcoin 101 - Why Mining?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cMjR0mB9Sc


Remember that all of crypto was born from Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin - and Bitcoin was born out of a desire to fix the problems of the global financial meltdown and to eliminate the types of thinking that continually cause them.

Here's the full play-list:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzctEq7iZD-7-DgJM604zsndMapn9ff6q

Here's hoping that once we recognize the problems we're working to fix that it'll make it easier to spot the wolves...

Cheers,
Andy

The suggestion that 'deep pockets should run the world' is not part of crypto.  Neither code nor crypto gives a hoot how many coins one holds.  If large holders want to be part of the process, they'll come forward.  If they don't, then they won't - and shouldn't.  If anyone thinks otherwise, Goldman Sachs is hiring...

Either way, the politics of currency does not belong here.

Put another way - what part of 'pseudonymous' or 'anonymous' is so difficult to understand?

I'm also inclined to see what sort of code TeamCatCoinRelease comes up with. I have a few criteria they would be wise to at least consider.

• coding standards. tab/spacing/etc should be consistent, at least in the main.cpp file. I don't care which coding standards you pick (that's your religious choice), but **pick one**.
• readability
• testing of fair mining rewards in the presence of multi-gigahash profit-driven switchpools
• signed binaries My recommendation is sign the binaries with a catcoin private key.
• CBlockIndex::IsSuperMajority should be used to deploy any new hardforks, instead of block-number

There are 17 addresses in the 10KiloCat club. Your Catcoin will be worth a lot more if you come forward and let us know who you are, and why Cats should make you rich.