Topic: [ANN] Catcoin - 0.9.1.1 - Old thread. Locked. Please use 0.9.2 thread. - page 14. (Read 131061 times)

I like to say cats are not herd animals, and the result is we are having a catfight on how to best fix the difficulty adjustments. I had hoped that with the low market cap that making some fundamental changes to the reward structure and denial-of-service defense code would be easier. But it's not, and as far as I can tell my only option now is post the code, and let the users and miners decide.

The result seems to be a lot like when Martin Luther raised criticisms of the Catholic Church and was exocommunicated, or when Edward Snowden released some embarrassing information and was called a traitor for it. Instead of fixing anything, there is FUD and namecalling, and this is repeating the same nonsense we had 6 months ago.

When I originally advocated for #catcoin-dev, there was so much noise from FUD and basically catfighting it was impossible to get anything done here. Now it's impossible to get anything done on IRC, and since I didn't bother to register the channel with freenode. Now the channel has been 51%ed by people who don't write code. There's one other cat-owner who has posted working code, and I respect his opinion, although sometimes we differ. But when we differ, the conversations are generally reasonable and grown-up. What I would like to see is a forum (IRC or otherwise), and to be a moderator, you have to point to the code you've released.

Or we do like a distributed system probably should and have multiple implementations instead of one code to rule them all. The problem is that puts more responsibility on the end-user to decide which code to run.

I think we need to see more updates here on BTCTalk. I don't particularly feel like having to return to IRC in the hope that I'll see updates instead of devs and other community figures flinging shit at each other and generally acting like children all over again.

If the community finds it valuable I will re-open the fork insurance process. I will need txids and ideally a debug.log from the catcoind you sent and/or received the potentially lost coins from, and a technical engineering contact at the exchange to get the appropriate log data.

I have two possible solutions, however they have both been deemed as heretical by the Catcoin central planning committee.

However, since this is a decentralized system, if anyone would like to try the code I have published, they are free to do so.

You can choose either #catcoin-dev or #catoshi-dev on IRC, or join both, and make you own decisions on what approach you think will correct the difficulty adjustments.

CATs - you have a problem.  Yes, another problem.  It's not the difficulty adjustment, though a likely fix for that is on testnet.  The problem is that one of the former dev-team members has gone rogue.

Hozer installed and ran hacked code on one of three CAT seed nodes and on at least one personal catcoind.  He left it running in spite of the dev team's promise to Maverickthenoob as team leader that we would ONLY run code that's approved and pushed to catcoinofficial/catcoinrelease.  He left it running after admitting that it could cause forks on the network.  He left it running after I told him to take his nodes off-line, after Zerodrama told him to experiment only on testnet, and after Blaksmith told him to run only approved code.

On Tuesday, 7th October, the CAT network broke into at least four forks after Hozer's code, which is designed to reject blocks with too short a block time (an arbitrary choice made only by him), rejected validly mined blocks and cheated miners out of their mining profit.

Zerodrama, myself, and Blaksmith moved all of our mining equipment to GeekHash.org (losing personal time and income), and Blak leased mining equipment so that we could 51% the network back together.  It took us well into the night US Eastern time to get things stabilized.

Two hours after we thought we got things put back together, Cryptsy fell off the network and we had to work with them to get back in sync.  While some of my coins returned, I've still got about 200 CAT that are likely permanently lost.

As of today, Hozer still will not acknowledge that he broke a cardinal rule of the dev team, or that he did anything wrong by running hacked code on mainnet (and a seed node at that!), or that he owes anyone even an apology.

I've been working with Blaksmith on testnet, brainstorming fixes, testing variations, and planning with Zerodrama for deployment of a fork in time for CAT's first birthday.  Unfortunately, Hozer thinks the only way to fix the coin is to become a centralized gate-keeper by judging miners as good and bad, rejecting blocks from 'bad' miners, and by hard-coding an arbitrary 9-minute block minimum time and by rejecting valid blocks from valid miners.

The dev team does NOT condone or agree with Hozer's behavior, his poor judgement, or his tactics to either take control of or destroy this coin.  We do not agree with centralized control, arbitrary time limits, or other tactics that damage the trust of the block chain or crypto in general.

At a personal level, I considered Troy to be a friend since early on in my involvement with CAT.  He's lost my trust, my respect, and my patience.

If there's any community left, it's time to stand up and choose a way forward for CAT.  Please make your voices heard.  Thanks.

Andy

why cant we just get the difficulty adjustment corrected, there has got to be a dev out there who can do this surely? Is there anyone willing to do so just for the sake of this coin. The potential was massive here when originally released 'we were out to challenge dogecoin' i have a holding in this coin and still believe it can come back to life 

CAT must have much higher price!

First step is get a mailing list. This forum is only good for handing money to bots and pump & dumpers

When you've got some developers and a mailing list, please discuss the code at https://github.com/tmagik/CatcoinRelease and tell me what block number to put in.

-Bump-

If someone is toying with the idea of selling his catcoin stash (at least 10k) write me a pm with your asking price.

Greetings

Hello cats, I know it seems like I've been a long lost stray...
Truth is life has had some turmoil and i was handed the helm of a ghost ship (Dreamcoin)
I've been working on things, that will affect cat too.
I'm out to form partnerships,  and have been developing growth strategies.
I'm working on methods contrary to the trading floor of traders to proper investors...

I will soon be asking approval for some drastic measures...
Foremost I am building a solid team of developers in a cross coin community so developments are shared across the board....
I am looking to build microeconomies.

Pm me for details.

Johnny

hm, lets  do an experiment.Pointed  my 4 MHS rig on catcoin. It was tough to find good pool with  adjustable diff, but i found one:9
Lets see what happens. Going to invest some in cat  as soon as cryptsy wallet is working again:)

+1

The Catcoin Community is a special community, based on a feline name, which drew us all together, with all the strengths and not so much strengths. We are independent, and maybe a bit prone to rest when nothing much seems to be going on. But we are also very focused on getting things done, when it is the right time, and that time is coming for Catcoin. Stay tuned.

Can somebody update the opening post maybe? Cmon guys... This is a mess right here.. Lets clean it up!!
Edit:Does anyone care??? Lets clean this mess up pls!

Who's heading up Catcoin these days? And what does the roadmap look like for the future?

It is nice.  I also watch the GitHub repo, and there has been some talk about changing the diff re-targeting.  Maybe that will be enough to get this cat back on his feet!

Well, its nice to see some replies

I'm sitting on just over 1000 CAT myself at the moment (from way back when it was worth over 40k Satoshi BTC each).

Given that the coin is STILL in in a death spiral and nothing really seems to be happening, I regret holding my ground. Not much point exiting CAT now though, since my entire stash is now worth less than 0.01 BTC. I'd probably buy a heap instead if I had even the slightest amount of confidence that the coin will ever recover. That's probably what's stopping people from creating services and products that use the coin as well - lack of confidence in the coin itself.

Shit's depressing.


Man even I actually enough money at the moment to buy around 10% of the entire coin by myself going by marketcap. That's a scary thought.

I too am still holding, and hoping that we can somehow breath some live into it.  I know zerodrama had an idea on changing the diff algo, but he didn't go into detail in the dev channel.

Bump. :p

I'm holding a big bag of Catcoins. Anyone still with this coin? The whole coin has a marketcap of 13 BTC xD.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/catcoin/#markets
Are "we" going to keep this coin alive or let it die?
And cryptsy is the only platform to trade this coin and even there the volume is very tiny.
Anyone comment please.

Just going through a period of very high number of minutes per block. There are discussions behind the scenes on solving this issue. This used to be even worse, believe it or not, so it is getting better. The silver lining on this cloud is that we have a very low inflation rate. But we will get closer to regular 10 minute blocks. Stay tuned.

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