[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 15.

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Quote from: n0nce on January 24, 2023, 04:09:25 PM

Quote from: joker_josue on January 24, 2023, 04:06:44 PM

I'm using ChipMixer for the first time, and I chose the option "Sweep Them To Different Address".

Why? You should withdraw the private key and sweep it at least a bit later, to make it harder linking input and output through timing.

The value is low, for testing purposes, so for me it was no longer relevant. It was just to understand how the platform worked and then go into more detail.

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Quote from: joker_josue on January 24, 2023, 04:06:44 PM

I'm using ChipMixer for the first time, and I chose the option "Sweep Them To Different Address".

Why? You should withdraw the private key and sweep it at least a bit later, to make it harder linking input and output through timing.

joker_josue

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I'm using ChipMixer for the first time, and I chose the option "Sweep Them To Different Address".

How long does it usually take to complete the transaction?

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Quote from: Lender on January 12, 2023, 09:20:02 AM

I have two questions regarding the mixing process. Pardon me if they are already answered...

1. ChipMixer does not seem to provide any mixer code to track the BTC sent to an address. So, is it possible to get back BTC from the same address in a subsequent mixing?

2. How long the Vouchers remain valid?

@chipmixer Shouldn't you be providing customer support to the feller?

There is no need because both questions have already been adequately answered. @chipmixer would only need to correct a bad answer.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on January 14, 2023, 01:21:49 AM

A day ago i use chipmixer and wait about a minutes after getting 2 confirmed on the blockchain, so what happens?. because a couple months ago, I just need 1 blockchain confirmation and chipmixer page direct me to step 2, or maybe many transactions on this site that affect our step.

Nothing changed. One confirmation for deposits less than 20 BTC.

Quote from: n0nce on January 14, 2023, 11:04:01 AM

Or their node is a bit slow.. Tongue

It is possible.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on January 14, 2023, 11:02:03 AM

Quote from: Sarah Azhari on January 14, 2023, 01:21:49 AM

I just need 1 blockchain confirmation and chipmixer page direct me to step 2, or maybe many transactions on this site that affect our step.

Don't worry, it has happened to me before too. You just wait a little more than expected. Maybe ChipMixer can answer on why that happens.

Same here. It's certainly possible they just bumped the conf. count to two, without updating the instructions.
Or their node is a bit slow.. Tongue

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on January 14, 2023, 01:21:49 AM

I just need 1 blockchain confirmation and chipmixer page direct me to step 2, or maybe many transactions on this site that affect our step.

Don't worry, it has happened to me before too. You just wait a little more than expected. Maybe ChipMixer can answer on why that happens.

Quote from: Sarah Azhari on January 14, 2023, 01:21:49 AM

That makes me a bit worry after, because I must check to receive the address again to make sure I put the correct one.

I mean, haven't you already done that? You should always check where the money goes.

Quote from: jackg on January 14, 2023, 10:56:55 AM

If you have noscript enabled then I could see that as being a reason it wouldn't progress to step 2 automatically and would wait for you to press it or potentially refresh.

NoScript is enabled by default in Tor, and since you can only access ChipMixer via Tor, waiting without refreshing won't work.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on January 14, 2023, 01:21:49 AM

A day ago i use chipmixer and wait about a minutes after getting 2 confirmed on the blockchain, so what happens?. because a couple months ago, I just need 1 blockchain confirmation and chipmixer page direct me to step 2, or maybe many transactions on this site that affect our step.

Would it not let you progress with one or did you go a bit more investigative after the second confirmation? If you have noscript enabled then I could see that as being a reason it wouldn't progress to step 2 automatically and would wait for you to press it or potentially refresh.

The site also says only 1 confirmation is needed still on the deposit screen.

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A day ago i use chipmixer and wait about a minutes after getting 2 confirmed on the blockchain, so what happens?. because a couple months ago, I just need 1 blockchain confirmation and chipmixer page direct me to step 2, or maybe many transactions on this site that affect our step.

That makes me a bit worry after, because I must check to receive the address again to make sure I put the correct one.

BlackHatCoiner

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Farewell, Leo

My bad. I wasn't referring to subsequent mixing, but to the preceding mixing-- the one made a little after you send coins.

One way to avoid the scenario of using your mixed deposited funds as future chip, is to be aware of the chip size that was used for these chips. Say, you sent 0.2 BTC, and ChipMixer later split that money to a 0.16 and 0.04 worth of bitcoin chips. Acquiring chips that aren't of that size (0.16, 0.04) insure you won't have this connection.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on January 12, 2023, 09:31:00 AM

Quote from: Lender on January 12, 2023, 09:20:02 AM

1. ChipMixer does not seem to provide any mixer code to track the BTC sent to an address. So, is it possible to get back BTC from the same address, in a subsequent mixing?

You can't, because outputs are faster than inputs from a blockchain perspective; you can't receive chips which were created using your just deposited funds, because you can only receive chips which were made before your deposit.

Actually, you can. The next time you use ChipMixer, it is possible you receive chips that were (partially) created from your own previous deposit. But it doesn't matter, you can prove (with a signed receipt) that those coins came from ChipMixer:

Quote from: LoyceV on December 27, 2022, 01:01:31 PM

Quote from: ChipMixer FAQ

What is a signed receipt?
Our goal is to make Bitcoin value independent of its blockchain history. Some governments and corporations wants to invalidate its value by claiming they are connected to something immoral like gambling. Every time you withdraw from ChipMixer, we give you cryptographically signed receipt that proves you have received those funds from us. Since the disconnection of history is proven, there can be no loss of value.

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Quote from: Lender on January 12, 2023, 09:20:02 AM

1. ChipMixer does not seem to provide any mixer code to track the BTC sent to an address. So, is it possible to get back BTC from the same address, in a subsequent mixing?

You can't, because outputs are faster than inputs from a blockchain perspective; you can't receive chips which were created using your just deposited funds, because you can only receive chips which were made before your deposit.

Quote from: Lender on January 12, 2023, 09:20:02 AM

2. How long the Vouchers remain valid?

Vouchers don't expire.

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I have two questions regarding the mixing process. Pardon me if they are already answered...

1. ChipMixer does not seem to provide any mixer code to track the BTC sent to an address. So, is it possible to get back BTC from the same address, in a subsequent mixing?

2. How long the Vouchers remain valid?

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Quote from: themossinator on January 10, 2023, 11:39:53 AM

So instead I should start a new session and then redeem with my voucher code from the old session?

Yes.

The difference is your voucher won't expire but your session can (after 7 days, if not extended).

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Quote from: jackg on January 10, 2023, 11:29:48 AM

Quote from: themossinator on January 10, 2023, 09:35:04 AM

Hi, I have a query - I deposited coins to chipmixer and noted down what I thought was the correct voucher code - when I went back about 5 days later and restored my session with my session token it said that the voucher token was invalid?
So then I just withdrew the coins to electrum

Would these coins have been properly mixed?

thank you

Any withdraw from chipmixer means your funds would've been mixed.

I don't know why you've done this though. How long was your session open for? Vouchers survive longer than sessions do but it sounds like your session still holds your funds and you changed how you wanted to withdraw them (either by sweeping or exporting private keys).

In future, you should make a new session if you want to redeem a voucher or just restore your old session to spend funds (if you're within the week).

thank you, ok I was probably doing this wrong as each time I used the session token to restore and then used voucher to withdraw, the session was opened about 5 days prior

So instead I should start a new session and then redeem with my voucher code from the old session?

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: themossinator on January 10, 2023, 09:35:04 AM

Hi, I have a query - I deposited coins to chipmixer and noted down what I thought was the correct voucher code - when I went back about 5 days later and restored my session with my session token it said that the voucher token was invalid?
So then I just withdrew the coins to electrum

Would these coins have been properly mixed?

thank you

Any withdraw from chipmixer means your funds would've been mixed.

I don't know why you've done this though. How long was your session open for? Vouchers survive longer than sessions do but it sounds like your session still holds your funds and you changed how you wanted to withdraw them (either by sweeping or exporting private keys).

In future, you should make a new session if you want to redeem a voucher or just restore your old session to spend funds (if you're within the week).

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Hi, I have a query - I deposited coins to chipmixer and noted down what I thought was the correct voucher code - when I went back about 5 days later and restored my session with my session token it said that the voucher token was invalid?
So then I just withdrew the coins to electrum

Would these coins have been properly mixed?

thank you

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Quote from: digaran on January 09, 2023, 05:20:14 PM

Hi there, do you have any plans to retrict the acceptance of known stolen, declaired hacked/ stolen coins?

Why exactly would you want a privacy service to use blockchain analysis to spy on its users?

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Quote from: NotATether on January 08, 2023, 01:32:48 AM

But I don't think KuCoin and possibly Bybit, Bitstamp have an anti-mixer policy either. Instant exchangers should usually also send it through.

I once made the mistake of sending the coins that I've freshly mixed to Bitstamp instead of the ones in my regular wallet from which I always deposit there, quite a large sum above 10k, but I haven't had a problem with them nor was any delay or any further inquiry, I was already verified, the account is 5 or 6 years old so probably they don't even care anymore, this could obviously change if a new user with zero trades deposits 4BTC out of the blue. But probably the risks are there even if you're not mixing coins at all, Bitstamp at least has asked a lot of users about proof of funds, so, the path those coins have taken becomes irrelevant.

As for instant exchanges, I would stay away since a lot of these cases happen ¹

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Quote from: digaran on January 09, 2023, 05:20:14 PM

Hi there, do you have any plans to retrict the acceptance of known stolen, declaired hacked/ stolen coins? Or do you prefer profit above all?

Ask the same question for the Bitcoin protocol, and you'll soon understand why ChipMixer shouldn't restrict their acceptance either.

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