Topic: [ANN] CoinAnalyst – Maximize your trading profits w/ News, Scam Detection & more - page 7. (Read 19421 times)

lots of savedroid worry.... what does partnership actually mean for this project?

what are you gaining

That's really bad and I don't just mean "it looks bad" but it's not right in an objective way. Even if we would assume that both are legit projects (my opinion is not that tbh) it would not be right out of several reasons:

It's not wrong of course that projects go into partnerships and announce that. But the Savedroid-team goes much further, uses direkt contacts and all social platforms to promote the CoinAnalyst ICO and gives Investment-advices to their own Community. And even if we would say that it's not a problem in a legal way - what I'm unsure about because Savedroid is no PR-firm and no Investment-Advisory: How can that be right? How can they be sure that it's good for their own community to buy into Coinanalyst (while their own Investors are still waiting to get their SVD-tokens unlocked and traded on exchange)?

Savedroid obviously didn't ask the following questions:

1. What justifies the high total COY-value of 37.5 million Euro (= $44 million)? Otherwise, why would they think about it since they wanted and got even more?

2. What does it say about the Coinanalyst-team that they copy whole sections of another Whitepaper (Savedroids)?

3. What does it say about a team that copies a whole ICO-concept, from a price-prediction-chart to a spreadsheet, the "made-in-germany-brand" like Savedroid etc.?

4. What does it say about a project that also tries to include the "Binance-model" while obviously not understanding that Binance is different? Binance can buy own tokens back and burn them with profit because they make a shitload of profit in all kinds of different assets. Coinanalyst can not do that because they'll make profit (if they will) only in COY - how will they use those COY to buy back COY? First sell to have BTC and then buy back? Doesn't make any sense. It's just an additional incentive to blind people. Just that is in fact a red flag and it's a big one, because if a team doesn't really think about their own economical model...................


There is more but the point is: Savedroid gives it all to push their own Investors into this while they can not be sure that Coinanalyst will turn out as a good project. And they not only know that Coinanalyst copied a lot of stuff from Savedroid. They try to sell that as strength! And they do all this marketing for "another" project while not delivering on own promises. Their own token is still locked, they still didn't come up with the infamous top5-exchange that was announced back in March and they still didn't manage to get out of the "Scammer-corner" they've put themselves into with their stupid PR-Stunt.


I really don't get the stupidity of these two projects. Coinanalyst should have known that it can not be a good idea to copy stuff from Savedroid. It can not be a good idea to copy stuff from any project, and they don't even think about it all. And Savedroid should've known that it can not be right to promote the ICO of another project. Scammers do that and I would make a bet that Savedroid gets a percentage of the ICO-money or whatever their deal might be. Both projects have a lot in common: They place tons of superficial incentives to lure mostly unexperienced ppl into giving them money. Under the line and in a weird way it's a perfect fit for them. I just doubt that they'll ever be able to build win-win-situations for their Investors.

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Edit and just btw: Two weeks ago or so I was kicked out of the german Savedroid-Channel because I pointed on the fact that they've never told their own Investors how much of the fees they'll burn. They just say "a certain percentage" (Coinanalyst copied also that). I didn't insult anybody, I wasn't personal, I discussed on topic and even replied on an Admin.

Yesterday I was kicked out of the official/english Savedroid-channel because I posted the Whitepaper-comparison and discussed with Tobias (from Savedroid) and asked some questions.

What I want to say is: For Savedroid it's enough to have and ask questions. Once they feel that somebody will not let them get away with their bs they censor.

My last post as a reply on a post of Tobias who said "Actually a lot of whitepapers are written after the ico is planned " was this:

"right. a lot of shady projects do it that way. quality projects often have different whitepaper-versions that are improved many months or even years before they ask for money. and just btw: what do you believe will a legit exchange think about it if they see 1) that coinanalyst copied whole sections of the savedroid-paper and 2) savedroid promotes exactly that? good luck with that"

Result: Delete and Exit ;-)

Savedroid also use The maildresses from ICO as Plattform to advertise The CoinAnalyst ICO (with ref-link)

At least Savedroid gives it all to hype this:

SECURE YOUR 30% #COY #BONUS #TOKEN NOW 👉http://bit.ly/SecureCOYBonusNow … 💰
#CoinAnalystICO #PreSale already >50% sold out‼️🔚🚀

💪#savedroid & @CoinAnalystTech join forces to enhance #AI-based #crypto #ecosystem http://bit.ly/SVDandCOYjoinForces …
 
#savedroidICO #SVD #cryptocurrency #TokenSale
https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/1010890039746859008

lol this is another ico scam from savedroid scamer
don't invest in it

Savedroid = coinanalyst.tech
Savedroid = scam
that mean coinanalyst.tech = scam

He he he...
Thanks for your joke.  I just wonder, How many accounts you have in bitcointalk?
CoinAnalystTech, tabson2, savedroid, hankir1 hankir2 hankir99,... and some new accounts like "Luzieluzie"
And same for reddit.

coinanalyst.tech = LEGIT PROJECT

Do your own research!


All I can see does not sound like a scam project, Ulrikehans. Just because they do a product partnership with soondroid, it doesn't have to be bad or even a scam.

And from what I see CoinAnalyst is indeed independent. You can take a look at the commercial register, the videos on Facebook, google for Cogia / cogia intelligence etc., also check out all the twitter channel where its founder is quite active. Please do differenciated research!

What do you think, Ulrikehans?

Hi everyone!

Here is our statement on the various points of criticism. (We are looking forward to constructive feedback.)

Please read it and make your assumptions based on these facts and get into a discussion with us.

CoinAnalyst is a spin-off of Cogia GmbH from Frankfurt, Germany. Cogia GmbH exists since 2010, with a track record of more than 7 years of intensive development, numerous awards and Fortune 500 customers.

We are familiar with crowdfunding and the like: At the beginning of 2017, we successfully completed a crowd investing via the well-established Companisto crowd investing platform (companisto.com) with almost 1000 investors who have been watching us very closely ever since. Lots of its investors now also support CoinAnalyst already!


savedroid

We know savedroid. We believe in the future of their products – and we don't let plain PR stunts distract us.

The solutions of CoinAnalyst and savedroid complement each other extremely well and has great synergies. This can only be in the interests of all investors! If you want to make "Cryptocurrencies for everyone" possible, you also need "Understanding Cryptocurrencies".

Every savedroid customer needs CoinAnalyst. And every CoinAnalyst receives an easy way to get crypto coins with savedroid. The synergy of the products is obvious – that's why a product partnership like this makes sense. If you don't think so, please let us know why.


Whitepaper

Our whitepaper is almost 30 pages long. Yes, we took some of the paragraphs from Savedroid, because they just make sense. We asked Savedroid for permission. We thought about how we could create more value for our supporters and COY traders – and we looked for the best practices for the COY.

Besides Savedroid as a source of inspiration we also learned from Binance. We got some feedback about the combination of the burning model and the buyback program, but we make it clear how this model works for us. CoinAnalyst is a profit-oriented company – so as soon as we make profits from the sale of our product, the traders also profit from it.

Finally, we chose Token Hodl Discounts, which were also not used by savedroid.


COY and CoinAnalyst in focus

We would be pleased if you continue to follow our development and take a deep look at anything we do! We will continue to respond transparently and adjust if there is justified feedback.

We hope you support our mission to make cryptocurrencies more transparent and trading more secure, by using artificial intelligence and our big data analysis technologies.

Your team of CoinAnalyst

I am not fan of ICOs
but I am watching this one !

It can have real use case,
not like most of the other 'crypto products'

Besides of the obvious plagiarism of the Savedroi-Whitepaper - while already that is bad btw, there is an additional strong sign that these "AI-experts" don't give a shit about logical consistency.

Let's take a look at the Incentive-model. The first part is a copy paste of Savedroid, including the famous "vitalik-says-so-line".

Then comes the "Additionally (...)":

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Whitepaper:

Value and strategy

Our users will be required to purchase all used crypto services within the CoinAnalyst ecosystem using COY. Our token has a built-in deflation mechanism as suggested by Vitalik Buterin (https://vitalik.ca/general/2017/10/17/moe.html). Once a CoinAnalyst token has been used for a purchase within the CoinAnalyst ecosystem, we will collect his CoinAnalyst tokens and burn a certain percentage of these tokens to support the future value of the tokens. CoinAnalyst will inform about the current burn rate on its website. Additionally, we will support the tokens’ value by repurchasing tokens (buyback) with 20% of CoinAnalyst’s profits until we have 1,000,000,000 COY in our Wallet. In other words, a percentage of the CoinAnalyst crypto service fees will automatically be removed from the pool of available COYs by every single purchase. Below the line, this will support the future value of the CoinAnalyst token.

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First: That idea is from Binance ("Every quarter, we will use 20% of our profits to buy back BNB and destroy them (...)").
That's not the problem. The problem is: Binance collects fees and makes profit in all kinds of assets. But CoinAnalyst will collect fees only in COY:

"(...) all used crypto services within the CoinAnalyst ecosystem using COY"


Then they say that they will additionally use that profit to buy back COY.
Will they first sell all what they've collcted to have real profit and take 20% of that profit to buy back COY? Why not simply keep 20% and burn that? Ah damn, that's already included - since they say, like Savedroid, they would simply burn "a certain percentage".

Practically it wouldn't make any sense what they say there, because they don't get the difference between an ecosystem like Binance and their own. But they wanted an additional incentive to blind unexperienced Investors without even thinking about it for 5 minutes.


What do we have here:

1) They copied a lot of a project that is shady as fuck, including the fact that they don't say how much of the collected fees they will burn but "a certain percentage"
2) They add a few lines that make zero sense, but clearly show what this is about - to blind unexperienced Investors, to tell them "this will have value!"


The partnership with Savedroid is a perfect match. Both projects: Smoke and Mirrors.

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Just btw: Even the document one can download, their "revenue-model", is from Savedroid. They didn't even change the "hospital-green":

To international investors:
I strongly recommend to not participate in this ICO. The whitepaper is in parts a plagarism of the Savedroid whitepaper and the project cooperates with Savedroid. That alone should be a warning. Everyone should know what has happened with Savedroid recently. If you do not want to lose money, stay away from it.

coinanalyst.tech = savedroid.com

Do not participate in coinanalyst ICO.  It's the same of SVD. We all lost our money in SVD.  4 Months passed and still there is not any exchange.  STAY AWAY FROM COY.


Made in Germany, Same pattern, Same token supply, Same price, Same team, ....

They just want more money.

Look at their website.  Also check the price chart      They are so stupid. All things are same.

Stay away from COY and SVD



For  COY followers,  read this topic (at least  last 15 pages):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2578161.3360

anything to do with Savedroid is dodgy.......I will pass on this one for sure!

 I already found your project a bit fishy. (Scam Detection?) Thanks to the collaboration with the untrustworthy Amateurs from Savedroid, you have set yourself aside. I do not even want your token as a gift. 

You have long been looking for something like this, then I can advise you only just it

Hi Zossia! As we are a true utility token under German regulations and already have a working basic product our future development is based on we do not require a softcap. The 20M EUR is our target which allows us to execute our whole roadmap as planned.

Does that answer your question?

New idea. Im waiting for more info.

I didn't understand,  what is the target for soft cap? 20000000 Euro?  Very little information about this platform in ann.....