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Topic: [ANN] CureCoin 2.0 is live - Mandatory Update is available now - DEC 2018 - page 183. (Read 696267 times)

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Some 200 coins later it is already time for me to say good bye. I switched my little GPU power back to my home team.

Job well done from CygnusXI and his team. While it it obvious that CureCoin attracts quite a number of new users for folding, which is great for science, it is for the price of having a mono-team setup.

That's what I don't like so much.

I will continue looking after the project as it's linked to folding, which I really like. I will continue learning about the whole crypto currency thing, which I still not fully understand.

Keep folding ! Smiley

You, and all the other folders out there are heroes in my eyes. The folding community has been supporting extremely important medical research for many years now, and you've done it for honor, prestige, loved ones, and often simply because it's something wonderful you can do for humanity. Those of us doing it now for CureCoins, when we weren't before, are generally doing it because someone made a bitcoin-like digital coin that had an amazing cause - so we might be able to make some money and do some good at the same time.

Those of us in Crypto have been throwing computing power away, and it's been haunting many of us. The primary purpose of the 'block' we're trying to solve is just to be so difficult that it takes everyone working on it X time to solve it. The coins, security, transaction ledger, etc. is just a byproduct of the otherwise useless computing exercise. And that has haunted those of us that know how great an impact all that computing power would have if it was put to good use.

We've effectively set up a rat race for ourselves that gets more complicated the faster we run the race. Our rats are now running near lightspeed, and all they're doing is running the stupid race.

I don't know how this is going to sound to someone outside of crypto, but I very much believe it to be true, though I couldn't possibly prove it. The amount of computing power dedicated to cryptocurrencies is an order of magnitude greater than anything that has ever been invested into the folding@home project. We're not trying to pool up people from other teams, though I'm sure that unfortunate side effect was anticipated. What you're seeing on the CureCoin team is mostly our community, and a very tiny fraction of it at that - on the order of <%1 of all the GPU's, CPU's, and cloud instances currently dedicated to mining other coins. That is why there has been such a meteoric rise in power shown on our team.

It would be nice if, sometime in the future, we could disperse, and fill the ranks of other teams, and still receive credit from CureCoin, for the good of the Folding@Home Community. It would allow you guys to take part without abandoning your own teams. But for the moment, CureCoin is just this fledgling thing trying to get off the ground.

Please understand that we respect all of you, and hold you all in the highest regard. We don't want to do anything to hurt the Folding@Home project, or anyone involved in it, and when any issues do arise, please be assured that the community will work hard to find and implement an acceptable solution for everyone.

Thank you for being a part of us and helping us through this early time. We truly do appreciate it.


Well said and I couldn't agree more!  +1

Ironically crypto introduced me to Folding@Home and I'm sure I'm not the only one.  I had no idea what Folding@Home was prior to seeing the announcement for CureCoin and reading about it.
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Is there an ETA on the Curecoin website being finished?
sr. member
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Been mining in cryptobullion since day one but only started out with ~800 000 PPD and those machines were hanging WU's on the first days also. For the past 36 hours I have been mining full on about 8 000 000 PPD a day and the gain in my total score pretty much confirms that. Cryptobullion is showing only 1 500 000 for my 24h avarage and so is http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/. Reading from the extremeoverclocking FAQ they say that the 24h avarage is calculated total points for last 7 days divided by seven. As Cryptobullion and extremeoverclocking numbers are almost identical I can assume that cryptobullion uses the same calculation. So you are actually getting paid for your last SEVEN DAYS avarage daily production not the last 24h production Undecided So for the first couple of days you are gettng paid almost nothing but just building up your avarage.
In a way this could be a good thing stabilizing the market but at the moment I feel kinda deceived as I am getting paid only 19% of what I am actually mining and this will be big discouragement for any new folders.



Except you aren't getting paid for your 24 hour production. It just takes time for the system to update. What cryptobullion shows as your 24h average doesn't define what you get paid and the wait in the beginning is for the system to update.


The amount you get paid is the points / everyone's points * 7488 for any given day.

Dont want to whine on the "where are my coins Cheesy" subject but if not my 24h production points, not my 24h average points shown by cryptobullion itself, what "points" are they using then  Grin ?

It is your 24h production points they just haven't updated it yet.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250

Some 200 coins later it is already time for me to say good bye. I switched my little GPU power back to my home team.

Job well done from CygnusXI and his team. While it it obvious that CureCoin attracts quite a number of new users for folding, which is great for science, it is for the price of having a mono-team setup.

That's what I don't like so much.

I will continue looking after the project as it's linked to folding, which I really like. I will continue learning about the whole crypto currency thing, which I still not fully understand.

Keep folding ! Smiley

You, and all the other folders out there are heroes in my eyes. The folding community has been supporting extremely important medical research for many years now, and you've done it for honor, prestige, loved ones, and often simply because it's something wonderful you can do for humanity. Those of us doing it now for CureCoins, when we weren't before, are generally doing it because someone made a bitcoin-like digital coin that had an amazing cause - so we might be able to make some money and do some good at the same time.

Those of us in Crypto have been throwing computing power away, and it's been haunting many of us. The primary purpose of the 'block' we're trying to solve is just to be so difficult that it takes everyone working on it X time to solve it. The coins, security, transaction ledger, etc. is just a byproduct of the otherwise useless computing exercise. And that has haunted those of us that know how great an impact all that computing power would have if it was put to good use.

We've effectively set up a rat race for ourselves that gets more complicated the faster we run the race. Our rats are now running near lightspeed, and all they're doing is running the stupid race.

I don't know how this is going to sound to someone outside of crypto, but I very much believe it to be true, though I couldn't possibly prove it. The amount of computing power dedicated to cryptocurrencies is an order of magnitude greater than anything that has ever been invested into the folding@home project. We're not trying to pool up people from other teams, though I'm sure that unfortunate side effect was anticipated. What you're seeing on the CureCoin team is mostly our community, and a very tiny fraction of it at that - on the order of <%1 of all the GPU's, CPU's, and cloud instances currently dedicated to mining other coins. That is why there has been such a meteoric rise in power shown on our team.

It would be nice if, sometime in the future, we could disperse, and fill the ranks of other teams, and still receive credit from CureCoin, for the good of the Folding@Home Community. It would allow you guys to take part without abandoning your own teams. But for the moment, CureCoin is just this fledgling thing trying to get off the ground.

Please understand that we respect all of you, and hold you all in the highest regard. We don't want to do anything to hurt the Folding@Home project, or anyone involved in it, and when any issues do arise, please be assured that the community will work hard to find and implement an acceptable solution for everyone.

Thank you for being a part of us and helping us through this early time. We truly do appreciate it.
full member
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Been mining in cryptobullion since day one but only started out with ~800 000 PPD and those machines were hanging WU's on the first days also. For the past 36 hours I have been mining full on about 8 000 000 PPD a day and the gain in my total score pretty much confirms that. Cryptobullion is showing only 1 500 000 for my 24h avarage and so is http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/. Reading from the extremeoverclocking FAQ they say that the 24h avarage is calculated total points for last 7 days divided by seven. As Cryptobullion and extremeoverclocking numbers are almost identical I can assume that cryptobullion uses the same calculation. So you are actually getting paid for your last SEVEN DAYS avarage daily production not the last 24h production Undecided So for the first couple of days you are gettng paid almost nothing but just building up your avarage.
In a way this could be a good thing stabilizing the market but at the moment I feel kinda deceived as I am getting paid only 19% of what I am actually mining and this will be big discouragement for any new folders.



Except you aren't getting paid for your 24 hour production. It just takes time for the system to update. What cryptobullion shows as your 24h average doesn't define what you get paid and the wait in the beginning is for the system to update.


The amount you get paid is the points / everyone's points * 7488 for any given day.

Dont want to whine on the "where are my coins Cheesy" subject but if not my 24h production points, not my 24h average points shown by cryptobullion itself, what "points" are they using then  Grin ?
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
Love the coin idea.  I think it would benefit the longevity of this coin if it were to be on a higher volume exchange.  Has anyone contacted Poloniex?!

I just shot them an email.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250

Some 200 coins later it is already time for me to say good bye. I switched my little GPU power back to my home team.

Job well done from CygnusXI and his team. While it it obvious that CureCoin attracts quite a number of new users for folding, which is great for science, it is for the price of having a mono-team setup.

That's what I don't like so much.

I will continue looking after the project as it's linked to folding, which I really like. I will continue learning about the whole crypto currency thing, which I still not fully understand.

Keep folding ! Smiley

Sad to see you go you've been a great help.

Our reason for a mono team setup is two fold. First it keeps all of curecoin's contributions measurable which I'm sure you've already seen has been decent press because of how many coins we are getting. We also didn't want people mining with both EVGA and Curecoin to try and get money.
sr. member
Activity: 294
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Love the coin idea.  I think it would benefit the longevity of this coin if it were to be on a higher volume exchange.  Has anyone contacted Poloniex?!

Not that I know of.



Guys make sure you all join curecoin.us
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 100
Hello,
I am early investor/donator and would like to get the promised coins. Anyone got them so far?

Dev were talking about a delay for investor to get their coin...

560k coins that would be dumped would kill the project...

Is 560k the whole premine or just the IPO?


This entire thing is making me nervous i hope this is not going to turn into another scam.


1. where is the public address for the entire bulk of the coins?

2. is it split into 2% investors pot,  3% dev premine,  75% of the other coins are also premined?? where is the public address for this huge bulk of coins.

3. who has access to the coins?

4. who are these people.


why was all of this not on the OP just looks shady to me. You need full accountability when running this large of a project.

Who are these devs? what are their real ids?


Come on let's have some details and credibility for this coin? why was all of this not public to start with and why is nobody else even asking these questions?

Seriously if this turns into a scam the media attention could be a catastrophe for crypto in general.


Most of the coins (23 Million Cur) sit pretty on this address: BKZZ7XAvFiQ283qzJqySKNvU3F5kJ6esvE
Some have been chopped up and forwarded to so many addresses it's hard to follow. It's been day's now since last promised to list all the addresses.

Most of your question have been addressed here by devs before but there are also some details unexplained and it's weird they are not being answered.

Like how are these funds being managed - Are the folding payouts being done manually ? What happens in the case of the private key holder dieing or smth, bit weird that there is no official block explorer etc. ?

sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Hello,
I am early investor/donator and would like to get the promised coins. Anyone got them so far?

Dev were talking about a delay for investor to get their coin...

560k coins that would be dumped would kill the project...

Is 560k the whole premine or just the IPO?


This entire thing is making me nervous i hope this is not going to turn into another scam.


1. where is the public address for the entire bulk of the coins?

2. is it split into 2% investors pot,  3% dev premine,  75% of the other coins are also premined?? where is the public address for this huge bulk of coins.

3. who has access to the coins?

4. who are these people.


why was all of this not on the OP just looks shady to me. You need full accountability when running this large of a project.

Who are these devs? what are their real ids?


Come on let's have some details and credibility for this coin? why was all of this not public to start with and why is nobody else even asking these questions?

Seriously if this turns into a scam the media attention could be a catastrophe for crypto in general.

1) There is a block explorer so we could look it up, I don't know off the top of my head.

2) The rest of the coin is for folding same question as #1

3) No one has access - they are released to developers over time.

4) Look at cygnus's post on page 20.



As for who the devs are please read the post on page 20.
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Love the coin idea.  I think it would benefit the longevity of this coin if it were to be on a higher volume exchange.  Has anyone contacted Poloniex?!
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Been mining in cryptobullion since day one but only started out with ~800 000 PPD and those machines were hanging WU's on the first days also. For the past 36 hours I have been mining full on about 8 000 000 PPD a day and the gain in my total score pretty much confirms that. Cryptobullion is showing only 1 500 000 for my 24h avarage and so is http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/. Reading from the extremeoverclocking FAQ they say that the 24h avarage is calculated total points for last 7 days divided by seven. As Cryptobullion and extremeoverclocking numbers are almost identical I can assume that cryptobullion uses the same calculation. So you are actually getting paid for your last SEVEN DAYS avarage daily production not the last 24h production Undecided So for the first couple of days you are gettng paid almost nothing but just building up your avarage.
In a way this could be a good thing stabilizing the market but at the moment I feel kinda deceived as I am getting paid only 19% of what I am actually mining and this will be big discouragement for any new folders.



Except you aren't getting paid for your 24 hour production. It just takes time for the system to update. What cryptobullion shows as your 24h average doesn't define what you get paid and the wait in the beginning is for the system to update.


The amount you get paid is the points / everyone's points * 7488 for any given day.
legendary
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Thanks for the reply and info! I will take your adivce, One more odd thing,when I tried the pause and restart suggestion,when the client had stopped everything the progress on the WU in question dropped back to 58%,restart and it jumped fright back to 99.99%

I've found that restarting the computer without pausing the client first resets the work units more reliably than when I pause it first.  Additionally keep in mind the 58% is just where the WU had actually crashed before.  The 99.99% is just cosmetic.  It means nothing except the client has lost track of where it at with that particular WU.  It will eventually resync but it can take hours.

Try to restart your computer without pausing the folding first.  That seems to jar it back into resetting the issue and trying again but make sure you adjust your GPU clock settings first or you are just going to run into the issue again.

Thanks again,I put the cards back to default,they were running at my normal minning OC settings. I'll let them go for the rest of the afternoon and see what happens.
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I will be overtaken shortly. But for now, I am the person with the most points in the team that has highest ppd. Smiley
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So far so good, Loving this Project, Why ?

  • Helping science by folding
  • Making money
  • Rigs are nice and cool
sr. member
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Thanks for the reply and info! I will take your adivce, One more odd thing,when I tried the pause and restart suggestion,when the client had stopped everything the progress on the WU in question dropped back to 58%,restart and it jumped fright back to 99.99%

I've found that restarting the computer without pausing the client first resets the work units more reliably than when I pause it first.  Additionally keep in mind the 58% is just where the WU had actually crashed before.  The 99.99% is just cosmetic.  It means nothing except the client has lost track of where it at with that particular WU.  It will eventually resync but it can take hours.

Try to restart your computer without pausing the folding first.  That seems to jar it back into resetting the issue and trying again but make sure you adjust your GPU clock settings first or you are just going to run into the issue again.
legendary
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kqpahv posted some information directly from the folding forums about this a few pages back.

The issue you are seeing with the WU that appear to be stuck at 99.99% is actually a sync issue in the client.  What is actually happening is that your GPU has encountered an issue.  You can confirm this by looking at the log tab inside the FAH Control client for the specific work unit and you will see it actually stopped updating long before 99.99%.  I had no errors in my logs and didn't see any errors in Windows event viewer but the data being sent in the log stopped long before the 99.99%

The problem is almost guaranteed to be an overclocking problem on your graphics cards.  I had to tone my R9 290X TRI-X cards down to standard 290X speeds.  One computer still had hung work units so I slowed the core clock speed down to 990 MHz instead of 1000 and will keep dropping it until the GPU's can handle the work.  Keep in mind these cards were factory over clocked but that made no difference with folding.  The overclocking got in the way and actually slowed down my WU submission.

TLDR:  Lower your GPU clock and memory speeds until the "hung WU" issue no longer happens.  As a reference I'm using a core clock speed of 1000 MHz and memory clock of 1250 on my R9 290X TRI-X cards (much lower than the factory defaults).  Even at these speeds I still had to reduce the core clock speed on two of these cards down more to 990 MHz and will continue to lower them 10 MHz at a time until the work units get submitted without incident.


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Thanks for the reply and info! I will take your adivce, One more odd thing,when I tried the pause and restart suggestion,when the client had stopped everything the progress on the WU in question dropped back to 58%,restart and it jumped fright back to 99.99%
sr. member
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Some 200 coins later it is already time for me to say good bye. I switched my little GPU power back to my home team.

Job well done from CygnusXI and his team. While it it obvious that CureCoin attracts quite a number of new users for folding, which is great for science, it is for the price of having a mono-team setup.

That's what I don't like so much.

I will continue looking after the project as it's linked to folding, which I really like. I will continue learning about the whole crypto currency thing, which I still not fully understand.

Keep folding ! Smiley

Sorry to see you go! The information you have provided for folding has been quite helpful.  I'm new to folding so I can't say much about the teams but I would like to try to encourage your team to join CureCoin.  At least you have the chance to recover the cost of doing what you are going to do anyway.  It is a win / win!

I plan on using my hardware to fold from now on.  I didn't like "mining" because of the waste of energy and honestly the heat.  The difference in heat generated between Scrypt mining and folding with the exact same hardware is stunning.  I no longer need additional AC cooling to offset the heat generated and the basement doesn't sound like being inside a tornado anymore.  I would love to see all crypto's move toward the CureCoin model of scientific research for your coins and imagine this will expand in the future.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
Hello,
I am early investor/donator and would like to get the promised coins. Anyone got them so far?

Dev were talking about a delay for investor to get their coin...

560k coins that would be dumped would kill the project...

Is 560k the whole premine or just the IPO?


This entire thing is making me nervous i hope this is not going to turn into another scam.


1. where is the public address for the entire bulk of the coins?

2. is it split into 2% investors pot,  3% dev premine,  75% of the other coins are also premined?? where is the public address for this huge bulk of coins.

3. who has access to the coins?

4. who are these people.


why was all of this not on the OP just looks shady to me. You need full accountability when running this large of a project.

Who are these devs? what are their real ids?


Come on let's have some details and credibility for this coin? why was all of this not public to start with and why is nobody else even asking these questions?

Seriously if this turns into a scam the media attention could be a catastrophe for crypto in general.

A scam with a 7 months setup... I highly doubt it, + Standford wouldn't involved so much in the project if it was really a scam...

Why are the questions not being addressed?

I asked these days ago and yet the devs still have not posted the public address where the coins are held?

Who are these devs?

What will you say if a huge dump happens in a few months and they stop posting?

Of course i'm 75% sure they are not scammers else i would not be folding away. However it is reckless and thoughtless that they don't see fit to provide any accountability at all for this project.

Any other coin with such a MONSTER premine would be getting all kinds of questions by now.





Most these questions have already been answered https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6688632
sr. member
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Hi,

I have one GPU with it's WU stuck @ 99.99% for several hours now. I paused the other GPU for 30min and no change. i seen this problem from another user but he didn't get an answer. Should I select that GPU and use the "Finish" option,reboot the PC? Project is 13001
pause the miner then completely close down the client. wait 10 seconds and open it again. That normally fixes it for me

I have the same problem
2 of cards folding 14h to 99.99% and they are idle 9h. and dont want to finish.
My PC have same problem - I paused and restart - after 2h everythig was OK byt only with 6000 credits (for R9 290x) ?!?!

kqpahv posted some information directly from the folding forums about this a few pages back.

The issue you are seeing with the WU that appear to be stuck at 99.99% is actually a sync issue in the client.  What is actually happening is that your GPU has encountered an issue.  You can confirm this by looking at the log tab inside the FAH Control client for the specific work unit and you will see it actually stopped updating long before 99.99%.  I had no errors in my logs and didn't see any errors in Windows event viewer but the data being sent in the log stopped long before the 99.99%

The problem is almost guaranteed to be an overclocking problem on your graphics cards.  I had to tone my R9 290X TRI-X cards down to standard 290X speeds.  One computer still had hung work units so I slowed the core clock speed down to 990 MHz instead of 1000 and will keep dropping it until the GPU's can handle the work.  Keep in mind these cards were factory over clocked but that made no difference with folding.  The overclocking got in the way and actually slowed down my WU submission.

TLDR:  Lower your GPU clock and memory speeds until the "hung WU" issue no longer happens.  As a reference I'm using a core clock speed of 1000 MHz and memory clock of 1250 on my R9 290X TRI-X cards (much lower than the factory defaults).  Even at these speeds I still had to reduce the core clock speed on two of these cards down more to 990 MHz and will continue to lower them 10 MHz at a time until the work units get submitted without incident.

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