[ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts - page 23.

krypt0id

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Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 05:07:53 PM

Quote from: Mojo_LB on July 23, 2018, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: MagicSmoker on July 23, 2018, 04:44:10 PM

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

...captain agreed that there are issues and suggested I work on them..

The way I read that convo, it was more like Captain was challenging you to prove your assertion by presenting a solution, rather than agreeing that there was a problem in the first place. This is a common tactic of his and one that usually shuts the complainer up. You being a notable exception, of course.

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

Then again you say c**p about Serena/Mojo because they banned a bunch of people.. what a bunch of hypocrites

I talk shit about a lot of people because internet. That said, I've only banned one person - versus the >50 by S&M - so it's a bit early to be calling me a hypocrite. Pretty much everyone except Sajo8 was happy to see you go, and Saj08 seemed more concern this was a return to the evil S&M days. But I haven't broken out the ball gag and whip just yet.

I still call hypocrite..

Wow.. Mojo calling you guys hypocrites.. That's a new low even for you

You're on mojo's side, new low for you.

krypt0id

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Quote from: Mojo_LB on July 23, 2018, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: MagicSmoker on July 23, 2018, 04:44:10 PM

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

...captain agreed that there are issues and suggested I work on them..

The way I read that convo, it was more like Captain was challenging you to prove your assertion by presenting a solution, rather than agreeing that there was a problem in the first place. This is a common tactic of his and one that usually shuts the complainer up. You being a notable exception, of course.

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

Then again you say c**p about Serena/Mojo because they banned a bunch of people.. what a bunch of hypocrites

I talk shit about a lot of people because internet. That said, I've only banned one person - versus the >50 by S&M - so it's a bit early to be calling me a hypocrite. Pretty much everyone except Sajo8 was happy to see you go, and Saj08 seemed more concern this was a return to the evil S&M days. But I haven't broken out the ball gag and whip just yet.

I still call hypocrite...

You would.

Hueristic

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Quote from: b9ron on July 22, 2018, 11:46:19 PM

kek, I wonder who is embarrassing himself right now.

They have been tiny exploit hidden in Linux Kernel code in plain view to tons of reviewers and they didn't see it, why ? Because one character was misplaced and worked after compilation, thanks to C.

That character misplaced was identified further like an Elevation Privilege Exploit.

It's like in C if you forget parenthesis in some Macro you gonna fuck the calculus logic :

Code:

#define SQUARE_A(x) x*x
#define SQUARE_B(x) (x)*(x)

Replace x by 2+3, SQUARE_A will fail, not SQUARE_B.

Now try to take a simple project in Go and compile it on different architecture and computer with and without cross compiler, and check the result. Even if you have 1:1 code you will never get the 1:1 binary code.

There was never better place than 127.0.0.1 Grin

20 year exploit in bash had nothing to do with it's size dunkof. It was not in the kernel and even if it had been that wouldn't matter anyway as an exploit is just that and it does not matter what the fuck the size of it is!

After a moments thought I think I know what you are trying to say.
You are trying to say a tiny error in coding as in a small syntax error.
Is English your second language?

CryptoJohnSmith

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Quote from: Mojo_LB on July 23, 2018, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: MagicSmoker on July 23, 2018, 04:44:10 PM

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

...captain agreed that there are issues and suggested I work on them..

The way I read that convo, it was more like Captain was challenging you to prove your assertion by presenting a solution, rather than agreeing that there was a problem in the first place. This is a common tactic of his and one that usually shuts the complainer up. You being a notable exception, of course.

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

Then again you say c**p about Serena/Mojo because they banned a bunch of people.. what a bunch of hypocrites

I talk shit about a lot of people because internet. That said, I've only banned one person - versus the >50 by S&M - so it's a bit early to be calling me a hypocrite. Pretty much everyone except Sajo8 was happy to see you go, and Saj08 seemed more concern this was a return to the evil S&M days. But I haven't broken out the ball gag and whip just yet.

I still call hypocrite..

Wow.. Mojo calling you guys hypocrites.. That's a new low even for you

Mojo_LB

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Quote from: MagicSmoker on July 23, 2018, 04:44:10 PM

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

...captain agreed that there are issues and suggested I work on them..

The way I read that convo, it was more like Captain was challenging you to prove your assertion by presenting a solution, rather than agreeing that there was a problem in the first place. This is a common tactic of his and one that usually shuts the complainer up. You being a notable exception, of course.

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

Then again you say c**p about Serena/Mojo because they banned a bunch of people.. what a bunch of hypocrites

I talk shit about a lot of people because internet. That said, I've only banned one person - versus the >50 by S&M - so it's a bit early to be calling me a hypocrite. Pretty much everyone except Sajo8 was happy to see you go, and Saj08 seemed more concern this was a return to the evil S&M days. But I haven't broken out the ball gag and whip just yet.

I still call hypocrite...

MagicSmoker

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Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

...captain agreed that there are issues and suggested I work on them..

The way I read that convo, it was more like Captain was challenging you to prove your assertion by presenting a solution, rather than agreeing that there was a problem in the first place. This is a common tactic of his and one that usually shuts the complainer up. You being a notable exception, of course.

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 04:25:22 PM

Then again you say c**p about Serena/Mojo because they banned a bunch of people.. what a bunch of hypocrites

I talk shit about a lot of people because internet. That said, I've only banned one person - versus the >50 by S&M - so it's a bit early to be calling me a hypocrite. Pretty much everyone except Sajo8 was happy to see you go, and Saj08 seemed more concern this was a return to the evil S&M days. But I haven't broken out the ball gag and whip just yet.

CryptoJohnSmith

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Quote from: MagicSmoker on July 23, 2018, 03:14:54 PM

Quote from: danspasiva on July 23, 2018, 03:04:39 PM

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 02:42:08 PM

So if someone doesn't blindly praises, gets kicked?

I think anyone who reviews your case and reads your messages will see that you were being toxic, and no matter what was told to you in response to whatever questions you had, you refused to accept any answers and kept being toxic.

Yes, pretty much this. The irony here is that I rather forcefully argued for not banning JohnSmith two days ago, but then he/she/it proved that Kryptoid's initial ban was totally justified.

You ban people for not being positively praising your geniusness, even though captain agreed that there are issues and suggested I work on them..

Then again you say c**p about Serena/Mojo because they banned a bunch of people.. what a bunch of hypocrites

Anyway buy wall gone.. see you all at 1 sats Cheesy

MagicSmoker

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Quote from: danspasiva on July 23, 2018, 03:04:39 PM

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 02:42:08 PM

So if someone doesn't blindly praises, gets kicked?

I think anyone who reviews your case and reads your messages will see that you were being toxic, and no matter what was told to you in response to whatever questions you had, you refused to accept any answers and kept being toxic.

Yes, pretty much this. The irony here is that I rather forcefully argued for not banning JohnSmith two days ago, but then he/she/it proved that Kryptoid's initial ban was totally justified.

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Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 02:42:08 PM

Quote from: jopari on July 23, 2018, 02:15:21 PM

Quote from: Panetymerni on July 23, 2018, 01:22:50 PM

great coin with all this features, i think will buy some now after this 80% dump.
will be checking

Finally, someone else who thinks that DERO is undervalued given its promise and features, despite the efforts of the disproportionately scathing FUD brigade.

So if someone doesn't blindly praises, gets kicked?

I think anyone who reviews your case and reads your messages will see that you were being toxic, and no matter what was told to you in response to whatever questions you had, you refused to accept any answers and kept being toxic.

MagicSmoker

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Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 02:42:08 PM

So if someone doesn't blindly praises, gets kicked?

Yep. We are 100% programmed automatons. Beep... Boop... Beep... Beep.

CryptoJohnSmith

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Quote from: jopari on July 23, 2018, 02:15:21 PM

Quote from: Panetymerni on July 23, 2018, 01:22:50 PM

great coin with all this features, i think will buy some now after this 80% dump.
will be checking

Finally, someone else who thinks that DERO is undervalued given its promise and features, despite the efforts of the disproportionately scathing FUD brigade.

So if someone doesn't blindly praises, gets kicked?

jopari

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Quote from: Panetymerni on July 23, 2018, 01:22:50 PM

great coin with all this features, i think will buy some now after this 80% dump.
will be checking

Finally, someone else who thinks that DERO is undervalued given its promise and features, despite the efforts of the disproportionately scathing FUD brigade.

Panetymerni

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great coin with all this features, i think will buy some now after this 80% dump.
will be checking

CryptoJohnSmith

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Quote from: MagicSmoker on July 23, 2018, 01:04:52 PM

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 12:54:31 PM

Then again ban everyone who asks questions, and accuse them of being Serena or Mojo

Captain today asked me to find and propose a solution for emission and messed up economics, and now mods ban me

Wow

Huh

Yep. We suppress all dissent now. You must be a mindless automaton to avoid being banned.

Ok can you or captain say if he's putting a new buy wall or not? I need to know for reasons...

MagicSmoker

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Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 23, 2018, 12:54:31 PM

Then again ban everyone who asks questions, and accuse them of being Serena or Mojo

Captain today asked me to find and propose a solution for emission and messed up economics, and now mods ban me

Wow

Huh

Yep. We suppress all dissent now. You must be a mindless automaton to avoid being banned.

CryptoJohnSmith

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Then again ban everyone who asks questions, and accuse them of being Serena or Mojo

Captain today asked me to find and propose a solution for emission and messed up economics, and now mods ban me

Wow

Huh

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Quote from: MagicSmoker on July 23, 2018, 07:06:27 AM

Quote from: 0x000090 on July 23, 2018, 06:43:33 AM

That is accurate, and is an unfortunate consequence of dero having taken the code closed-source, which was just shortsighted and unnecessary. That action irrevocably shifted things from a "trust in the code" situation to a "trust in the team" one. Which itself is fine, so long as a person has a clear understanding that this is what they are doing.

Shockingly, we are in at least partial agreement. In an earlier post to this thread I basically said you can have anonymous devs or closed source but not both.

Yes, we are in agreement on that, it's my initial litmus test for any new project; if asked to choose between the two, I'll take the anon dev + open source scenario, as it's pure do-it-yourself (neither cheap nor easy to successfully bring suit against legal entities, let alone internationally).

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Quote from: 0x000090 on July 23, 2018, 06:43:33 AM

That is accurate, and is an unfortunate consequence of dero having taken the code closed-source, which was just shortsighted and unnecessary. That action irrevocably shifted things from a "trust in the code" situation to a "trust in the team" one. Which itself is fine, so long as a person has a clear understanding that this is what they are doing.

Shockingly, we are in at least partial agreement. In an earlier post to this thread I basically said you can have anonymous devs or closed source but not both.

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Quote from: MagicSmoker on July 23, 2018, 06:21:31 AM

Quote from: 0x000090 on July 23, 2018, 05:57:42 AM

...
You wrote that you had been pushing for source release "for the version of Atlantis which has been out for ~1 month", and I responded by saying it would be a problem if the commit history going back to the last public derosuite commit were not included, and that even if it was, it would still be problematic, given that git is not immutable.
...

Okay, there was a slight misunderstanding, but not a major one. After all, you once again said that even if you had the commit history going back to the last public release of DeroSuite that you still couldn't be sure that the history hadn't been "revised," let's say, because git itself is not immutable.

That really seems like you are saying you won't trust any code release, even if it includes all the commit history, version control, etc.

That is accurate, and is an unfortunate consequence of dero having taken the code closed-source, which was just shortsighted and unnecessary. That action irrevocably shifted things from a "trust in the code" situation to a "trust in the team" one. Which itself is fine, so long as a person has a clear understanding that this is what they are doing.

MagicSmoker

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Quote from: 0x000090 on July 23, 2018, 05:57:42 AM

...
You wrote that you had been pushing for source release "for the version of Atlantis which has been out for ~1 month", and I responded by saying it would be a problem if the commit history going back to the last public derosuite commit were not included, and that even if it was, it would still be problematic, given that git is not immutable.
...

Okay, there was a slight misunderstanding, but not a major one. After all, you once again said that even if you had the commit history going back to the last public release of DeroSuite that you still couldn't be sure that the history hadn't been "revised," let's say, because git itself is not immutable.

That really seems like you are saying you won't trust any code release, even if it includes all the commit history, version control, etc.

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