[ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts - page 18.

yss105

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Quote from: MATTX on July 30, 2018, 04:58:07 AM

Quote from: yss105 on July 30, 2018, 03:55:58 AM

FUD Formula:
FUD = AD + NT + NAeP + CPiT + URP + ~~NSC~~ + PoR

FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
AD: Anonymous Developer
NT: Non-Transparency (e.g. unlocked pre-mined wallet / secretly transferring out the pre-mined balance)
NAeP: Not addressing existing Problem correctly (e.g. uncontrolled block/side-block generation, coin emission is not as per whitepaper.)
CPiT: Communication problem among team member (e.g. key team member(s) suddenly left)
URP: Unreleased Product
NSC: No Source Code Released
PoR: Personal Level of Risk-Tolerance

I think it's logical and normal to have some FUD in this project. Once all components are removed, the FUD will be gone by itself.
Currently buying Dero is like gambling with your money. If you can't afford to lose your money, please stay away and watch. Otherwise, let's FOMO, cross our finger and support the development team so that they can deliver the new crypto tech.

@yss105 Can you add NBS + NF + OD fields in your formula. It will add more weight and credibility to your formula esle you are also spreading fudd.
NBS: New Blockchain from scratch , yeah Dero has written new blockchain from scratch.
NF: Not Fork , Yeah Dero is not fork. Its original. How many coins you see which are not forks.
OD: Original Developers. Yeah Dero have original developers and maintainers.

Have Fun, you cannot stop Dero.

Good points. But your additional components are actually good factors that create FOMO instead of adding more FUD

FOMO = NBS + NF + OD

FOMO: Fear of Missing Out

If FOMO > FUD then [People will buy and price will go up]
If FOMO < FUD then [People will sell and price will go down]
If FOMO = FUD ---->>>> Stagnant.

I am not trying to stop Dero. I support Dero. But if I can contribute to make/push it to be more open/transparent it'll be better for the community as a whole.

MATTX

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Quote from: yss105 on July 30, 2018, 03:55:58 AM

FUD Formula:
FUD = AD + NT + NAeP + CPiT + URP + ~~NSC~~ + PoR

FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
AD: Anonymous Developer
NT: Non-Transparency (e.g. unlocked pre-mined wallet / secretly transferring out the pre-mined balance)
NAeP: Not addressing existing Problem correctly (e.g. uncontrolled block/side-block generation, coin emission is not as per whitepaper.)
CPiT: Communication problem among team member (e.g. key team member(s) suddenly left)
URP: Unreleased Product
NSC: No Source Code Released
PoR: Personal Level of Risk-Tolerance

I think it's logical and normal to have some FUD in this project. Once all components are removed, the FUD will be gone by itself.
Currently buying Dero is like gambling with your money. If you can't afford to lose your money, please stay away and watch. Otherwise, let's FOMO, cross our finger and support the development team so that they can deliver the new crypto tech.

@yss105 Can you add NBS + NF + OD fields in your formula. It will add more weight and credibility to your formula esle you are also spreading fudd.
NBS: New Blockchain from scratch , yeah Dero has written new blockchain from scratch.
NF: Not Fork , Yeah Dero is not fork. Its original. How many coins you see which are not forks.
OD: Original Developers. Yeah Dero have original developers and maintainers.

Have Fun, you cannot stop Dero.

scott d

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- Sourse code released : https://github.com/deroproject/derosuite

- Comunication with team is good ( you can talk with dev and team directly on discord : https://discord.gg/tt7Q5FP )

- Soon DERO foundation, with list of member team

- More risk , More profit

Dero is a startup, project with good fundamental

Quote from: yss105 on July 30, 2018, 03:55:58 AM

FUD Formula:
FUD = AD + NT + NAeP + CPiT + URP + ~~NSC~~ + PoR

FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
AD: Anonymous Developer
NT: Non-Transparency (e.g. unlocked pre-mined wallet / secretly transferring out the pre-mined balance)
NAeP: Not addressing existing Problem correctly (e.g. uncontrolled block/side-block generation, coin emission is not as per whitepaper.)
CPiT: Communication problem among team member (e.g. key team member(s) suddenly left)
URP: Unreleased Product
NSC: No Source Code Released
PoR: Personal Level of Risk-Tolerance

I think it's logical and normal to have some FUD in this project. Once all components are removed, the FUD will be gone by itself.
Currently buying Dero is like gambling with your money. If you can't afford to lose your money, please stay away and watch. Otherwise, let's FOMO, cross our finger and support the development team so that they can deliver the new crypto tech.

MATTX

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Fuds will never stop even bitcoin and ethereum still has fud after years.
Can't you see why /r/No. One Coin needs censors and mods.
Fudder will keep fudding even after Dero reaches 100$ just like they still call Ethereum a scam https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/eth-ethereum-scam-707237

yss105

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FUD Formula:
FUD = AD + NT + NAeP + CPiT + URP + ~~NSC~~ + PoR

FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
AD: Anonymous Developer
NT: Non-Transparency (e.g. unlocked pre-mined wallet / secretly transferring out the pre-mined balance)
NAeP: Not addressing existing Problem correctly (e.g. uncontrolled block/side-block generation, coin emission is not as per whitepaper.)
CPiT: Communication problem among team member (e.g. key team member(s) suddenly left)
URP: Unreleased Product
NSC: No Source Code Released
PoR: Personal Level of Risk-Tolerance

I think it's logical and normal to have some FUD in this project. Once all components are removed, the FUD will be gone by itself.
Currently buying Dero is like gambling with your money. If you can't afford to lose your money, please stay away and watch. Otherwise, let's FOMO, cross our finger and support the development team so that they can deliver the new crypto tech.

MATTX

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Quote from: mroctopus on July 30, 2018, 02:21:38 AM

Quote from: MATTX on July 30, 2018, 12:34:13 AM

Quote from: Oranium80 on July 29, 2018, 02:31:11 PM

Now what ??!!!!! all you Fud makers, trash talking that had no faith dumped all you coins and gave us the smart ones a wonderful chance to grab some more Dero at a price you can only find on Black Friday, so thank you all for not having the faith in this project and selling all your coins, Dero is and was a legit project from day one.
now why all the fud making for such a small coin that not a lot of people know about and why so many attacks from all over ? maybe something is making them uncertain about their future due to being threatened by Dero, Captain and his Vision ? maybe this will be in the top 10 coins in the future ? think about it. monero started just like that, fud and lots of hate but in the end that disappeared just as all the fud of Dero will as time goes by.

Dont be Fooled by FUD is the lesson we should all learn.

As you say we know Dero is legit from day one. Source of this FUD is probably those who are threatened by Dero, Captain and his Vision. Wishing dero to be in top 10 as there is no native blockchain project working on cryptonote privacy and smart contracts. DERO = Monero + Ethereum. Monero part is completed. it is very huge news now source is open for everyone after external developers review.
Best of luck to dero team.

please give credit to bitcoin as well.
e.g. DERO = Bitcoin x ByteCoin x Monero x Ethereum etc Grin

Credit goes to DERO = Bitcoin x ByteCoin x Monero x Ethereum etc Grin

krypt0id

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I forgot... Do you see my glasses anywhere?
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I guessed wheel of fortune 3 nights in a row!!

krypt0id

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I forgot... Do you see my glasses anywhere?

krypt0id

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Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 28, 2018, 10:50:02 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 28, 2018, 06:38:37 PM

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 28, 2018, 10:34:38 AM

Captain is online now and is CAN provide unsigned key-images to prove balance but refuses to and is planning on locking this thread and ban people who ask in their channels (me included) and only keep those who repeat after him

Proof of the bolded?

Proof that he can: CryptoNote

He refuses: he just simply stops answering for days

I lost a lollipop in a storm drain. I feel Jimmy Carter had something to do with it. I'm not trying to jump to conclusions, though. Do you know the muffin man?

mroctopus

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Quote from: MATTX on July 30, 2018, 12:34:13 AM

Quote from: Oranium80 on July 29, 2018, 02:31:11 PM

Now what ??!!!!! all you Fud makers, trash talking that had no faith dumped all you coins and gave us the smart ones a wonderful chance to grab some more Dero at a price you can only find on Black Friday, so thank you all for not having the faith in this project and selling all your coins, Dero is and was a legit project from day one.
now why all the fud making for such a small coin that not a lot of people know about and why so many attacks from all over ? maybe something is making them uncertain about their future due to being threatened by Dero, Captain and his Vision ? maybe this will be in the top 10 coins in the future ? think about it. monero started just like that, fud and lots of hate but in the end that disappeared just as all the fud of Dero will as time goes by.

Dont be Fooled by FUD is the lesson we should all learn.

As you say we know Dero is legit from day one. Source of this FUD is probably those who are threatened by Dero, Captain and his Vision. Wishing dero to be in top 10 as there is no native blockchain project working on cryptonote privacy and smart contracts. DERO = Monero + Ethereum. Monero part is completed. it is very huge news now source is open for everyone after external developers review.
Best of luck to dero team.

please give credit to bitcoin as well.
e.g. DERO = Bitcoin x ByteCoin x Monero x Ethereum etc Grin

MATTX

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Quote from: Oranium80 on July 29, 2018, 02:31:11 PM

Now what ??!!!!! all you Fud makers, trash talking that had no faith dumped all you coins and gave us the smart ones a wonderful chance to grab some more Dero at a price you can only find on Black Friday, so thank you all for not having the faith in this project and selling all your coins, Dero is and was a legit project from day one.
now why all the fud making for such a small coin that not a lot of people know about and why so many attacks from all over ? maybe something is making them uncertain about their future due to being threatened by Dero, Captain and his Vision ? maybe this will be in the top 10 coins in the future ? think about it. monero started just like that, fud and lots of hate but in the end that disappeared just as all the fud of Dero will as time goes by.

Dont be Fooled by FUD is the lesson we should all learn.

As you say we know Dero is legit from day one. Source of this FUD is probably those who are threatened by Dero, Captain and his Vision. Wishing dero to be in top 10 as there is no native blockchain project working on cryptonote privacy and smart contracts. DERO = Monero + Ethereum. Monero part is completed. it is very huge news now source is open for everyone after external developers review.
Best of luck to dero team.

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

https://github.com/deroproject/derosuite

Oranium80

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Now what ??!!!!! all you Fud makers, trash talking that had no faith dumped all you coins and gave us the smart ones a wonderful chance to grab some more Dero at a price you can only find on Black Friday, so thank you all for not having the faith in this project and selling all your coins, Dero is and was a legit project from day one.
now why all the fud making for such a small coin that not a lot of people know about and why so many attacks from all over ? maybe something is making them uncertain about their future due to being threatened by Dero, Captain and his Vision ? maybe this will be in the top 10 coins in the future ? think about it. monero started just like that, fud and lots of hate but in the end that disappeared just as all the fud of Dero will as time goes by.

Dont be Fooled by FUD is the lesson we should all learn.

skyatbtf

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Hello Guys,

When FUD comes around us these days, espeicically those crazy insane people tried using every dirty methond to attack the project. Now what happend?

DONE:
1. 20th July, Dero soucre code provides to external devleoper for the purpose of reviewing (ask develpers don't spread it out)

2. 23rd July - 25th July, source code leaked that some of the devlepoers don't follow the contract.

3. 29th July - Dero source code officialy provides to public.

TO DO:
4. GUI wallet will come at early August.

5. Smart contract will be delivered at Q4.

6. Foundation will be established soon.

Where are those dirty FUDer? Buy Dero at low price?

MagicSmoker

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Quote from: PAMPT on July 29, 2018, 07:52:47 AM

There were many dirty taints on this, not only guys attitude and his unwillingness to cooperate with automated scam hunting module (ASHM) running across the forum like a fucking sheriff whom I authorized to conduct justice,

CaptDero agreed to keep this ANN thread open, so either you aren't paying attention or you are selectively quoting to push an agenda. I'm all for rational skepticism, but don't have much interest in those with an axe to grind.

Also, I've never heard of "automated scam hunting module"; source?

scott d

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Missing part

http://i63.tinypic.com/2znzo5i.png

Quote from: PAMPT on July 29, 2018, 07:52:47 AM

Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 28, 2018, 10:34:38 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 28, 2018, 08:47:33 AM

Quote from: yss105 on July 27, 2018, 11:36:24 PM

Hi, all. I saw the posting regarding pre-mined balance on the ANN page #1.
First, I am here not to create FUD or anything.
I just tried to generate the way Captain took the screenshot. That screenshot doesn't show any SPENT balance on the pre-mined wallet. The actual balance could be as it is shown or it could be "0" or anything in between. Anyone with their own wallet (which is spent before) can try to generate both "Full Wallet" and "Watch-able View Key Only wallet"; and compare the result.

Please check the following screenshot for my generated wallets:

https://i.imgur.com/MhWEFJ2.jpg

Transparency is the key for any coin to success. Many with FUD will come here to refute any technological development if the development team is not transparent.

Therefore, my suggestion to this problem is:
1. Send some amount of Dero to other wallet from the pre-mined wallet. The amount doesn't matter. It can be 1 Dero or 0.01 Dero. (you're welcome to use my address at dERonmJchVsaVD6mMxGPbeFmfwkQpdj8vGtfCxqv1xzrNHtw874QyAeEqUsN3k7sTW2ifpASftUQqKr hsavSwMK98PThnxYbXZ)
2. Re-generate wallet using "Full" spent key which shows at least 1 spent transaction.
3. Screenshot and change ANN page #1

FTFY

https://i.imgur.com/MhWEFJ2.jpg

Valid concern that should be addressed.

Captain is online now and is CAN provide unsigned key-images to prove balance but refuses to and is planning on locking this thread and ban people who ask in their channels (me included) and only keep those who repeat after him

https://i.imgur.com/CczaSrb.png

There were many dirty taints on this, not only guys attitude and his unwillingness to cooperate with automated scam hunting module (ASHM) running across the forum like a fucking sheriff whom I authorized to conduct justice,

PAMPT

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Quote from: CryptoJohnSmith on July 28, 2018, 10:34:38 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 28, 2018, 08:47:33 AM

Quote from: yss105 on July 27, 2018, 11:36:24 PM

Hi, all. I saw the posting regarding pre-mined balance on the ANN page #1.
First, I am here not to create FUD or anything.
I just tried to generate the way Captain took the screenshot. That screenshot doesn't show any SPENT balance on the pre-mined wallet. The actual balance could be as it is shown or it could be "0" or anything in between. Anyone with their own wallet (which is spent before) can try to generate both "Full Wallet" and "Watch-able View Key Only wallet"; and compare the result.

Please check the following screenshot for my generated wallets:

Transparency is the key for any coin to success. Many with FUD will come here to refute any technological development if the development team is not transparent.

Therefore, my suggestion to this problem is:
1. Send some amount of Dero to other wallet from the pre-mined wallet. The amount doesn't matter. It can be 1 Dero or 0.01 Dero. (you're welcome to use my address at dERonmJchVsaVD6mMxGPbeFmfwkQpdj8vGtfCxqv1xzrNHtw874QyAeEqUsN3k7sTW2ifpASftUQqKr hsavSwMK98PThnxYbXZ)
2. Re-generate wallet using "Full" spent key which shows at least 1 spent transaction.
3. Screenshot and change ANN page #1

FTFY

Valid concern that should be addressed.

Captain is online now and is CAN provide unsigned key-images to prove balance but refuses to and is planning on locking this thread and ban people who ask in their channels (me included) and only keep those who repeat after him

There were many dirty taints on this, not only guys attitude and his unwillingness to cooperate with automated scam hunting module (ASHM) running across the forum like a fucking sheriff whom I authorized to conduct justice,

scott d

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evidence? you are really heavy. Nothing constructive, 1000 message of spam and fud . And soon after they were disrpove

Razkor999

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Proof?

whats different about it?

CryptoJohnSmith

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Source code just posted on Github is different from the one received by reviewers, and have the same version number!

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