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Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts - page 44. (Read 123199 times)

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This is an update from the Dero Project team dated July.9/2018.

Hello everyone,

There has been a lot going on with the Dero Project, and we’re very excited to share with you some of what we’ve been up to these last few weeks. There has been a new Dero mainnet upgrade that brings new cutting edge technology to the blockchain, we’ve made great progress starting the Dero Foundation, the Dero GUI wallet is coming, and perhaps as important as anything, the Dero project team have reviewed our methods of communicating with the community.

Dero’s new technology and mainnet upgrade

As many of you already know in detail, and for those who may not, the Dero Project recently upgraded our network to a new mainnet (codenamed: Atlantis). The Dero team are pleased to announce that this upgrade brings dramatically improved security, scalability, reliability, speed, and several firsts in the field of blockchain technology. Thanks to our exceptionally supportive community, and the hard work of our developers, we were able to thoroughly stress test, and debug our new blockchain technology across multiple private and public testnets.

During our testing we were able to effectively push our new blockchain technology up to 75 transactions per second (75 TPS) while utilizing the full feature set (including privacy) of the CryptoNote protocol. One of the two key ways we accomplished a 20,000% (200x) scalability increase over the current implementations of the CryptoNote core was through the use of a new cutting edge blockchain technology that we named “Dero-DAG”. The second key improvement was to the core cryptography itself from the CryptoNote protocol. Dero’s core CryptoNote cryptography runs ~8x faster than the original core, and our bulletproof implementation is operating ~3x faster than the originally proposed version of bulletproofs.

Dero-DAG is a linear proof-of-work based directed acyclic graph (DAG) that brings several very large improvements to current existing blockchain technology. One of the most notable areas of improvement, and one that we never lose focus on, is security. For example, Dero-DAG is (to the best of our knowledge) the only completely decentralized blockchain with true double spend immunity. This key technology has allowed Dero to turn many disadvantages on other networks (like soft forks) into strengths as they now provide additional security to Dero.

A commitment to high quality communication and transparency

Some people say a day in the real world is equivalent to a year in the world of blockchain. Given the massive influx of brilliant minds into this field, the point of blockchain technology in its adoption cycle, and our first wave of substantial regulations of the field, it’s not unreasonable to say that things feel as though they move almost as rapidly as the hyperbole from the first line in this paragraph would suggest.

With the extensive amount of effort our research and development team have put into our new cutting edge blockchain technology it’s like we have our own small version of “a day in the real world is equivalent to a year in the world of Dero”. As such, it can be very difficult to discern what information to provide to the community, and when.

We spent the time to review all of our communication history from day 1, and identified a number of areas where we can and will improve. The entire Dero Project team understands the importance of excellent communication, transparency, and positive community relations. We would like to offer our collective apologies for not realizing recently the scale of our communication issues. It would be reasonable to state that the Dero Project tends to learn from any bugs in the system, and this is no exception. Any communication issues that you may see will be addressed with the same seriousness we would approach other critical problems with.

Moving forward our team will be taking the initiative to reach out to the community to provide significantly more information about the project, development, and we’re going to make our developers generally more available. Having said that, the community is able to start looking forward to Dero developer AMA (ask me anything) style conversations that we will try to schedule somewhat regularly. This should provide the community with a regular, and ongoing opportunity to have their concerns addressed by the team. We also plan to document and post all of the AMA conversations for people to review at their convenience.

We would like to emphasize that this is a small portion of the effort we will be making to improve communication and transparency. If you have any feedback or suggestions for ways to improve communication please feel free to email Serena at [email protected] or Mojo at [email protected]

The Dero Foundation, source code, and developer reveal

As a project with long term goals, the Dero team have initiated the process of forming a foundation that will oversee the governance, and development of the Dero Project. We anticipate that the Dero Foundation will be formed in approximately one month, and with the foundation we can expect to see a Dero developer reveal. The details surrounding the Dero Foundation will be released in a future update.

Currently Dero has three (3) full time developers, of which two (2), including the Dero lead developer, will be revealing their identities with the launch of the Dero Foundation. The Dero Atlantis source code release will happen essentially in conjunction with the launch of the Dero Foundation, and we have already released the Dero core cryptography for audit. When we have more details regarding the audit of Dero’s core cryptography we will inform the community without delay.

Quarter 3 - 2018

Looking towards Dero’s Q3/2018 goals for a moment, we can see the following are listed: GUI wallets, subaddress support, atomic swap, smart contracts testing.

We’re pleased to announce that the Dero GUI wallets should be available by early August, or more likely late July. Additionally, we’ve heavily upgraded subaddress support to shadow address support which we anticipate will be available in Q3/2018 or early Q4/2018. The Dero research and development team are not taking Atomic Swaps off the table. We are however taking some time to review a technology that may prove to be superior that serves the same purpose. When we have more details in this area we will promptly update the community.

Which brings us to smart contract testing. At the time of this update the Dero Virtual Machine, and smart contract testing are still on schedule for Q3/2018. After the first iteration of the Dero GUI wallets are completed we expect to be able to start providing the community with updates related to Dero smart contract and DVM development.

Marketing and a minimum viable product (MVP)

With the advent of Dero’s minimum viable product (Atlantis) we feel that it’s an appropriate time to start pursuing marketing, and showcasing Dero’s technology to the world. With that being said, we can’t provide any further details until we finalize everything, but we can say with certainty that it will be a formidable effort.


For more information about the Dero Project, or to speak with the team, please feel free to contact us at any of the following.

[email protected] - Serena Fox, Dero marketing and public relations
[email protected] - The Dero team general email
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When source code and team info?
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Enough with the sig campaign shitposts.

And enough with the hostility.

Since the Atlantis release on June 23, DERO's price is down >40% while network hashrate has plummeted by >90%, and all because of self-inflicted wounds.

Not surprising given that the DERO team made some boneheaded moves during a brutal bear market for crypto as a whole. I'd say there are some valuable lessons to be learned from all of this, except there aren't: if you need an example of why it is bad to lie to your community then you are a sociopath and beyond being helped in the first place.





There were 4 users posting with signatures for the same coin in short succession. Had literally nothing to do with anything you're talking about, Magic. I was just tired of seeing their posts.

If anything your response was far more hostile than me complaining about posts.
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Many coin turn back to cryptonight original for attack problems. And the asic hs now is more differentiated ( DERO, SUMO, ETN, ecc)

And

< price of coin  =>  < neths

Its normal



Enough with the sig campaign shitposts.

And enough with the hostility.

Since the Atlantis release on June 23, DERO's price is down >40% while network hashrate has plummeted by >90%, and all because of self-inflicted wounds.

Not surprising given that the DERO team made some boneheaded moves during a brutal bear market for crypto as a whole. I'd say there are some valuable lessons to be learned from all of this, except there aren't: if you need an example of why it is bad to lie to your community then you are a sociopath and beyond being helped in the first place.




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The price of the Dero coin has caused many miners to leave. After all, the market is in a downturn.
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Enough with the sig campaign shitposts.

And enough with the hostility.

Since the Atlantis release on June 23, DERO's price is down >40% while network hashrate has plummeted by >90%, and all because of self-inflicted wounds.

Not surprising given that the DERO team made some boneheaded moves during a brutal bear market for crypto as a whole. I'd say there are some valuable lessons to be learned from all of this, except there aren't: if you need an example of why it is bad to lie to your community then you are a sociopath and beyond being helped in the first place.



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Now after Atlantis update, how much is the transaction fee?
It was mentioned some time ago that fee would be lower

Since transaction size is significantly lower now with Bulletproofs, a Tx fee can be as low as 0.002 DERO assuming 1-input/1-output with priority=1 Smiley
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Now after Atlantis update, how much is the transaction fee?
It was mentioned some time ago that fee would be lower

I don't know for sure, but in the explorer there are many ones with 0.0045 Dero fee.
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Where is the windows wallet,want to try this platform?

You'll probably want https://git.dero.io/DeroProject/atlantis/src/master/dero_windows_amd64.zip (64 bit).

There are instructions for setting up a wallet at https://forum.dero.io/t/create-backup-restore-dero-wallet-in-one-minute/110

(If you find the sync to be too slow, you can speed it up by putting the file at http://seeds.dero.io/atlantis/atlantisDB/derod_database.db in the "mainnet" folder created by the daemon when you first run it. You'll need to complete the sync by running the daemon after doing so, nonetheless.)
Thanks.
Downloaded,trying,seeems a much promising project.
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After Atlantis DERO TO THE DUUUUUMMPPP!
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Now after Atlantis update, how much is the transaction fee?
It was mentioned some time ago that fee would be lower
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I stumbled across this hilarious website that provides quick stats on coins like market cap, price and volume - http://www.doiownashitcoin.com/ - along with a snarky one-sentence rating. Of course the first one I plugged into it was DERO, which was summarily dismissed as, "This is pure shit" Grin

Trying out a few of the other coins I've mined it gave the following results:

ZEN - HODL that shit
MUSIC - This is pure shit
ITNS - Wtf are you doing with this shitcoin?  Grin
TZC - You made a shit decision on this one
UBQ - To cut to the chase, yes, this shit, but not diarrhea.



"ETN - Not bad"
"BCN - HODL!!!"

Apparently, the page itself is a scam after all...

Pandacoin PND: If this was an actual shit, it would be violent diarrhea
Solarcoin SLR: You made a shit decision on this one
LIVE: Megashit
BNT: Not bad
PRL: If this shitcoin was an actual shit, you would clog your toilet
MANA: It's not Bitcoin, but we're hopeful for the future
LEND: The good news is you could have picked shittier
DERO: Yoooo….this is shit…

Enough with the sig campaign shitposts.
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I stumbled across this hilarious website that provides quick stats on coins like market cap, price and volume - http://www.doiownashitcoin.com/ - along with a snarky one-sentence rating. Of course the first one I plugged into it was DERO, which was summarily dismissed as, "This is pure shit" Grin

Trying out a few of the other coins I've mined it gave the following results:

ZEN - HODL that shit
MUSIC - This is pure shit
ITNS - Wtf are you doing with this shitcoin?  Grin
TZC - You made a shit decision on this one
UBQ - To cut to the chase, yes, this shit, but not diarrhea.



"ETN - Not bad"
"BCN - HODL!!!"

Apparently, the page itself is a scam after all...

Pandacoin PND: If this was an actual shit, it would be violent diarrhea
Solarcoin SLR: You made a shit decision on this one
LIVE: Megashit
BNT: Not bad
PRL: If this shitcoin was an actual shit, you would clog your toilet
MANA: It's not Bitcoin, but we're hopeful for the future
LEND: The good news is you could have picked shittier
DERO: Yoooo….this is shit…
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top  Cool

Hello everyone,
DERO is immune to double-counting bug which affects other CryptoNote coins.
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Hello everyone,
DERO is immune to double-counting bug which affects other CryptoNote coins.
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Hi, any news about DERO fondation? thanks
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It looks like the 3 hour rolling average hashrate reported on cryptunit for DERO has dropped by 50% ever since the ETN fork earlier today.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: good technology - even the best technology - won't save you if you alienate your supporters and flake out on most of your goals, promises and commitments.

You've got your point right, even I may understand the reasons pointed to keep ASIC friendly, but the feeling that I was deceived has not yet passed....

I, too, ended up coming around on the reasoning behind sticking with original Cryptonight, but after thinking on it some more I identified a few other potential problems:

* There are no new CN ASICs for sale - after Monero forked all of the ASIC manufacturers scrapped plans to make additional batches. Consequently there is a finite number of ASICs out there that could be used to secure the network, and by all accounts a good fraction of those have simply been turned off (just a couple weeks ago DERO was flirting with 2GH/s - yes, 2000MH/s; now it is <500MH/s).

* That finite number of ASICs will dwindle over time as they begin to fail, and fail they will since the manufacturers typically expect them to be profitable to operate for just a few months at most; ie, reliability and a long lifespan aren't top design priorities.

* Miners like me with a few CPUs/GPUs have to take a more long-term approach to projects if for no other reason than our hardware wouldn't earn very much if we sold what we mined on a daily or weekly basis. For example, I have all of my CN-optimized hardware mining ITNS because their project intends to do something unique (a distributed, peer-to-peer VPN service that you pay for with crypto), but it is almost never the most profitable CN-variant coin to mine.

That said, I still agree that hidden mining via private FPGAs - and even ASICs - is a potentially serious problem, and that forking every few months to head them off is not, perhaps, as practical of a solution as I once thought it was. That doesn't excuse the haphazard way the DERO team decided to stick with CN, nor the hamfisted way it has dealt with those of us who were deeply disappointed at this abrupt change of face.



You know that this tech is literally the best of its kind around, you know what the potential is for Dero, even if they disappointed you with they way they handled things, and it's not like I wasn't disappointed, but I can easily look past it because I use many things and support many things in life that I don't necessary get along with or agree on everything with the people who made it..  At the end of the day, the tech wins, even if you're currently upset about it and some of the earlier supporters are too, the tech and subsequent success will move on with or without you.  I think people are making way too big of a deal about this because in reality it doesn't change their lives in any way, and Dero is still the best tech around, and was never meant to be some community coin that the community makes all the decision on.
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