Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts - page 45. (Read 123292 times)
July 05, 2018, 02:22:44 PM
It looks like the 3 hour rolling average hashrate reported on cryptunit for DERO has dropped by 50% ever since the ETN fork earlier today.
July 05, 2018, 02:21:27 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: good technology - even the best technology - won't save you if you alienate your supporters and flake out on most of your goals, promises and commitments.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: good technology - even the best technology - won't save you if you alienate your supporters and flake out on most of your goals, promises and commitments.
You've got your point right, even I may understand the reasons pointed to keep ASIC friendly, but the feeling that I was deceived has not yet passed....
I, too, ended up coming around on the reasoning behind sticking with original Cryptonight, but after thinking on it some more I identified a few other potential problems:
* There are no new CN ASICs for sale - after Monero forked all of the ASIC manufacturers scrapped plans to make additional batches. Consequently there is a finite number of ASICs out there that could be used to secure the network, and by all accounts a good fraction of those have simply been turned off (just a couple weeks ago DERO was flirting with 2GH/s - yes, 2000MH/s; now it is <500MH/s).
* That finite number of ASICs will dwindle over time as they begin to fail, and fail they will since the manufacturers typically expect them to be profitable to operate for just a few months at most; ie, reliability and a long lifespan aren't top design priorities.
* Miners like me with a few CPUs/GPUs have to take a more long-term approach to projects if for no other reason than our hardware wouldn't earn very much if we sold what we mined on a daily or weekly basis. For example, I have all of my CN-optimized hardware mining ITNS because their project intends to do something unique (a distributed, peer-to-peer VPN service that you pay for with crypto), but it is almost never the most profitable CN-variant coin to mine.
That said, I still agree that hidden mining via private FPGAs - and even ASICs - is a potentially serious problem, and that forking every few months to head them off is not, perhaps, as practical of a solution as I once thought it was. That doesn't excuse the haphazard way the DERO team decided to stick with CN, nor the hamfisted way it has dealt with those of us who were deeply disappointed at this abrupt change of face.
You know that this tech is literally the best of its kind around, you know what the potential is for Dero, even if they disappointed you with they way they handled things, and it's not like I wasn't disappointed, but I can easily look past it because I use many things and support many things in life that I don't necessary get along with or agree on everything with the people who made it.. At the end of the day, the tech wins, even if you're currently upset about it and some of the earlier supporters are too, the tech and subsequent success will move on with or without you. I think people are making way too big of a deal about this because in reality it doesn't change their lives in any way, and Dero is still the best tech around, and was never meant to be some community coin that the community makes all the decision on.
July 05, 2018, 01:25:41 AM
Price has jumped past Dinastycoin now. Most profitable Cryptonight coin.
TO THE MOON!
TO THE MOON!
July 04, 2018, 05:36:57 PM
Stop responding to Estrange18 - he's just doing a drive-by to spam for his sig campaign.
July 04, 2018, 04:31:26 PM
everything from scratch.
Hi guys ! is this just another Nano fork ? i wanted to look at the code on Github but it almost empty. So what kind of DAG is this ?
July 04, 2018, 03:20:28 PM
Hi guys ! is this just another Nano fork ? i wanted to look at the code on Github but it almost empty. So what kind of DAG is this ?
There's absolutely NOTHING related to NANO. Read the OP.
July 04, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Ah, thanks, I see ... I thought I would need the wallet address too, like in monero, but I guess it must be encoded in this view key.
July 04, 2018, 02:40:18 PM
Hi guys ! is this just another Nano fork ? i wanted to look at the code on Github but it almost empty. So what kind of DAG is this ?
Nano fork ? Since when Nano use Proof-of-Work ?
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The pre-mine wallet View Key : f221cf4f77d11f0061f3e4c9615540cbc2d2d532ac2f08c623d2a72ad0145d702b7e5941737e041 6eebaba30c3c30b517a14db1efa9aa13b119e31c380313603
July 04, 2018, 02:29:25 PM
Has the pre-mine wallet address been posted somewhere? I have looked for, but have not found it.
July 04, 2018, 01:29:06 PM
Hi guys ! is this just another Nano fork ? i wanted to look at the code on Github but it almost empty. So what kind of DAG is this ?
July 04, 2018, 01:13:22 PM
Great news Capt DERO 
Look is very nice
Thanks
Look is very nice Thanks
DERO GUI wallet in development from scratch, will be extremely light and fast:
https://i.imgur.com/7Vngk57.png
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https://i.imgur.com/P3ookgB.png
https://i.imgur.com/7Vngk57.png
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https://i.imgur.com/P3ookgB.png
July 04, 2018, 12:14:14 PM
Look like a Qt wallet, well it will be really fast in that case even on an old Android system 
July 04, 2018, 12:00:56 PM
DERO GUI wallet in development from scratch, will be extremely light and fast:
Wallet looks good, thanks Capt!
July 04, 2018, 11:57:49 AM
Promising if the specifications are real, any bounty?
July 04, 2018, 11:24:41 AM
DERO GUI wallet in development from scratch, will be extremely light and fast:
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July 04, 2018, 11:08:19 AM
Its the dero wallet for Windows ok now?
I want to buy more coins, and pass the ones
I have on exchange to private wallet.
I want to buy more coins, and pass the ones
I have on exchange to private wallet.
Yes, the latest version can be found here (http://seeds.dero.io/alpha/) and it uses a numbered menu based CLI.
Thank you.
July 04, 2018, 10:39:31 AM
As ETN roll back to support ASIC, you have to say DERO's decision is wise.
July 04, 2018, 10:21:55 AM
I stumbled across this hilarious website that provides quick stats on coins like market cap, price and volume - http://www.doiownashitcoin.com/ - along with a snarky one-sentence rating.
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"ETN - Not bad"
"BCN - HODL!!!"
Apparently, the page itself is a scam after all...
When I just tried plugging in BCN myself the rating it gave me was, "That's some solid shit right there," while for ETN it said, "You chose wisely," so treat its ratings as if they were from a fortune cookie (or a Magic 8-ball, which is how the user I found out about this from - R0mi - described it).
In other words, it's just a bit of fun, not a scam.
July 04, 2018, 10:06:42 AM
I stumbled across this hilarious website that provides quick stats on coins like market cap, price and volume - http://www.doiownashitcoin.com/ - along with a snarky one-sentence rating. Of course the first one I plugged into it was DERO, which was summarily dismissed as, "This is pure shit" 
Trying out a few of the other coins I've mined it gave the following results:
ZEN - HODL that shit
MUSIC - This is pure shit
ITNS - Wtf are you doing with this shitcoin?
TZC - You made a shit decision on this one
UBQ - To cut to the chase, yes, this shit, but not diarrhea.
Trying out a few of the other coins I've mined it gave the following results:
ZEN - HODL that shit
MUSIC - This is pure shit
ITNS - Wtf are you doing with this shitcoin?
TZC - You made a shit decision on this one
UBQ - To cut to the chase, yes, this shit, but not diarrhea.
"ETN - Not bad"
"BCN - HODL!!!"
Apparently, the page itself is a scam after all...
July 04, 2018, 08:38:52 AM
I stumbled across this hilarious website that provides quick stats on coins like market cap, price and volume - http://www.doiownashitcoin.com/ - along with a snarky one-sentence rating. Of course the first one I plugged into it was DERO, which was summarily dismissed as, "This is pure shit"
Trying out a few of the other coins I've mined it gave the following results:
ZEN - HODL that shit
MUSIC - This is pure shit
ITNS - Wtf are you doing with this shitcoin?
TZC - You made a shit decision on this one
UBQ - To cut to the chase, yes, this shit, but not diarrhea.
Trying out a few of the other coins I've mined it gave the following results:
ZEN - HODL that shit
MUSIC - This is pure shit
ITNS - Wtf are you doing with this shitcoin?
TZC - You made a shit decision on this one
UBQ - To cut to the chase, yes, this shit, but not diarrhea.
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