Topic: [ANN] DigitalNote |XDN| - ICCO Announce - NEWS - page 157. (Read 450276 times)

Bonus received!  Thanks that was fun!

Just a note to say that the bonus for the july hashrate rally was received (thanks dNote!) and all miners' bonus have now been paid. Interestingly, I had to decrease mixin from 3 as some large denominations did not have enough outputs on the blockchain to mix with (going by what can throw such an exception in the code).

Very nice, as i said DigitalNote services Age is on the way 

There were some "1" outputs when there was a duck->dark time, so XDN blockchain had a periods of "1" output. Although 100 + 50 with 2 outputs is an "ideal" variant, IMO.

Agree with your BTW, @smooth. Any way i am not going to conflict with someone, just answering questions, no anger here.

DigitalNote is leading the vote at https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

Doesn't BBR do something like that?

EDIT: I just looked. They do quantize, without dust. But they do it to five digits after the decimal, which currently makes 7 outputs (will be 6 once the rewards drop to <10). That's pretty dumb. If you are going to quantize, at least quantize to a small number of outputs.

About the block reward's effect on coinbase tx size, for the next CN fork, it's possible to get the best of both worlds: a "guiding" smooth emission curve, but with the actual rewards quantized. The "less smooth" effect should not matter. The block reward penalty would still apply, but it too might be quantized (on the upside, I guess). I believe the XDN one isn't quantized anyway, and I've not seen it happen much recently so it's unclear it matters much.

For non coinbase txes, I think XDN's best off for two reasons: because it did not have the period of mining with dusty pool payouts, so payments don't spend old dust; and because a ducknote is worth very little so pretty much all amounts chosen by a person (as oipposed to automatically calculated) are above the dust level anyway.

Last, block time could be adaptive, with a similar algorithm to difficulty, but based on number and size of transactions. Given a quantized block reward, smoothly varying targets should not cause block rewards to go dusty as they adapt to keep the emission curve close to the ideal.

Would need studying to make sure those can't get gamed by large hash miners though.

I'm curious why you didn't just make it 100 or 200 which would have been even smaller (one output), about half the size instead of 150 (two outputs).

BTW, I don't see the point of rehashing a bunch of bickering from February, clearly everyone has moved on and continued development since then. If trolls are digging that stuff up to create conflict, it would probably be better to just ignore them.

dnote , you can find all quotes in their respective thread pages if you click on the name date lines provided above each quote ;
anyway , the list-rehash of your quotes likely comes from this thread , a long pointless one : its mostly under post #56 below the black pics
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12018686

I would not mind , let's move on for the better

Hello dNote,

Look what fluffy_troll a trollero dev is talking about you.

I think is disgusting trolleros devs makes such comments about another dev.




Of course there's speculation. But there is also actual use.

<-Actual use? Look at XMR blocks and transactions count, i can see lots of "empty" blocks here http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks


How do you suppose you'll have a usable cryptocurrency that is actually used, and yet not have an ever-growing blockchain? What a silly comment, it really shows the desperation of this trolling.

<-Sorry, i may said it in the way you didn`t get me. I mean № of blocks (more than 500 000 after just one year), big size of blockchain, lots of "dust" there, with "bad" outputs.


Runs just fine on a Raspberry Pi 1 with 256mb RAM, so I guess he must be talking about running it on a 486 DX2 66.

<- Read previous statement.


Chosen by...thankful_for_today! And here I thought you were hailing him as an incredible human being?

<- So you can change everything if you want and can.


Is duck dark digital dontcareNote really trying to claim that their transactions are significantly smaller?

<- Yes, for sure, XDN DigitalNote (duck, Dark) transactions are significantly smaller, not only transactions, but all "mixing process" is much more efficient, avoiding dust. Let me show you:

DigitalNote "generation" transaction has no dust and very small and good for mixing and SMALLEST CryptoNote transaction, because of outputs structure (only 2 outputs with static block reward and no dust, because of halvings. 150 block reward= 100and 50). DigitalNote "generation" transaction size = 130 bytes (i take min. nowdays value!), and average XDN "empty" block = 174 bytes.
http://chainradar.com/xdn/block/59e82fb50a8690ce37c3ee3887671894fe96c5b53dfdc1fbbd2b8e32c8d9416c
http://chainradar.com/xdn/blocks

Monero XMR average generation transaction consist of min. 4 outputs with dust now and lots of XMR blockchain transaction outputs consists lots of "dust", bad for mixing, bad for blockchain size.
Average XMR "generation" transaction size = 209 bytes (i take min. nowdays value!) and average "empty" block = 253 bytes.
http://chainradar.com/xmr/block/3ce1606a4741d65f8c6cf9fa879b74c7af0c955912adf2457ca55b121a8b4f1c

So lets compare. Lower values are better.

                                                DigitalNote XDN            vs           Monero XMR transaction and block size.
Generation tranaction size                   130                     vs                                    209            <- XDN wins >60% over XMR here
"Empty" block size                               174                     vs                                    253         



0.001 XMR per kilobyte (most transactions are 1kb-2kb), so that's about $0.0000056 per transaction. Gosh. So expensive.

<- ok


Wrong. There are several GUIs: https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

<- Show me native cross platform (Linux, OsX, Windows) GUI that i can build myself? I can`t find any open-source Monero GUI with described specifications, and only with this specifications there is a need in this GUI.

As opposed to dNote, which has the "totally right" way of development, no? If that's the case, then why have they attracted NO other contributors?

https://github.com/xdn-project/digitalnote/graphs/contributors vs. https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/graphs/contributors
<- First, thank you, xdn-project repo is new, second and main one -  you, guys, have much a bigger mouths and time to spend on shouting.

Looks like I've got to rehash some of our research bulletins. Let's do this one:

MRL-0003: Monero is Not That Mysterious
<- Looks like too many words and much less features and important improvements.

We all know how negatively to violently biased some Monero pushers and
trolls are acting out against XDN as seen on a trollbox and in online threads .

Let's always overlook the pointlessness of losing time and energy on quarrels
that will only delay our concentration and elaborations of details which truly
benefit our community and this crypto currency project as a whole . Anyone
who compares , by feature or comparative trial , will find enough incentive to
go either one way or another with support or investment . Intellectual cockfights
might be funny to follow for a while , no doubt about that , gossip is entertainment .

Personally , I believe in the growing opportunities or features XDN offers and delivers —
among other projects — XDN is one of my favourite projects supported ; posh love privacy . 

Can you please give me a link to that and i will answer directly. Thank you.

Offtopic, but for the record: 0.01 monero per kB. Typo, I guess.
(It used to be less, but had to be bumped because blockchain spammers too advantage)

Hello dNote,

Look what fluffy_troll a trollero dev is talking about you.

I think is disgusting trolleros devs makes such comments about another dev.

I happened to stumble upon a unique vision — based upon pristine reasoning — which could very likely give XDN an abnormally huge push //
I will give it more thought , and however , my intuition tells me to wait for all favourable circumstances to fall into place :