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utahjohn

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Quote from: crazyivan on November 22, 2015, 03:19:47 AM

Quote from: utahjohn on November 21, 2015, 07:37:06 PM

I simply ask that those who believe in the foundation do donate to the better of all DMD holders.

We have had several donation based campaigns. When have you donated a single DMD so far? It s interesting you ask other people to donate without being part of any of these campaigns yourself.

Anyway, I m not trying to pick a fight with you, you have your reasons for your limited involvement in DMD development and funding. However, it s extremely unreal to expect our community to raise 30 BTC via donations.

Again, after explaining the entire process where by selling these addresses we get funding for DMD development, the buyer gets increased staking rate and there will be no effect on DMD coin rollout, I ask all of you, what is the negative aftereffect of this campaign? Everyone wins. Even holders who do not want to participate and buy these addresses win cause they ll get DMD development for free. Why would any of you not want that?

Also, Utahjohn, how can you compare this to Hitler tactics when being part of this is optional while benefits from this are guaranteed. Who s forcing you or anyone else to be part of it? Since you do hold almost 5k DMD, why would you want them to be worth less without futher DMD wallet and services development?

I m simply having hard time to understand why some people intentionally try to sabotage receiving free benefits?

After hearing arguments for and against I will say go ahead and do this campaign but I wish to see tagged (named) accounting of the founders and team members so this can be verified with chainz blockchain explorer which is extremely nice at finding linked addresses

Leaking information without full detail is not a nice thing as u can see from the arguments that happen. Like I said I would like to see roadmap for DMD released with full explanation of each idea. Let the community decide what is acceptable.

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Quote from: utahjohn on November 21, 2015, 07:37:06 PM

I simply ask that those who believe in the foundation do donate to the better of all DMD holders.

We have had several donation based campaigns. When have you donated a single DMD so far? It s interesting you ask other people to donate without being part of any of these campaigns yourself.

Anyway, I m not trying to pick a fight with you, you have your reasons for your limited involvement in DMD development and funding. However, it s extremely unreal to expect our community to raise 30 BTC via donations.

Again, after explaining the entire process where by selling these addresses we get funding for DMD development, the buyer gets increased staking rate and there will be no effect on DMD coin rollout, I ask all of you, what is the negative aftereffect of this campaign? Everyone wins. Even holders who do not want to participate and buy these addresses win cause they ll get DMD development for free. Why would any of you not want that?

Also, Utahjohn, how can you compare this to Hitler tactics when being part of this is optional while benefits from this are guaranteed. Who s forcing you or anyone else to be part of it? Since you do hold almost 5k DMD, why would you want them to be worth less without futher DMD wallet and services development?

I m simply having hard time to understand why some people intentionally try to sabotage receiving free benefits?

cryptonit

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@alex @miningfox
thx again for creation of http://bit.diamonds/ in japanese language http://bit.diamonds/index-jp.html

有難う御座います

do we have some other language skill in the community who can support and provide a translation

we have a few big languages still missing

french
spain
portoguise
arabic
hindi

cryptonit

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DMD Multipool / DMD Cloudmining update:

half way trough with server migration its close to 04:00 in morning
we will continue tommorrow after some sleep

as announced before any mining done is not lost just payout delayed
until we start the service scripts on new server again

utahjohn

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I simply ask that those who believe in the foundation do donate to the better of all DMD holders.

utahjohn

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Quote from: popshot on November 21, 2015, 06:51:58 PM

Quote from: utahjohn on November 21, 2015, 06:19:55 PM

The dev team simply needs to propose ideas and see what the community will support thru contributions. the hitler like demands are not what I like to see. community supported ideas are

As many of u know I am NOT a dev team member but a large holder and supporter of DMD. I want to see it grow

I tithe to my church, what is the difference ...
(Independent Baptist Fundamentalist)

In essence what you are asking for (30 BTC) is essentially a donation with no promise of reward if there are no DMD to be included with the purchase price of a legendary address. In addition "legendary" is not something to be purchased, you who have BOUGHT your way into status are not legendary, only those who have been with DMD from the beginning are legendary

Please... all your points are invalid.

We all know, and you in particular, a noble Diamond community member, who did not contribute to any of the PR campaigns is that contribution based model does not work for the kind of work that's required. It took months to gather enough for one press release, after which every single coin holder benefited.
None of this is Hitler like it's an open forum where every workable idea is listened to. And of course thanks for clarifying you are not a dev team member, you should be happy then, you have a right to participate in the auction unlike the rest of the sad lot.

Whatever you like to call it it is what it is, an auction for addresses that come with perks, no point in playing about semantics.

Thank you for the kind response. I have always respeced u as forum operator. I simply disagree with a enriched reward address . This can be defeated thru a mod to new wallet which will fork blockchain.

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Big thanks to miningfox for providing this translation.

Great job! Cheesy

Japanese translation:

popshot

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Quote from: utahjohn on November 21, 2015, 06:19:55 PM

The dev team simply needs to propose ideas and see what the community will support thru contributions. the hitler like demands are not what I like to see. community supported ideas are

As many of u know I am NOT a dev team member but a large holder and supporter of DMD. I want to see it grow

I tithe to my church, what is the difference ...
(Independent Baptist Fundamentalist)

In essence what you are asking for (30 BTC) is essentially a donation with no promise of reward if there are no DMD to be included with the purchase price of a legendary address. In addition "legendary" is not something to be purchased, you who have BOUGHT your way into status are not legendary, only those who have been with DMD from the beginning are legendary

Please... all your points are invalid.

We all know, and you in particular, a noble Diamond community member, who did not contribute to any of the PR campaigns is that contribution based model does not work for the kind of work that's required. It took months to gather enough for one press release, after which every single coin holder benefited.
None of this is Hitler like it's an open forum where every workable idea is listened to. And of course thanks for clarifying you are not a dev team member, you should be happy then, you have a right to participate in the auction unlike the rest of the sad lot.

Whatever you like to call it it is what it is, an auction for addresses that come with perks, no point in playing about semantics.

utahjohn

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The dev team simply needs to propose ideas and see what the community will support thru contributions. the hitler like demands are not what I like to see. community supported ideas are

As many of u know I am NOT a dev team member but a large holder and supporter of DMD. I want to see it grow

I tithe to my church, what is the difference ...
(Independent Baptist Fundamentalist)

In essence what you are asking for (30 BTC) is essentially a donation with no promise of reward if there are no DMD to be included with the purchase price of a legendary address. In addition "legendary" is not something to be purchased, you who have BOUGHT your way into status are not legendary, only those who have been with DMD from the beginning are legendary

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Quote from: utahjohn on November 21, 2015, 05:45:13 PM

Quote from: RaginglikeaBoss on November 20, 2015, 03:52:39 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on November 20, 2015, 03:25:49 AM

People, we had this conversation this time last year when some people, led by Utahjohn, said that the current reactor was shit, that it was going to destroy the coin, that it was unfair and that the dev team s going to scam everyone. Now, one year after that, show me ONE person who became part of this reactor and lost money. Who was scammed? Who failed to receive a SINGLE payout? Ha? Every single person who joined the reactor has been paid on time and profited from this venture.

This team s been behind DMD Diamond for almost 2.5 years. During this time, DMD has grown from a small coin, obtainable for pennies, to one of the largest PoS coins when comparing market cap. This took months of hard work and investments from our side. More importantly, we have shown our word means something and NO person from the community has ever been scammed.

In 2016, we re about to introduce a new roadmap with a lot of interesting elements. This roadmap requires funding and adding these reactors is an excellent opportunity to fund this road map and at the same time help people who buy them make extra money.

As Cryptonit stated, NO member of the dev or core team will be allowed to get one of these reactor address, even though I would personally like to have one. But, rules are rules and we will follow them as always. Again, let me be crystal clear. We could have introduced this for selected group only but we re INTENTIONALLY putting aside our personal financial benefits in order to help DMD grow and in order for all of us to benefit from that growth.

That being said, I can understand part of the community cannot afford to buy the entire reactor address. So, team up. What is the problem with this?

The entire point of this post is to explain to people what great opportunity we have in front of us. We, the dev team, are NOT going to give up on Diamond so let us all make this joint effort to make DMD the best PoS coin there is. Instead of saying what cannot be done let us focus on what can we all do to make it happen. We re all DMD Diamond community and I consider lots of you here not only as members of DMD community but also as my friends. So, let us join our efforts and help DMD Diamond grow cause this what separated great crypto from the average one.

*Sigh* welcome to the new version of Masternodes. Even on the Diamond website DMD payouts to shareholders have not reached ROI on aggregate.

Reactors were a terrible idea to begin with am quite frankly I find it repulsive that 10, oh no wait 8! Eight slots are being sold for a minimum of 3 BTC with no DMD.

To even use the 2x 3000 DMD reactor *legendary pro-status* address you're looking at ~8.31 BTC at the current market.

But clearly we need to pay their rent and bar tabs by buying "reactor addresses," which could be changed whenever the dev team feels fit. EXACTLY, like the implementation of reactors in the first place. Six shills don't count as support.

What is to prevent those in the know from using alias to buy such legendary addresses. we all know this is simple enough to hide behind an alias ...

How about all those against this idea put forward another idea on how to generate development funds??

You can argue until your blue in the face but until you put forward other ideas, your arguments are pointless as you are not providing a solution to the problem.

The people who buy these addresses, will not be dumpers, they will be long term investors.
I only got into Diamond 3 months ago and I'm looking at investing in one of these addresses.
I sure as hell would not be dumping any.

utahjohn

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Quote from: RaginglikeaBoss on November 20, 2015, 03:52:39 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on November 20, 2015, 03:25:49 AM

People, we had this conversation this time last year when some people, led by Utahjohn, said that the current reactor was shit, that it was going to destroy the coin, that it was unfair and that the dev team s going to scam everyone. Now, one year after that, show me ONE person who became part of this reactor and lost money. Who was scammed? Who failed to receive a SINGLE payout? Ha? Every single person who joined the reactor has been paid on time and profited from this venture.

This team s been behind DMD Diamond for almost 2.5 years. During this time, DMD has grown from a small coin, obtainable for pennies, to one of the largest PoS coins when comparing market cap. This took months of hard work and investments from our side. More importantly, we have shown our word means something and NO person from the community has ever been scammed.

In 2016, we re about to introduce a new roadmap with a lot of interesting elements. This roadmap requires funding and adding these reactors is an excellent opportunity to fund this road map and at the same time help people who buy them make extra money.

As Cryptonit stated, NO member of the dev or core team will be allowed to get one of these reactor address, even though I would personally like to have one. But, rules are rules and we will follow them as always. Again, let me be crystal clear. We could have introduced this for selected group only but we re INTENTIONALLY putting aside our personal financial benefits in order to help DMD grow and in order for all of us to benefit from that growth.

That being said, I can understand part of the community cannot afford to buy the entire reactor address. So, team up. What is the problem with this?

The entire point of this post is to explain to people what great opportunity we have in front of us. We, the dev team, are NOT going to give up on Diamond so let us all make this joint effort to make DMD the best PoS coin there is. Instead of saying what cannot be done let us focus on what can we all do to make it happen. We re all DMD Diamond community and I consider lots of you here not only as members of DMD community but also as my friends. So, let us join our efforts and help DMD Diamond grow cause this what separated great crypto from the average one.

*Sigh* welcome to the new version of Masternodes. Even on the Diamond website DMD payouts to shareholders have not reached ROI on aggregate.

Reactors were a terrible idea to begin with am quite frankly I find it repulsive that 10, oh no wait 8! Eight slots are being sold for a minimum of 3 BTC with no DMD.

To even use the 2x 3000 DMD reactor *legendary pro-status* address you're looking at ~8.31 BTC at the current market.

But clearly we need to pay their rent and bar tabs by buying "reactor addresses," which could be changed whenever the dev team feels fit. EXACTLY, like the implementation of reactors in the first place. Six shills don't count as support.

What is to prevent those in the know from using alias to buy such legendary addresses. we all know this is simple enough to hide behind an alias ...

If the foundation need support just ask for it directly ...

cryptonit

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DMD Multipool / DMD Cloudmining server will be moved this weekend to a new server

site might be down payouts delayed but any mining on nicehash will be recognized nothing lost

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Quote from: hallared on November 21, 2015, 10:49:52 AM

Regarding this reactor idea for funding future DMD projects. Although I know Cryptonit is a bit impatient and a real "doer", I think it would be a good idea to first present the development goals/roadmap for 2016 together with estimated costs. In my opinion, it must first be clear what kind of projects are going to be funded before the selling/auctioning of these special reactor addresses starts.

It would also be nice to know who is in the DMD Foundation/Core team at the moment. It has been written that the team has been extended to I think six people, but nowhere it seems to be specified who the current members are.

I agree with this, let's see the roadmap first so we can atleast get an idea for what's ahead.

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Regarding this reactor idea for funding future DMD projects. Although I know Cryptonit is a bit impatient and a real "doer", I think it would be a good idea to first present the development goals/roadmap for 2016 together with estimated costs. In my opinion, it must first be clear what kind of projects are going to be funded before the selling/auctioning of these special reactor addresses starts.

It would also be nice to know who is in the DMD Foundation/Core team at the moment. It has been written that the team has been extended to I think six people, but nowhere it seems to be specified who the current members are.

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After arguments of developers I'm not so categorical and refrain than accept for or against.

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Of course folks, the original Reactor idea was good but inherently flawed due to technical limitations at the time. This time with owners holding their own keys, having ultimate control over their money is a major change. New generated coins are well within the limits of the coin rollout plan and in no way negatively affect the network. At the same time the development of the first Reactor was dropped only because of other potentially way more beneficial deal was about to be struck which prohibited the use of the Reactor. Unfortunately, development resources weren't there in big enough capacity to pursue that path.
The sad truth is, in order to develop a product you need to have resources to do so, without it we can all spam forum with our wishes that never come true, and this would not solve anything, we would be still in the same place or lower a year after.

Some people need to get real. The reactors are a good idea and a workable one which could finally give this project needed push.

As always if there are any other workable and high impact solutions to funding further development we are all ears. We're already cooperating with multitude of people from other projects to integrate services and build foundations for wide ranging crypto ecosystem... and even though this is a potential it won't translate into immediate development fund any time soon.

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Quote from: sandpaper on November 19, 2015, 09:12:00 PM

We also need a ton more details. How much were the 2 addresses sold for? What are the transactions for them? Make this transparent please. Are the others up for grabs at the same cost? How many DMD are given with these addresses?

there is nothing sold yet everyone have the chance to claim one of the two first come first server 2 legendary diamond names in the post above

the addresses will be empty without DMD in them

the owner have a once time chance to choose
max 3000 DMD able to stake at x2 of actual network stakerate
or max 15000 DMD able stake at x1.25 of actual network stakerate

as explained multiple times the true value is not the increased stakerate
if u use the 4 BTc and buy DMD now u will need a few years to earn the same with the legendary10 address

the true value is

Quote

its unique
something that nowhere else exist in cryptoworld

the ability to link ur name with a name of legendary diamond of human history

inside the first and biggest diamond/gemstone themed crypto currency on world

once we have access to bitcoin 2.0 abilities (part of the projects funded with the 30 BTC)
this assets will be created there too

10 unique assets where only 1 piece exist on the whole planet

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The Allnatt Diamond

and

The Moussaieff Red Diamond

will be the two legendary diamond names avaiable as first come first served for 4 BTC

the other 8 legendary diamond names will stay hidden
until we launch the website for their auction
for them minimum bid will be 3 BTC

expected timeframe of auction will be december 1st until december 23th

this way u can make urself or a loved one a true unique present this year

the addresses will be empty without DMD in them

the owner have a once time chance to choose
max coin capacity 3000 DMD able to stake without time limit at x2 boost of actual network stakerate
or max coin capacity 15000 DMD able stake without time limit at x1.25 boost of actual network stakerate

its unique
something that nowhere else exist in cryptoworld

the ability to link ur name with the name of legendary diamond of human history

inside the first and biggest diamond/gemstone themed crypto currency on world

once we have access to bitcoin 2.0 abilities (part of the projects funded with the 30 BTC)
this assets will be created there too

10 unique assets where only 1 piece exist on the whole planet

stay tuned for the release of the website that will explain all in more detail

or use the chance to get 2 oth the legendary10 already now for 4 BTC
without going trough the hassle of a 4 weeks auction and the uncertainy how high the price will climb

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Quote from: Buy$Polar on November 20, 2015, 06:03:47 AM

Quote from: cryptonit on November 20, 2015, 05:29:41 AM

india (dont even know if they have a main language)

Official languages: Hindi, English

thx just found out the same

update: researched a bit and hindi would be the main indian language spoken by 400+ million people and as such the 3th biggest language on earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi

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Quote from: cryptonit on November 20, 2015, 05:29:41 AM

india (dont even know if they have a main language)

Official languages: Hindi, English

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