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Topic: [ANN] Ebitz - Unmoderated thread - Confirmed connection with the Opair scam - page 14. (Read 12571 times)

legendary
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YIz, spread all the fud that you want. You only make us stronger. Take time to see our proposal and you will see that we have nothing to do with them. This is my last comment here. I already proved that you were wrong and explain your mistakes.

Ocminer really? Yes two different people can have the same nameservers combinations. There 2550 possible combinations for millions of sites. What you can not do is modify your nameservers.

Bye
legendary
Activity: 2688
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YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btcddev-357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

Here you have the answer:

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Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver Wink. In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.


You don't understand or trying to cover your traces once more, you just confirmed scam yourself. nameservers in cf are unique per cf account :

http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/98142/how-to-change-the-cloudflares-dns-server-address

This means all domains you protect will have the same combo of nameservers out of those 2550 combinations..

Since you registered the old domain with the same account it has the same nameserver combination as the new one..  And your next page will ALSO have the same combo..  Unless you create a new cf account next time Smiley
YIz
hero member
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YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btcddev-357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

Here you have the answer:

Quote
Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver Wink. In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

Millions of websites are using CloudFlare while two "seperate" ICOs on bitcointalk who look absolutely the same use the same nameservers out of "2,550" nameservers? so the odds are 1:2250?  Wink
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btcddev-357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

Here you have the answer:

Quote
Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver Wink. In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.
hero member
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THE ATTENTION THE PROJECT IS SCAM.

BEHIND the OPAIR and EBITZ PROJECT there is one person.

WASSERMAN RETURNED.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
If everything is legit there would be no need for domains by proxy,  anonymous bought accounts at bitcointalk etc..

YIz
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 502
YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btcddev-357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btcddev-357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).
YIz
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 502
YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btcddev-357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btcddev-357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 
YIz
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 502
EBZ OP is also a purchased account, it reminds me deCLOUDs, Opair and oracle scam, may people not invest money on these greedy scammers.   Angry Angry

They have same similarity: OPs have same full contents bullshit to fool people

Not sure how people fall for those scams, before investing people should make sure the person behind the project is known and trusted.
sr. member
Activity: 251
Merit: 250
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There was already an Ebitz unmoderated thread i think, thanks for your opinion in any case
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
Like I said previously, this coin has ALL the red flags a ico scam can probably have, it's idiotic to invest
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 511
EBZ OP is also a purchased account, it reminds me deCLOUDs, Opair and oracle scam, may people not invest money on these greedy scammers.   Angry Angry

They have same similarity: OPs have same full contents bullshit to fool people
legendary
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The fucking wesserman was the people behind ebitz project... If this will happen and I think a lot of the Ebitz supporter will get a heart attack.
Oh my god.... We need another investigation for this.
Interesting thread.

YIz
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 502
Hey guys,

I'm just a worried guy but I have some decent claims regarding this ICO, I'm less active recently so I don't know all the details about this project but I noticed a pretty big similarity between this project and "Opair" which turned out as a scam. not saying it's a scam for sure, but people, open your eyes, many people are not here to change the world, but mostly their bank balances.

The first similarity, the frontend website. It's absolutely the same, with a few photos and text changed, but everyone who have visited the Opair frontend website will notice a huge similarity.
The second thing, the Wordpress ICO script. same as Opair as well. there's no way it's a coincidence.

Third thing, both domains were registered privately. someone doesn't want his identity revealed. I wouldn't put much trust in internet strangers asking for bitcoins.

The fourth thing and probably the best one: THE NAMESERVERS. to those familiar with CloudFlare, each account has nameservers that are static for the account. they have probably hundreds of nameservers with their 10Tbps network, two accounts using the same servers are very unlikely. and to my "suprise" both Opair.co and Ebitz.org domains use the same nameservers. (http://i.imgur.com/HXh9W0E.png). I found this minutes ago and I'm confident both domains are using the same Cloudflare account.

The person behind Opair is likely the person behind Ebitz. look how Opair turned out.

Original Ebitz thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ebitz-237-btc-in-8-days-pos-zero-knowledge-proof-deep-web-1681965
Original Opair thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pre-ann-opair-decentralized-debit-cards-ocaml-new-blockchain-platform-1558596

EDIT: extrabyte is already in panic and sent me a PM to try and contact CF before spreading "FUD". too bad CF keeps customer information secretive.

A little blog post I wrote to those unfamiliar with the Opair scam: https://icobusters.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/the-opair-ebitz-relationship/

BUSTED: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17040029
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