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eschmenk

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Quote from: brokedummy on April 10, 2014, 01:04:58 PM

It's probably ipominer.com?

I don't think so. They don't seem to be switching fast enough to be cherry-picking individual blocks and their total pool rate is only about 1.6 GH/s according to their website. They might be switching in and out of ECC based on diff and price, which would be fair, though. The other thing is that it looks like the cherry-picker started on April 4. Either that, or he used different wallet addresses before. I thought ipominer.com started mining ECC earlier.

ipominer.com might be a good choice for a pool, but I don't think they are the ones screwing everyone else.

The other thing is that I think any multipool (or any pool for that matter) has to pay out to the miners fairly quickly. I don't think pools would hold on to 98% of the coins earned over 4-5 days. Otherwise there is too much risk of accounts getting hacked. I recently started using a multipool that pays out in batches 5-9 hours after the blocks were mined. You don't even have an account to be hacked.

brokedummy

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Quote from: eschmenk on April 10, 2014, 12:36:08 PM

Quote from: hostmaster on April 09, 2014, 11:14:36 PM

well the variation 100K-300K is not big we can make it a true random, but it requires a hard fork, which can cause big problem we have 10 days to go, by the time I have the code ready, most time will be gone so forget it and just live with it if multipools choose only the more profitable blocks to mine (say 200K-300K), then just mine with multipools.

I don't think it's a multipool. As soon as the mined blocks mature, they are being sent to http://explorer.eccoin.cc/address/ERC42c3f7Qq8x4nhVcFA6naF2LWTFeQHnG. Currently, at the top, it says:

Quote

Balance: 625225137.658738 ECC
Transactions in: 497
Received: 638642244.798186 ECC
Transactions out: 12
Sent: 13417107.139448 ECC

That shows that they have kept 98% of what they have mined over the last four days. A multipool would have distributed more of the coins, wouldn't they? Either that, or they would have dumped the coins in order to convert to BTC or whatever they paid their miners.

If it is a multipool, you or someone else should tell everyone which one it is. A miner can't very well sign up with them if they don't know how to do it. But doing that would amount to screwing the conventional pool operators who have been supporting ECC all along. So any way you look at it, it's not fair to someone.

I would recommend changing the payout to a fixed payout of 200,000. There would be no possible way to game that. The coding change would be simple. It wouldn't require much of your time at all. You could have it immediately available. There could still be over one week of fair mining left.

It's probably ipominer.com?

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Quote from: Carlitos714 on April 10, 2014, 12:53:23 PM

Quote from: flubber on April 10, 2014, 11:34:25 AM

someone with adress ELwsb4cq2sX2UdD77acULWiQtGL9vZBN4w have hacked my account on poolest and withdraw about 40000 coins for me.. please stay alert if someone change payout adress to that adress on pools

Same $hit happened to me
EVfEetfkhS95jM9stJX3QEvm8EzD6CEEtP is the address.

I had 150,000
I had 5,000 k payouts, but all the coins were unconfirmed so they were never sent to my account. Switched over to this pool last night.
I just saw all those coin are gone to the address above this morning when I check my miners from school

WTF

The other user reported they had used the same password on other pools. That's understandable since we all join many pools and have to keep track of many passwords. I'm just curious if you had done the same. I'm sorry to hear about the theft.

I've re-enabled two-factor auth as an added layer of security. Sorry to those users who find two-factor annoying.

eschmenk

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Quote from: Jrubensson on April 10, 2014, 05:39:15 AM

Quote from: richardn1987 on April 10, 2014, 05:05:50 AM

Should I mine this?

Of course! In 11 days, it is too late!

Of course, not! Find a coin that's profitable and fair, mine that one, then sell it and buy ECC. Mining ECC isn't fair because someone is cherry-picking the high reward blocks. You will get more ECC if you mine a fair coin and trade than if you mine ECC.

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Quote from: flubber on April 10, 2014, 11:34:25 AM

someone with adress ELwsb4cq2sX2UdD77acULWiQtGL9vZBN4w have hacked my account on poolest and withdraw about 40000 coins for me.. please stay alert if someone change payout adress to that adress on pools

Same $hit happened to me
EVfEetfkhS95jM9stJX3QEvm8EzD6CEEtP is the address.

I had 150,000
I had 5,000 k payouts, but all the coins were unconfirmed so they were never sent to my account. Switched over to this pool last night.
I just saw all those coin are gone to the address above this morning when I check my miners from school

WTF

Guess they didn't take all of it
http://explorer.eccoin.cc/address/EVfEetfkhS95jM9stJX3QEvm8EzD6CEEtP

eschmenk

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Quote from: marseille on April 09, 2014, 11:12:14 PM

all random superblocks use the same scheme, the multipools can jump in if the block payout is high and jump out when it is low. Because the mining is a random process, they are not guaranteed to get the higher paid blocks, but their chances to get it is bigger, as they have big hash power.

I'd just go with multipool, and you can't fight with big hashpower guys anyway.

Exactly! That's why all coins (except those that were abandoned by their developers) switched to a constant block reward. Most miners will be screwed if you don't do that.

It's not necessarily just multipools that would use the exploit. A huge farm could use it, too. It's just a matter of the payout being worth the effort.

eschmenk

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Quote from: hostmaster on April 09, 2014, 11:14:36 PM

well the variation 100K-300K is not big we can make it a true random, but it requires a hard fork, which can cause big problem we have 10 days to go, by the time I have the code ready, most time will be gone so forget it and just live with it if multipools choose only the more profitable blocks to mine (say 200K-300K), then just mine with multipools.

I don't think it's a multipool. As soon as the mined blocks mature, they are being sent to http://explorer.eccoin.cc/address/ERC42c3f7Qq8x4nhVcFA6naF2LWTFeQHnG. Currently, at the top, it says:

Quote

Balance: 625225137.658738 ECC
Transactions in: 497
Received: 638642244.798186 ECC
Transactions out: 12
Sent: 13417107.139448 ECC

That shows that they have kept 98% of what they have mined over the last four days. A multipool would have distributed more of the coins, wouldn't they? Either that, or they would have dumped the coins in order to convert to BTC or whatever they paid their miners.

If it is a multipool, you or someone else should tell everyone which one it is. A miner can't very well sign up with them if they don't know how to do it. But doing that would amount to screwing the conventional pool operators who have been supporting ECC all along. So any way you look at it, it's not fair to someone.

I would recommend changing the payout to a fixed payout of 200,000. There would be no possible way to game that. The coding change would be simple. It wouldn't require much of your time at all. You could have it immediately available. There could still be over one week of fair mining left.

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Quote from: bitcoin carpenter on April 07, 2014, 08:46:38 PM

i sold junk coins to buy ecc the day before it unlisted

This will make you difficult
But this is the only way

hostmaster

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make sure you use different username and pass with each pool, also sql injection is easy with the open source pool scripts.

flubber

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Yes I have talked with pool owner and confirmed it was someone who hacked in with my password and I only used that password on ecc**** besides Poolest, I don't wanna namedrop someone becaouse it was stupid of me to use same password on anohter ecc pool ... I recommend poolest anyway great support

Quote from: takkaros on April 10, 2014, 11:52:49 AM

Quote from: flubber on April 10, 2014, 11:34:25 AM

someone with adress ELwsb4cq2sX2UdD77acULWiQtGL9vZBN4w have hacked my account on poolest and withdraw about 40000 coins for me.. please stay alert if someone change payout adress to that adress on pools

http://explorer.eccoin.cc/address/ELwsb4cq2sX2UdD77acULWiQtGL9vZBN4w

takkaros

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Quote from: flubber on April 10, 2014, 11:34:25 AM

someone with adress ELwsb4cq2sX2UdD77acULWiQtGL9vZBN4w have hacked my account on poolest and withdraw about 40000 coins for me.. please stay alert if someone change payout adress to that adress on pools

http://explorer.eccoin.cc/address/ELwsb4cq2sX2UdD77acULWiQtGL9vZBN4w

takkaros

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Quote from: hostmaster on April 10, 2014, 11:20:39 AM

Quote from: takkaros on April 10, 2014, 11:17:55 AM

Any progress with the multipool ? Roll Eyes

still on live stats page.

I know you are doing a fantastic job Wink

That multipool will make a huge difference. Keep it up!

Kergekoin

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1.4 mac wallet with SSL fix? Roll Eyes

flubber

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someone with adress ELwsb4cq2sX2UdD77acULWiQtGL9vZBN4w have hacked my account on poolest and withdraw about 40000 coins for me.. please stay alert if someone change payout adress to that adress on pools

hostmaster

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Quote from: takkaros on April 10, 2014, 11:17:55 AM

Any progress with the multipool ? Roll Eyes

still on live stats page.

takkaros

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Any progress with the multipool ? Roll Eyes

hostmaster

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Enjoy 5.000 ECC giveaway, external site: http://ecoiner.org/ecc/facebook-giveaway-2-000-000-ecc-win-1602/

hostmaster

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Let's spread hash power all pools equally.

flubber

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Quote from: takkaros on April 10, 2014, 08:35:53 AM

Quote from: ibfragalot on April 10, 2014, 07:54:30 AM

Yes ECCHOUSE, where are our coins?

AutoPay stopped, and we can't manual transfer?

Quote from: why123 on April 10, 2014, 07:37:42 AM

what problem with the pool http://ecchouse.com/ ?
The autopay is stopped after the UI changed,and now I have 310K ECC in the pool and there is no way to do manual transfer

I am sure it will be sorted out. I wouldn't worry about it, not so soon. You should set an autopayout amount so you will be safe in the future. I set mine to withdraw about every 3-4 hours by calculating how much ECC/hour I was producing. For example: if you mine 1000ECC per hour, set it to withdraw at 3000.. Then you wouldn't have to worry much if anything went wrong.

Problem is autopay don't work there so the coins don't get transfered over the night, they just got build up to huge amount ...

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Quote from: ibfragalot on April 10, 2014, 07:54:30 AM

Yes ECCHOUSE, where are our coins?

AutoPay stopped, and we can't manual transfer?

Quote from: why123 on April 10, 2014, 07:37:42 AM

what problem with the pool http://ecchouse.com/ ?
The autopay is stopped after the UI changed,and now I have 310K ECC in the pool and there is no way to do manual transfer

I am sure it will be sorted out. I wouldn't worry about it, not so soon. You should set an autopayout amount so you will be safe in the future. I set mine to withdraw about every 3-4 hours by calculating how much ECC/hour I was producing. For example: if you mine 1000ECC per hour, set it to withdraw at 3000.. Then you wouldn't have to worry much if anything went wrong.

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