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March 17, 2014, 08:56:35 PM
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March 17, 2014, 08:10:53 PM
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Did u use all of your votes ?
Did u use all of your votes ?
March 17, 2014, 08:02:26 PM
Any eta on when its going to be added to CryptoRush?
March 17, 2014, 07:10:42 PM
Don't think multipools will profit the differences on the random blocks here, the differences too small, and jumping in out not worth it.
They were definitely doing it with DOGE. Granted, DOGE rewards could go all the way down to 0, while with ECC the lowest is 33% of the maximum. Keep in mind that it doesn't cost them anything to switch. They just need something else that they think is more profitable to switch to. All they need is a slight reason to do it, and that's enough.Also, it's possible to game KGW in order to cheat. I don't fully understand it, but it involves faking the times when blocks are found somehow. That's why DOGE went to something else to set the difficulty.
But if it's not showing up at ECCHouse, and it looks like it's not, then there probably isn't a problem. That's the problem with randomness. It's so damned random!
@T0TheMoon: Thanks!
March 17, 2014, 06:49:06 PM
Don't think multipools will profit the differences on the random blocks here, the differences too small, and jumping in out not worth it.
March 17, 2014, 06:15:02 PM
Giveaway on reddit! subscribe to the subreddit too!
http://www.reddit.com/r/ECCoin/comments/20o039/giveaway_500_ecc_to_the_first_20_to_post_a_comment/
http://www.reddit.com/r/ECCoin/comments/20o039/giveaway_500_ecc_to_the_first_20_to_post_a_comment/
March 17, 2014, 06:03:20 PM
March 17, 2014, 05:54:39 PM
I saw a working-hard dev, but without a strong community.
It's really hard to go further withou a good community.
It's really hard to go further withou a good community.
March 17, 2014, 05:33:11 PM
PoW:
- Random 100000 - 300000 coins per block for the first 45 days evenly distribution
I think you probably need to make the reward a constant 200000 coins per block and do it quickly. Given the way the net hash keeps jumping around recently, it looks like big hash is jumping in to cherry-pick the high reward blocks. That's the same problem DOGE had and is why they hard forked just now to make their reward constant. It's not fair to those of us who are mining constantly to have someone else come in and cherry-pick the high-reward blocks.
This is the last 20 blocks mined at the ECC - Cloudminers pool. Note how few blocks they have been able to find today that were > 200000 ECC.
Block Validity Finder Time Difficulty Amount Expected Shares Actual Shares Percentage
Totals 1,514,825 1,317,062 86.94
20325 105 left 56337304 17/03 21:43:41 18.60 120,560.00 76,192 3,600 4.72
20321 101 left 56337304 17/03 21:40:41 20.45 116,923.15 83,748 93,032 111.09
20235 15 left 56337304 17/03 20:34:07 18.37 126,882.00 75,256 21,639 28.75
20212 Confirmed 56337304 17/03 20:16:12 21.28 273,355.02 87,182 10,306 11.82
20202 Confirmed 56337304 17/03 20:07:31 20.85 204,824.00 85,392 111,694 130.80
20079 Confirmed 56337304 17/03 18:35:59 15.97 150,222.00 65,433 18,964 28.98
20063 Confirmed vadimka6 17/03 18:21:34 18.88 142,928.00 77,326 37,110 47.99
20030 Confirmed 56337304 17/03 17:55:42 20.16 188,976.00 82,563 34,736 42.07
19948 Confirmed wabigong 17/03 16:52:45 18.30 144,630.00 74,958 57,655 76.92
19893 Confirmed 56337304 17/03 16:08:00 22.85 127,907.00 93,599 35,280 37.69
19853 Confirmed 56337304 17/03 15:39:34 19.76 146,626.04 80,948 59,706 73.76
19451 Confirmed wabigong 17/03 10:30:57 18.37 185,428.10 75,233 132,891 176.64
18706 Confirmed 56337304 17/03 00:57:21 19.92 171,361.00 81,572 88,662 108.69
18612 Confirmed wabigong 16/03 23:49:34 15.04 120,713.01 61,600 75,440 122.47
18542 Confirmed 56337304 16/03 22:51:43 20.29 145,538.01 83,088 98,984 119.13
18439 Confirmed 56337304 16/03 21:36:00 16.92 276,971.03 69,313 79,562 114.79
18358 Confirmed 56337304 16/03 20:36:19 12.82 279,638.00 52,530 118,156 224.93
18248 Confirmed 56337304 16/03 19:08:32 16.33 157,691.00 66,870 50,119 74.95
18203 Confirmed 56337304 16/03 18:33:51 16.79 145,128.02 68,765 148,683 216.22
18049 Confirmed 56337304 16/03 16:34:58 17.89 298,055.01 73,257 40,843 55.75
And yes, even though the reward is supposed to be random, as soon as a block is solved, it's possible to calculate the reward for the next bock. See "Something is rotten in the state of DOGE mining" for a description of the problem as it occurred with Dogecoins. I would be very surprised if ECC somehow did things differently.
BTW, I shortened someone's ID in the table to make the columns line up better. The table is here, but may change by the time you look at it.
Can someone verify if this is a problem with ECCHouse? They are so large it couldn't be just a matter of luck if it shows up there. I don't have an account with them and they don't provide that information to the public. The average reward for the last 24 hours would be great to know. For ECC - Cloudminers, it was about 157,000, instead of 200,000.
March 17, 2014, 05:27:45 PM
My investors are looking forward to buying decent size stakes in ECC if 'whales' start dumping.
There is a lot of misunderstanding about markets, and of course most people worry about there being too many coins when the real problem is that most do not have enough available.
Anyone with the capital and skill to really promote is not going to bother unless a big stake is available for them to invest.
That is why premines are good, not bad...and large holders are good not bad... and dumps are good not bad, because someone is buying the ones that are sold.
There is a lot of misunderstanding about markets, and of course most people worry about there being too many coins when the real problem is that most do not have enough available.
Anyone with the capital and skill to really promote is not going to bother unless a big stake is available for them to invest.
That is why premines are good, not bad...and large holders are good not bad... and dumps are good not bad, because someone is buying the ones that are sold.
that is correct... if i have btc available i will be buying and i have been mining since day one 24/7
March 17, 2014, 05:19:48 PM
My investors are looking forward to buying decent size stakes in ECC if 'whales' start dumping.
There is a lot of misunderstanding about markets, and of course most people worry about there being too many coins when the real problem is that most do not have enough available.
Anyone with the capital and skill to really promote is not going to bother unless a big stake is available for them to invest.
That is why premines are good, not bad...and large holders are good not bad... and dumps are good not bad, because someone is buying the ones that are sold.
There is a lot of misunderstanding about markets, and of course most people worry about there being too many coins when the real problem is that most do not have enough available.
Anyone with the capital and skill to really promote is not going to bother unless a big stake is available for them to invest.
That is why premines are good, not bad...and large holders are good not bad... and dumps are good not bad, because someone is buying the ones that are sold.
March 17, 2014, 05:12:47 PM
there is also less coin then mint... only 17billion in circulation once mining goes to 1 coin.. rest is from pos....
spread the word and those bigger rigs will get less.. its like that on any coin....
oh and just voted on mintpal.com have you?
spread the word and those bigger rigs will get less.. its like that on any coin....
oh and just voted on mintpal.com have you?
March 17, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
Moderators decided to delete my post for whatever reason, so here it is again. For Pete's sake, if you disagree, state why, don't just randomly delete it. I own this coin and am still mining it, it doesn't mean the concerns magically disappear.
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win."
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win.
"Turning your question around: how would you go about making a mineable coin where the highest hashrates don't get more than lower hashrates? It's the nature of the beast and not coin-specific.
Also, assuming that those with tens of millions will automatically dump isn't necessarily true. Assuming a decent price once ECC gets on some higher volume exchanges, that 25% first year POS interest makes holding a mighty tempting option.
I'd say it's not about some mining more than others, that will always be a given. But 45 days of mining at low difficulty with no halving allows those with more powerful rigs (which there are plenty of people with these) to amass tens of millions. Some already have 40+ million in a week, imagine in 6.5 weeks? Mint Coin offered 20% interest and look at what happened to them once the whales decided to dump their coins when the mining period was over. What do you think is going to happen when the big boys having more ECC coins when compared to Mint decide to dump their coins, which they invariably will.
I'm holding ECC for the short and long term, but just the sheer number of coins in circulation after 45 days is concerning, at least in my opinion.
We need more miners!!!
We need more votes on mintpal!!!
March 17, 2014, 04:48:26 PM
Moderators decided to delete my post for whatever reason, so here it is again. For Pete's sake, if you disagree, state why, don't just randomly delete it. I own this coin and am still mining it, it doesn't mean the concerns magically disappear.
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win."
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win.
"Turning your question around: how would you go about making a mineable coin where the highest hashrates don't get more than lower hashrates? It's the nature of the beast and not coin-specific.
Also, assuming that those with tens of millions will automatically dump isn't necessarily true. Assuming a decent price once ECC gets on some higher volume exchanges, that 25% first year POS interest makes holding a mighty tempting option.
I'd say it's not about some mining more than others, that will always be a given. But 45 days of mining at low difficulty with no halving allows those with more powerful rigs (which there are plenty of people with these) to amass tens of millions. Some already have 40+ million in a week, imagine in 6.5 weeks? Mint Coin offered 20% interest and look at what happened to them once the whales decided to dump their coins when the mining period was over. What do you think is going to happen when the big boys having more ECC coins when compared to Mint decide to dump their coins, which they invariably will.
I'm holding ECC for the short and long term, but just the sheer number of coins in circulation after 45 days is concerning, at least in my opinion.
We need more miners!!!
March 17, 2014, 04:17:51 PM
Moderators decided to delete my post for whatever reason, so here it is again. For Pete's sake, if you disagree, state why, don't just randomly delete it. I own this coin and am still mining it, it doesn't mean the concerns magically disappear.
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win."
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win.
"Turning your question around: how would you go about making a mineable coin where the highest hashrates don't get more than lower hashrates? It's the nature of the beast and not coin-specific.
Also, assuming that those with tens of millions will automatically dump isn't necessarily true. Assuming a decent price once ECC gets on some higher volume exchanges, that 25% first year POS interest makes holding a mighty tempting option.
I'd say it's not about some mining more than others, that will always be a given. But 45 days of mining at low difficulty with no halving allows those with more powerful rigs (which there are plenty of people with these) to amass tens of millions. Some already have 40+ million in a week, imagine in 6.5 weeks? Mint Coin offered 20% interest and look at what happened to them once the whales decided to dump their coins when the mining period was over. What do you think is going to happen when the big boys having more ECC coins when compared to Mint decide to dump their coins, which they invariably will.
I'm holding ECC for the short and long term, but just the sheer number of coins in circulation after 45 days is concerning, at least in my opinion.
March 17, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
I voted again 
March 17, 2014, 03:59:51 PM
Moderators decided to delete my post for whatever reason, so here it is again. For Pete's sake, if you disagree, state why, don't just randomly delete it. I own this coin and am still mining it, it doesn't mean the concerns magically disappear.
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win."
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win.
"Turning your question around: how would you go about making a mineable coin where the highest hashrates don't get more than lower hashrates? It's the nature of the beast and not coin-specific.
Also, assuming that those with tens of millions will automatically dump isn't necessarily true. Assuming a decent price once ECC gets on some higher volume exchanges, that 25% first year POS interest makes holding a mighty tempting option.
Agree!! 25% is very good, keeping all my coins safely in my wallet!
March 17, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
Moderators decided to delete my post for whatever reason, so here it is again. For Pete's sake, if you disagree, state why, don't just randomly delete it. I own this coin and am still mining it, it doesn't mean the concerns magically disappear.
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win."
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win.
"Turning your question around: how would you go about making a mineable coin where the highest hashrates don't get more than lower hashrates? It's the nature of the beast and not coin-specific.
Also, assuming that those with tens of millions will automatically dump isn't necessarily true. Assuming a decent price once ECC gets on some higher volume exchanges, that 25% first year POS interest makes holding a mighty tempting option.
March 17, 2014, 03:32:38 PM
We are not every coin. No need to be hopeless like that.
What are your concerns here? This planet works like this. I mine at home 1 mhs but they mine 20-30 mhs. Some mines even more. But no body is losing here. We actually equally benefiting from cryptos available thanks to computer technology.
But in real life it does not work like that. If you are relatives with boss in a business you can enjoy higher ranks in that business. If you stay close to a dev you enjoy giveaways. like this.
in life, still, it's not ok to take always but you have to give back something. And if you give good things you get back more.(karma) The trick is here those who try to always gets and does not give not long survive or sustain their projects. i think we can agree on that.
What are your concerns here? This planet works like this. I mine at home 1 mhs but they mine 20-30 mhs. Some mines even more. But no body is losing here. We actually equally benefiting from cryptos available thanks to computer technology. But in real life it does not work like that. If you are relatives with boss in a business you can enjoy higher ranks in that business. If you stay close to a dev you enjoy giveaways.
like this.in life, still, it's not ok to take always but you have to give back something. And if you give good things you get back more.(karma) The trick is here those who try to always gets and does not give not long survive or sustain their projects. i think we can agree on that.
March 17, 2014, 03:14:42 PM
Moderators decided to delete my post for whatever reason, so here it is again. For Pete's sake, if you disagree, state why, don't just randomly delete it. I own this coin and am still mining it, it doesn't mean the concerns magically disappear.
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win."
"I admit that this is a concern of mine. We have some posters claiming that have tens of millions of ECC, which is A LOT and I'm sure the whales have a ton more. I'm starting to the think the devs made it too easy to gain large amounts of this coin, which will effectively cause dumps as the whales start pumping and dumping.
It's happened to every coin . . . It's going to happen to this one. The whales always win.
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