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Topic: ⚡[ANN]⚡ ▐░Espers [ESP]░▌▐░PoW/PoS░▌▐░HMQ1725 Algo░▌ ▐░New Features░▌ - page 295. (Read 923924 times)

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Yea i have about 4mil but nothing either, but as it has been said many times before, we need to let the PoS difficulties level out before we have a chance to stake. currently the super wallets with 100's of millions of esp are sucking up all the staking.

SO buy 100 million Smiley
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Yea i have about 4mil but nothing either, but as it has been said many times before, we need to let the PoS difficulties level out before we have a chance to stake. currently the super wallets with 100's of millions of esp are sucking up all the staking.
staking is working well, wallet with 100+ might stake more that 4 mill wallet it is ok, it's not normal when 4kk wallet got more than 100kk can gain (4kk=~$20)
got first stake on fresh wallet btw! go ESP go! Smiley

Distribution doesn't seem to be fair. U need to make high POSers dump, thereby taking out their huge bags and giving them to handicapped guys who are in love with this coin but can't afford to buy more than a few pennies worth of it. Let's clear this town from fat rats with 100 million espers in their wallets, to let average joes buy a little bit of this shit for themselves. Small hodlers should balance out these huge stakers.
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@CryptoCoderz  What's the invite link for Espers Slack channel?

Thanks Smiley

Shoot us your email through PM and we'll send you an invite, Slack is open to anyone who requests to be invited.

Done - thanks.
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BAM
Yea i have about 4mil but nothing either, but as it has been said many times before, we need to let the PoS difficulties level out before we have a chance to stake. currently the super wallets with 100's of millions of esp are sucking up all the staking.
staking is working well, wallet with 100+ might stake more that 4 mill wallet it is ok, it's not normal when 4kk wallet got more than 100kk can gain (4kk=~$20)
got first stake on fresh wallet btw! go ESP go! Smiley

12.000.000 here and also nothing. But yes, pos wallet is taking a huge part of it.

I have almost 14 mil in my wallet and I have yet to get a POS reward.
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Yea i have about 4mil but nothing either, but as it has been said many times before, we need to let the PoS difficulties level out before we have a chance to stake. currently the super wallets with 100's of millions of esp are sucking up all the staking.
staking is working well, wallet with 100+ might stake more that 4 mill wallet it is ok, it's not normal when 4kk wallet got more than 100kk can gain (4kk=~$20)
got first stake on fresh wallet btw! go ESP go! Smiley

12.000.000 here and also nothing. But yes, pos wallet is taking a huge part of it.
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13 million and nothing Angry

Had 500k yesterday on 900mil. Poswallet has probably also a huge weight on staking network.
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SmartHoldem.IO
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Yea i have about 4mil but nothing either, but as it has been said many times before, we need to let the PoS difficulties level out before we have a chance to stake. currently the super wallets with 100's of millions of esp are sucking up all the staking.
staking is working well, wallet with 100+ might stake more that 4 mill wallet it is ok, it's not normal when 4kk wallet got more than 100kk can gain (4kk=~$20)
got first stake on fresh wallet btw! go ESP go! Smiley
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Edit:
@Everyone

Despite the issues that Espers has persevered through and still having small hiccups here and there as we move through the Alpha stage of development we think it would be nice to get more people involved.

What we mean by this is simply: We want more suggestions, requests, events, anything really from the community members.

Let's make Espers fun, not just a place where we all complain about what isn't done yet, things will move forward and progress will always be made as we've shown through numerous updates and continued support of this project.

What do you all think? What would be the best way to make Espers fun again in your eyes? We're open to suggestions.

Let's turn this thing around. For far too long we've all been focused on the negative, every project goes through trials and issues, let's not focus so much on that and look more towards what has already been accomplished and what we can accomplish further.


Trying to add coin on btc38. To find more investors on asian side. Ill check the site when i finish work.
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Yea i have about 4mil but nothing either, but as it has been said many times before, we need to let the PoS difficulties level out before we have a chance to stake. currently the super wallets with 100's of millions of esp are sucking up all the staking.

Your correct, it Will come.
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Yea i have about 4mil but nothing either, but as it has been said many times before, we need to let the PoS difficulties level out before we have a chance to stake. currently the super wallets with 100's of millions of esp are sucking up all the staking.
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I am not at home currently, I am at work. But when I woke up and checked my computer I had found quite a few POW blocks and the miner was no longer showing "Booooos." I had not found a POS block yet but my balance is not even in the top 100 so I'm not too concerned about that yet. I was solo mining and not on any pool so I cannot comment about any pools as of yet. When I get home I will probably try out the pools and everything else.

You shouldn't need that many coins, in the past users with ~2-10 Million ESP would stake several times a day

I have 2 723 718 Espers, but I'm not  nothing earned with PoS:

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Coin Mage
Wow I love the technical discussions in here, I've been missing that in a lot of other coins! I can't say that I understand even 50% of it lol  Cheesy But this kind of public discussions is what true innovation should look like IMO, being a community project that really drives to innovate and not just make the programmers rich. Amazing times coming here, I see!  Cool
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Coderz of the Crypto variety
You mix pow and pos block time at diff calculation, again:

https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1141-L1160

so pos block _can_ increase the pow block difficulty....  Embarrassed



So after looking into this a bit more and thinking about it here's the catch, we need the chain to compare all block times against one another to provide an accurate block rate comparison, so PoW does influence PoS difficulty a little and PoS influences PoW difficulty as raw block rates are used in the retarget method.

Something however that can be done to make PoW and PoS more even and both threads fight fair so to speak is to add a check of PoS blocks in the past X amount of time/blocks vs PoW blocks in the past X amount of time/blocks and skew each threads difficulty depending on how much either thread starts to outweight the other in found blocks. This way the chain would balance out the hybrid selection.

Thank you for pointing this out we never would have thought to do this otherwise, We'll include this difficulty skew in the release of PoS-v3 update that is coming as well and roll everything up into a nice package.

This way there'll definitely be a more even acceptance rate as right now the sheer amount of stakers are making it hard for miners to find PoW blocks despite both systems working smoothly at this point.

You kick major butt elbandi!  Grin



Edit:
@Everyone

Despite the issues that Espers has persevered through and still having small hiccups here and there as we move through the Alpha stage of development we think it would be nice to get more people involved.

What we mean by this is simply: We want more suggestions, requests, events, anything really from the community members.

Let's make Espers fun, not just a place where we all complain about what isn't done yet, things will move forward and progress will always be made as we've shown through numerous updates and continued support of this project.

What do you all think? What would be the best way to make Espers fun again in your eyes? We're open to suggestions.

Let's turn this thing around. For far too long we've all been focused on the negative, every project goes through trials and issues, let's not focus so much on that and look more towards what has already been accomplished and what we can accomplish further.
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Coderz of the Crypto variety
Well, i went to something that actually has a future. The only thing this coin had up untill now (and i been here from the start) was the pretty good profit from mining. But that's gone now. I went from about 2.000.000 a day to what, 200.000 to 300.000? Yeah well, i will come back when (or should i say if?) ESP reaches 40 satoshi. Because that is what u need to get to to be in the other coins league, profit wise. And coins still not mature after 10 hours? Not even 1/3 far... So i need 30 hours now b4 my coins can be used? what's up with that?

EDIT: Judging from what miningalts show i will need to adjust that to maybe 0 to 10.000 esp a day. 3 blocks mined globally last 10 hours or so...

Perhaps we should leave the future to decide what is worth while and what is not. As many people have stated throughout history, "Only time will tell"

EDIT: Removed pointless snide remark





@CryptoCoderz  What's the invite link for Espers Slack channel?

Thanks Smiley

Shoot us your email through PM and we'll send you an invite, Slack is open to anyone who requests to be invited.




You mix pow and pos block time at diff calculation, again:

https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1141-L1160

so pos block _can_ increase the pow block difficulty....  Embarrassed


This time we just did it a different way, see we need to not care if the block is PoW or PoS when determining the block spacing, that way we get the true spacing time. When the system retargets it actually chooses which thread to target seperately as shown further down in the code.

Code:
   // Differentiate PoW/PoS prev block
    [b]const CBlockIndex* BlockVelocityType = GetLastBlockIndex(pindexLast, fProofOfStake);[/b]

[i]..............further down in the code..............[/i]

    TerminalFactor *= TerminalAverage;
    difficultyfactor = TerminalFactor;
    [b]bnOld.SetCompact(BlockVelocityType->nBits);[/b]
    bnNew = bnOld / difficultyfactor;
    bnNew *= 10000;

    if (bnNew > bnTerminalVelocity)
      bnNew = bnTerminalVelocity;

    // LogPrintf("Prior Terminal-Velocity: %08x  %s\n", BlockVelocityType->nBits, bnOld.ToString());
    // LogPrintf("New Terminal-Velocity:  %08x  %s\n", bnNew.GetCompact(), bnNew.ToString());
    return bnNew.GetCompact();

It perhaps isn't the traditional way but this way ensures that ACTUAL block rate is calculated as apposed to separate threads calculating their INDIVIDUAL spacing according to PoW or PoS blocktimes instead of looking at both. Do you kinda get what I'm talking about? I may not be explaining it very well I do apologize. I however really value your input! You're an awesome guy elbandi and you've helped us out a lot Smiley Also, I'll have to look into the statement further, we are humans after all and I can easily make a mistake. Thank you for pointing me to a potential problem.




dead?

I believe your concept of dead is flawed good sir.



You mix pow and pos block time at diff calculation, again:

https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1141-L1160

so pos block _can_ increase the pow block difficulty....  Embarrassed


dat fail relaunch pow after 2 months..  Cheesy
diff @620 when i tested 12 hours ago lol..

hmm, Diff is at 1.5 right now. Don't really know where your pulling your values from there bud.
Also PoW blocks are being found periodically as expected. PoW is working fine, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with a new things called a block explorer?



great pos is going again  Smiley

ferkin yobit:

I'm sorry to say but we've posted numerous time informing users to NEVER BUY FROM YOBIT they are on Espers v1 from 8 months ago and refuse to update, DO NOT buy from them, you are NOT buying Espers.

Please only buy Espers from Exchanges listed on the ANN's OP (Or the first post of this ANN)



it shocks me that people still bother with that exchange, saying that you can make some good trades there its just a shame that half the time you cant withdraw your profit and when you raise a ticket you'd may as well talk to a chimp. use novaexchange its listed on posw too, support theres pretty decent if a little slow sometimes.

yeah, yobit is total trash... I won't trade anything there...

I'm not saying the exchange is one way or the other, I'm just stating please do NOT buy ESP from there.




EDIT: Judging from what miningalts show i will need to adjust that to maybe 0 to 10.000 esp a day. 3 blocks mined globally last 10 hours or so...

The PoW spiked and then came back down, it was to be expected as at first all the blocks were too fast, then too slow, things had to level out. If you check again there are PoW blocks being found periodically now, not just 2 a day. This is day 2 now that we are on the new retarget.
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