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Wow I love the technical discussions in here, I've been missing that in a lot of other coins! I can't say that I understand even 50% of it lol  Cheesy But this kind of public discussions is what true innovation should look like IMO, being a community project that really drives to innovate and not just make the programmers rich. Amazing times coming here, I see!  Cool
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You mix pow and pos block time at diff calculation, again:

https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1141-L1160

so pos block _can_ increase the pow block difficulty....  Embarrassed



So after looking into this a bit more and thinking about it here's the catch, we need the chain to compare all block times against one another to provide an accurate block rate comparison, so PoW does influence PoS difficulty a little and PoS influences PoW difficulty as raw block rates are used in the retarget method.

Something however that can be done to make PoW and PoS more even and both threads fight fair so to speak is to add a check of PoS blocks in the past X amount of time/blocks vs PoW blocks in the past X amount of time/blocks and skew each threads difficulty depending on how much either thread starts to outweight the other in found blocks. This way the chain would balance out the hybrid selection.

Thank you for pointing this out we never would have thought to do this otherwise, We'll include this difficulty skew in the release of PoS-v3 update that is coming as well and roll everything up into a nice package.

This way there'll definitely be a more even acceptance rate as right now the sheer amount of stakers are making it hard for miners to find PoW blocks despite both systems working smoothly at this point.

You kick major butt elbandi!  Grin



Edit:
@Everyone

Despite the issues that Espers has persevered through and still having small hiccups here and there as we move through the Alpha stage of development we think it would be nice to get more people involved.

What we mean by this is simply: We want more suggestions, requests, events, anything really from the community members.

Let's make Espers fun, not just a place where we all complain about what isn't done yet, things will move forward and progress will always be made as we've shown through numerous updates and continued support of this project.

What do you all think? What would be the best way to make Espers fun again in your eyes? We're open to suggestions.

Let's turn this thing around. For far too long we've all been focused on the negative, every project goes through trials and issues, let's not focus so much on that and look more towards what has already been accomplished and what we can accomplish further.
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Well, i went to something that actually has a future. The only thing this coin had up untill now (and i been here from the start) was the pretty good profit from mining. But that's gone now. I went from about 2.000.000 a day to what, 200.000 to 300.000? Yeah well, i will come back when (or should i say if?) ESP reaches 40 satoshi. Because that is what u need to get to to be in the other coins league, profit wise. And coins still not mature after 10 hours? Not even 1/3 far... So i need 30 hours now b4 my coins can be used? what's up with that?

EDIT: Judging from what miningalts show i will need to adjust that to maybe 0 to 10.000 esp a day. 3 blocks mined globally last 10 hours or so...

Perhaps we should leave the future to decide what is worth while and what is not. As many people have stated throughout history, "Only time will tell"

EDIT: Removed pointless snide remark





@CryptoCoderz  What's the invite link for Espers Slack channel?

Thanks Smiley

Shoot us your email through PM and we'll send you an invite, Slack is open to anyone who requests to be invited.




You mix pow and pos block time at diff calculation, again:

https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1141-L1160

so pos block _can_ increase the pow block difficulty....  Embarrassed


This time we just did it a different way, see we need to not care if the block is PoW or PoS when determining the block spacing, that way we get the true spacing time. When the system retargets it actually chooses which thread to target seperately as shown further down in the code.

Code:
   // Differentiate PoW/PoS prev block
    [b]const CBlockIndex* BlockVelocityType = GetLastBlockIndex(pindexLast, fProofOfStake);[/b]

[i]..............further down in the code..............[/i]

    TerminalFactor *= TerminalAverage;
    difficultyfactor = TerminalFactor;
    [b]bnOld.SetCompact(BlockVelocityType->nBits);[/b]
    bnNew = bnOld / difficultyfactor;
    bnNew *= 10000;

    if (bnNew > bnTerminalVelocity)
      bnNew = bnTerminalVelocity;

    // LogPrintf("Prior Terminal-Velocity: %08x  %s\n", BlockVelocityType->nBits, bnOld.ToString());
    // LogPrintf("New Terminal-Velocity:  %08x  %s\n", bnNew.GetCompact(), bnNew.ToString());
    return bnNew.GetCompact();

It perhaps isn't the traditional way but this way ensures that ACTUAL block rate is calculated as apposed to separate threads calculating their INDIVIDUAL spacing according to PoW or PoS blocktimes instead of looking at both. Do you kinda get what I'm talking about? I may not be explaining it very well I do apologize. I however really value your input! You're an awesome guy elbandi and you've helped us out a lot Smiley Also, I'll have to look into the statement further, we are humans after all and I can easily make a mistake. Thank you for pointing me to a potential problem.




dead?

I believe your concept of dead is flawed good sir.



You mix pow and pos block time at diff calculation, again:

https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1141-L1160

so pos block _can_ increase the pow block difficulty....  Embarrassed


dat fail relaunch pow after 2 months..  Cheesy
diff @620 when i tested 12 hours ago lol..

hmm, Diff is at 1.5 right now. Don't really know where your pulling your values from there bud.
Also PoW blocks are being found periodically as expected. PoW is working fine, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with a new things called a block explorer?



great pos is going again  Smiley

ferkin yobit:

I'm sorry to say but we've posted numerous time informing users to NEVER BUY FROM YOBIT they are on Espers v1 from 8 months ago and refuse to update, DO NOT buy from them, you are NOT buying Espers.

Please only buy Espers from Exchanges listed on the ANN's OP (Or the first post of this ANN)



it shocks me that people still bother with that exchange, saying that you can make some good trades there its just a shame that half the time you cant withdraw your profit and when you raise a ticket you'd may as well talk to a chimp. use novaexchange its listed on posw too, support theres pretty decent if a little slow sometimes.

yeah, yobit is total trash... I won't trade anything there...

I'm not saying the exchange is one way or the other, I'm just stating please do NOT buy ESP from there.




EDIT: Judging from what miningalts show i will need to adjust that to maybe 0 to 10.000 esp a day. 3 blocks mined globally last 10 hours or so...

The PoW spiked and then came back down, it was to be expected as at first all the blocks were too fast, then too slow, things had to level out. If you check again there are PoW blocks being found periodically now, not just 2 a day. This is day 2 now that we are on the new retarget.
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Trust me, if POW was even slighlty working i would have found something. NOTHING since block 376350 and i have 10500 kh/s on it, and if it is working and some people get esp it is not worth it anyway, i need about 2.000.000 a day to make more than my other coins. Stopping miner now and dumping what i have left while i still get something for it. Glad i sold my 100's of millions at +250 litoshi lol.

As stated before, LEAVE AND STAY THE HELL OUT OF THIS PROJECT!

No one is forcing you to be here.

PoW works perfectly fine, diff has changed for it it's just not the the thread that is finding the most blocks.
 But whatever, take your ignorance and leave


10500 kh/s and nothing?... i'm running 3000kh/s and i was getting a random block here and there for the past few days, it's ramping up now, I guess impulse trading is more your thing judging by the lack of patience but thats fine, As for dumping sure go ahead i'll scoop it up and make out like a bandit Smiley!  2 pow blocks found since 667350 which is better then before and difficulty is now 0.001351, go espers go!

Impulse trading? Is that buying more than a billion b4 the swap below 8 litoshi, getting more than a million a day from trading some days, then buying a couple 100 million more after the swap well below 80 litoshi and getting out above 250 (kept 10.000.000 just in case). If that is impulse trading yeah than that's what i do.

The dumbest statement I've read since I was spawned by a vagina. Do u reckon u can buy in after the swap ending and press another 100 million shits down ur throat, how naive are u to even think about that? What u don't know is that once swap is finished market will be delisted. I can't make it clearer for u, hoping u will mitigate the risks by not taking part in this scam.

First of all, i did the swap as supposed, secondly i bought that extra 100 millions after it and sold out with about 4 times profit. So not sure where u are getting here. Now there was only 1 good thing left here and that was the good mining profit. That is gone now so well, i made my profit. Oh and even though i lost all confidence in this project i still don't think it can be called a scam. A scam would be if the dev would have asked people for funds. This project did the opposite with serious giveaways.
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Trust me, if POW was even slighlty working i would have found something. NOTHING since block 376350 and i have 10500 kh/s on it, and if it is working and some people get esp it is not worth it anyway, i need about 2.000.000 a day to make more than my other coins. Stopping miner now and dumping what i have left while i still get something for it. Glad i sold my 100's of millions at +250 litoshi lol.

As stated before, LEAVE AND STAY THE HELL OUT OF THIS PROJECT!

No one is forcing you to be here.

PoW works perfectly fine, diff has changed for it it's just not the the thread that is finding the most blocks.
 But whatever, take your ignorance and leave


10500 kh/s and nothing?... i'm running 3000kh/s and i was getting a random block here and there for the past few days, it's ramping up now, I guess impulse trading is more your thing judging by the lack of patience but thats fine, As for dumping sure go ahead i'll scoop it up and make out like a bandit Smiley!  2 pow blocks found since 667350 which is better then before and difficulty is now 0.001351, go espers go!

Impulse trading? Is that buying more than a billion b4 the swap below 8 litoshi, getting more than a million a day from trading some days, then buying a couple 100 million more after the swap well below 80 litoshi and getting out above 250 (kept 10.000.000 just in case). If that is impulse trading yeah than that's what i do.

The dumbest statement I've read since I was spawned by a vagina. Do u reckon u can buy in after the swap ending and press another 100 million shits down ur throat, how naive are u to even think about that? What u don't know is that once swap is finished market will be delisted. I can't make it clearer for u, hoping u will mitigate the risks by not taking part in this scam.
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You mix pow and pos block time at diff calculation, again:

https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1141-L1160

so pos block _can_ increase the pow block difficulty....  Embarrassed


dat fail relaunch pow after 2 months..  Cheesy
diff @620 when i tested 12 hours ago lol..
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You mix pow and pos block time at diff calculation, again:

https://github.com/CryptoCoderz/Espers/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1141-L1160

so pos block _can_ increase the pow block difficulty....  Embarrassed
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@CryptoCoderz  What's the invite link for Espers Slack channel?

Thanks Smiley
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Yay, after few weeks staking Espers on PoSWallet works fine.
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Impulse trading? Is that buying more than a billion b4 the swap below 8 litoshi, getting more than a million a day from trading some days, then buying a couple 100 million more after the swap well below 80 litoshi and getting out above 250 (kept 10.000.000 just in case). If that is impulse trading yeah than that's what i do.
you're talking about time that is totally gone. no matter what you did before, your coins already swapped the hands, feels like weak hands become the property of strong Smiley

No, feels like reality catched up. ;-) Weak hands would be making a loss, wich i did not. ;-)
  anyway 5000 pow instaminer is a history today, we can see him crying & moaning . LTC buy side is getting harder, that is what we've got now
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Impulse trading? Is that buying more than a billion b4 the swap below 8 litoshi, getting more than a million a day from trading some days, then buying a couple 100 million more after the swap well below 80 litoshi and getting out above 250 (kept 10.000.000 just in case). If that is impulse trading yeah than that's what i do.
you're talking about time that is totally gone. no matter what you did before, your coins already swapped the hands, feels like weak hands become the property of strong Smiley

No, feels like reality catched up. ;-) Weak hands would be making a loss, wich i did not. ;-)
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Impulse trading? Is that buying more than a billion b4 the swap below 8 litoshi, getting more than a million a day from trading some days, then buying a couple 100 million more after the swap well below 80 litoshi and getting out above 250 (kept 10.000.000 just in case). If that is impulse trading yeah than that's what i do.
you're talking about time that is totally gone. no matter what you did before, your coins already swapped the hands, feels like weak hands become the property of strong Smiley
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Trust me, if POW was even slighlty working i would have found something. NOTHING since block 376350 and i have 10500 kh/s on it, and if it is working and some people get esp it is not worth it anyway, i need about 2.000.000 a day to make more than my other coins. Stopping miner now and dumping what i have left while i still get something for it. Glad i sold my 100's of millions at +250 litoshi lol.

As stated before, LEAVE AND STAY THE HELL OUT OF THIS PROJECT!

No one is forcing you to be here.

PoW works perfectly fine, diff has changed for it it's just not the the thread that is finding the most blocks.
 But whatever, take your ignorance and leave


10500 kh/s and nothing?... i'm running 3000kh/s and i was getting a random block here and there for the past few days, it's ramping up now, I guess impulse trading is more your thing judging by the lack of patience but thats fine, As for dumping sure go ahead i'll scoop it up and make out like a bandit Smiley!  2 pow blocks found since 667350 which is better then before and difficulty is now 0.001351, go espers go!

Impulse trading? Is that buying more than a billion b4 the swap below 8 litoshi, getting more than a million a day from trading some days, then buying a couple 100 million more after the swap well below 80 litoshi and getting out above 250 (kept 10.000.000 just in case). If that is impulse trading yeah than that's what i do.
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 180K staking at the moment.

Anybody contacted bittrex for listing, since we got the working wallet ?

Bittrex? Lol, get out the LTC market then. This will never get listed as long it is below 1 sat.

Indeed, maybe starting some real and big promotion in few weeks to get out of the LTC market.
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Anybody contacted bittrex for listing, since we got the working wallet ?

Bittrex? Lol, get out the LTC market then. This will never get listed as long it is below 1 sat.
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BTMEN

Hi, now you mined and stake correctly? because I Since yesterday at 23:30 not mined and staked nothing,

Yesterday we hadn't forked yet to VRX retarget system. Also staking really depends on how many coins you have.





@Everyone

New block explorer launched, thanks to thecryptochat.net!
http://espers.thecryptochat.net/

Already added to the OP, will be updating it more as well over the weekend.

Ok, thanks, Only have 11M Sad, but I buying... good job.

That should be plenty to stake, just lave your wallet online, you'll see some stakes roll in Smiley The difficulty targeted up really high because it was coming up from the floor so to speak.

Once some more blocks roll through it'll come back down and level out. You'll get stakes Smiley

Thanks CryptoCoderz, Wallet yobit is mantenaince  Angry, have a 16M there...

I'm sorry to say but we've posted numerous time informing users to NEVER BUY FROM YOBIT they are on Espers v1 from 8 months ago and refuse to update, DO NOT buy from them, you are NOT buying Espers.

Please only buy Espers from Exchanges listed on the ANN's OP (Or the first post of this ANN)



Staking works! Great job cryptocoderz! Feels good to be back.

Thanks bud, Good to be back as well Smiley

Oh my good jajaja, I already missed so much time in maintenance ... goodbye coins.... jojojo


PM us, We'll see what we can do to take care of you. We are not able to recover lost coins for users however there's usually something we can come up with regardless to ease the blow.





Something does not happen in solo, not a single ball is present

What do you mean? Could you be more specific?

Yeah didn't quite catch that either.

Thank you men!  Wink
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HMMM... diff rising even more for PoW, fudders care to chime in now? C'mon guys, where'd you all go?





Planning to use cpu for now to see how it goes and then i will move to gpu mining later. Grin

For CPU you might want to wait for the pool to come back online. However, you're more than welcome to solo mine via CPU as well in the meantime anyway.

Are you on Windows or Linux?

Windows

Head to the OP (first post of this ANN) and download the CPU windows miner, there'll be a link, after you've done so open your config file and copy down your rpcuser, and rpcpassword fields.

Then in the extracted miner folder edit the ".bat" that starts the miner and enter in:
Code:
cpuminer -a hmq1725 -o http://127.0.0.1:22442 -u usernamefromconfig -p passwordfromconfig

Save the changes and double click the ".bat" file and watch as your miner fires up and runs. Let us know if you have any other questions Smiley



Planning to use cpu for now to see how it goes and then i will move to gpu mining later. Grin

For CPU you might want to wait for the pool to come back online. However, you're more than welcome to solo mine via CPU as well in the meantime anyway.

Are you on Windows or Linux?
Do you plan to reopen the pool? I would have liked because the payouts were fair and I like the pool.

Absolutely, we were simply waiting for the diff to level out and to monitor VRX retarget system's status for a little while first, the pool is the next step.



Aaaaand POS is working! Congratulations Coderz!

Thank you Smiley Both threads are working quite nicely, very happy right now Smiley
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Well, i went to something that actually has a future. The only thing this coin had up untill now (and i been here from the start) was the pretty good profit from mining. But that's gone now. I went from about 2.000.000 a day to what, 200.000 to 300.000? Yeah well, i will come back when (or should i say if?) ESP reaches 40 satoshi. Because that is what u need to get to to be in the other coins league, profit wise. And coins still not mature after 10 hours? Not even 1/3 far... So i need 30 hours now b4 my coins can be used? what's up with that?

EDIT: Judging from what miningalts show i will need to adjust that to maybe 0 to 10.000 esp a day. 3 blocks mined globally last 10 hours or so...
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great pos is going again  Smiley

ferkin yobit:

I'm sorry to say but we've posted numerous time informing users to NEVER BUY FROM YOBIT they are on Espers v1 from 8 months ago and refuse to update, DO NOT buy from them, you are NOT buying Espers.

Please only buy Espers from Exchanges listed on the ANN's OP (Or the first post of this ANN)



it shocks me that people still bother with that exchange, saying that you can make some good trades there its just a shame that half the time you cant withdraw your profit and when you raise a ticket you'd may as well talk to a chimp. use novaexchange its listed on posw too, support theres pretty decent if a little slow sometimes.

yeah, yobit is total trash... I won't trade anything there...
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